Another need a new tv thread

[temery]

My tv pretty much died this morning. It's turned into a tv/strobe light.

I need to order a new one by tomorrow.

My needs have changed a bit - my eyesight has gotten worse, so bigger and better resolution is needed.

Im toying with the idea of a projector. I'm told they've gotten much better. Not entirely sold on the idea though.

Suggestions?

 

[HooperScooper]

If you can afford it, get a good 4K projector. What I found is that my 1080p is adequate, there are almost no sports events that are broadcast in 4K.

But won't there be a lot more in the not too distant future? I have a 77" Sony Bravia 4K and the only sports on 4K right now are the Red Sox and Bruins, but both only when they are at home, and some Fox sports (including some UConn games and NFL and college football). CBS, ESPN, and ABC haven't had 4K broadcasts yet as far as I know (I could be wrong here but can't remember any).

When I flip between the 4K broadcast and the regular HD there is a difference. The 4K is much crisper and detailed. Is it enough to get a 4K TV? I'd probably say no. But my wife spent a ridiculous amount of money renovating our family room and the only thing I cared about was the TV. So I said, to heck with it, I am spending a lot of money on the 1 thing I will care about in that room.

 

[HuskyHawk]

But won't there be a lot more in the not too distant future? I have a 77" Sony Bravia 4K and the only sports on 4K right now are the Red Sox and Bruins, but both only when they are at home, and some Fox sports (including some UConn games and NFL and college football). CBS, ESPN, and ABC haven't had 4K broadcasts yet as far as I know (I could be wrong here but can't remember any).

When I flip between the 4K broadcast and the regular HD there is a difference. The 4K is much crisper and detailed. Is it enough to get a 4K TV? I'd probably say no. But my wife spent a ridiculous amount of money renovating our family room and the only thing I cared about was the TV. So I said, to heck with it, I am spending a lot of money on the 1 thing I will care about in that room.

You probably can't even find anything but the cheapest TV that isn't 4K now. The 8K TVs are coming out. Projectors are behind panels, so a 4K projector like they suggested is still expensive.

I think Amazon football broadcasts are 4K, not sure.

 

[HooperScooper]

You probably can't even find anything but the cheapest TV that isn't 4K now. The 8K TVs are coming out. Projectors are behind panels, so a 4K projector like they suggested is still expensive.

I think Amazon football broadcasts are 4K, not sure.

I got mine a year ago and 4K TVs were definitely a lot more expensive. Have things moved that quickly? I figured they wouldn't until there was more programming in 4K and since a year ago there hasn't been more sports in 4K. Not sure about other programming.

Not sure about Amazon Prime football in 4K. It does look good but I don't get a notification that the game is in 4K like I do with the other channels (the box that comes up to change to the 4K station or dismiss the message and stay in regular HD). Looked it up and here's what it says:

No, Amazon Prime Video does not stream NFL games in 4K. Instead, Amazon Prime Video streams NFL games in 1080p Full HD with HDR (High Dynamic Range) and 60 frames per second (fps).

 

[UConniki]

That is crappy luck. I was simply saying that the Best Buy return rate being high is probably not because they break, but because people bought the cheapest TV and it didn't meet expectations. Best Buy has everything on max brightness and saturation because of the lights in the store. Can't trust what you see there.

The setting is called “ retail” and they all do it if the video department manager is on top of his game which most are because the sets sell themselves which is why you don’t ever buy a floor model because they’re on 90 hours a week with everything at max including brightness which is boosted to a higher level that isn’t available going through the normal picture settings.

 

[uconnfan68]

But won't there be a lot more in the not too distant future? I have a 77" Sony Bravia 4K and the only sports on 4K right now are the Red Sox and Bruins, but both only when they are at home, and some Fox sports (including some UConn games and NFL and college football). CBS, ESPN, and ABC haven't had 4K broadcasts yet as far as I know (I could be wrong here but can't remember any).

When I flip between the 4K broadcast and the regular HD there is a difference. The 4K is much crisper and detailed. Is it enough to get a 4K TV? I'd probably say no. But my wife spent a ridiculous amount of money renovating our family room and the only thing I cared about was the TV. So I said, to heck with it, I am spending a lot of money on the 1 thing I will care about in that room.

It takes a while to get up to speed with 4k. Cameras alone are in the $40k range (last I knew). And if you think buffering is an issue now...

 

[B1GEast]

Samsung upstairs Vizeo downstairs, love em both

Get as big as you can afford, but there's that old adage about your TV being bigger than your bookshelf.

 

[Scrutineer]

I didn't read all the posts so if this is a repeat please ignore it.

This past Spring I bought a 77 inch LG, model G3, which is their flagship model. It is outstanding as you should expect since they developed the OLED technology and license it to all the others or, as someone told me, they may even make all the screens and sell them to the others. This year's model is the G4.

They have smaller and larger versions too, so it's up to you to choose how big you want to go. We have it on a wall above a fireplace and that wall is 72 inches wide so the 77 inch (diagonal) fits with a couple inches on each side. My wife wanted to go with the 65 inch (or whatever it was) but agreed with the 77 and now really agrees with it after enjoying it these last 7 months.

The clincher for me was the sales guy said we've had people come back and lament not going to the larger size but NO ONE has ever come back and complained they wish they had bought the smaller one.

 

[M.S.G.]

7 TCLs in the house for at least the past 5 years, great product and price.

Only one had the picture crap out, so rare in my opinion at least.

 

[JMick]

I didn't read all the posts so if this is a repeat please ignore it.

This past Spring I bought a 77 inch LG, model G3, which is their flagship model. It is outstanding as you should expect since they developed the OLED technology and license it to all the others or, as someone told me, they may even make all the screens and sell them to the others. This year's model is the G4.

They have smaller and larger versions too, so it's up to you to choose how big you want to go. We have it on a wall above a fireplace and that wall is 72 inches wide so the 77 inch (diagonal) fits with a couple inches on each side. My wife wanted to go with the 65 inch (or whatever it was) but agreed with the 77 and now really agrees with it after enjoying it these last 7 months.

The clincher for me was the sales guy said we've had people come back and lament not going to the larger size but NO ONE has ever come back and complained they wish they had bought the smaller one.

It all depends on your viewing distance. Pixel density is a thing. It's not as big of a deal at 4k as it is 1080 since there are so many more pixels but when you start to get bigger screens and your viewing distance doesn't increase, the screen will not look as sharp. I got a 55" when I could have gotten a 65" for not much more money because of the pixel density.

 

[Scrutineer]

It all depends on your viewing distance. Pixel density is a thing. It's not as big of a deal at 4k as it is 1080 since there are so many more pixels but when you start to get bigger screens and your viewing distance doesn't increase, the screen will not look as sharp. I got a 55" when I could have gotten a 65" for not much more money because of the pixel density.

Ours is 4K and the picture is so dense with pixels some scenes look like 3D.
I spent a lot of time at Best Buy and Costco and there were so many great choices but the LG "G" series seemed the best and so far we've been really happy with the choice.

 

[3rdbass]

My tv pretty much died this morning. It's turned into a tv/strobe light.

I need to order a new one by tomorrow.

My needs have changed a bit - my eyesight has gotten worse, so bigger and better resolution is needed.

Im toying with the idea of a projector. I'm told they've gotten much better. Not entirely sold on the idea though.

Suggestions?

Get an LG OLED. They are best you can get.

 

[3rdbass]

LG C4 is on sale, I'll admit I wasn't as blown away by the C3 I bought last year as I was hoping coming from an older LED TV though.

Really? I love my LG C1 77 inch. You can't beat an LG for OLED. I do game on it some so that is where it really shines. It is great for watching sports too.

 

[GlastonTim]

I don’t like that I can see reflection of lamps and windows on lg screens. They need anti glare screens.

 

[sledog]

TCL is a mainland chinese company. Having some knowedge of the industry, I wouldn't buy one.

 

[NJHusky]

TCL is a mainland chinese company. Having some knowedge of the industry, I wouldn't buy one.

Care to expound….

 

[GlastonTim]

TCL is a mainland chinese company. Having some knowedge of the industry, I wouldn't buy one.

They are a Chinese company but can be manufactured in multiple other countries as well.

 

[gampelcrazies]

OLED or bust

 

[Icehawk]

Really? I love my LG C1 77 inch. You can't beat an LG for OLED. I do game on it some so that is where it really shines. It is great for watching sports too.

Yeah, I was surprised to be honest. It's a solid TV, and I'm considering a C4 42" for my desktop still, but I expected a bigger uplift in picture quality. I think a lot of it has to do with the fact that most media is not of the greatest quality - even the 4k stuff I'm watching is off a stream or compressed HEVC file 99% of the time.

 

[JMick]

Yeah, I was surprised to be honest. It's a solid TV, and I'm considering a C4 42" for my desktop still, but I expected a bigger uplift in picture quality. I think a lot of it has to do with the fact that most media is not of the greatest quality - even the 4k stuff I'm watching is off a stream or compressed HEVC file 99% of the time.

I got a 3440x1440 ultra wide for my desktop instead of a 4k monitor. Best decision ever. The Odyssey G85SB is on sale right now for $650 which is a bargain.

 

[Da_Aisijimo_Gou]

TCL is a mainland chinese company. Having some knowedge of the industry, I wouldn't buy one.

Mainland Chinese-domiciled company, albeit increasingly manufacturing or minimally assembling in Vietnam for cost savings and likely to skirt western sanctions. Related TCL Vietnam article (today Xinhua)

Similar to other companies limiting US and EU sanctions impacts, watch TCL and others increased presence respectively in Mexico and Hungary, Slovakia, etc.

Without knowing Jack sh|t regarding electronics manufacturing, purely anecdotal luck perhaps yet we’ve owned TCLs running strong for over a decade in Asia. My father in law user tests one probably 16 hours a day. NFW he’s careful given he seems to break most electronics sooner than their expected lifespans.

Similarly here in the States, we’ve had a few LVL 4K TVs for 3-8 years. We’re not laser-focused on absolute perfect, frequently updated TVs with all of the bells and whistles, clarity, massive size, etc, and we likely don’t watch as much TV as some people, but guess we’ve lucked out. If one dies, we’ll likely consider buying another.

 

[Icehawk]

I got a 3440x1440 ultra wide for my desktop instead of a 4k monitor. Best decision ever. The Odyssey G85SB is on sale right now for $650 which is a bargain.

Not a fan of ultrawides or curved screens myself, for my use (gaming, video) I prefer a standard screen.

For some reason none of the premium 42” monitors have been updated in two cycles. The Asus or Acer panel (I forget which) is still using a LG C2 panel I need to see if the C4 corrected some issues folks reported when used as a monitor, plus I have seen evidence that they are/were still sensitive to burn-in on that gen when compared to LCDs. No rush, the 32” panel I use as a primary screen isn’t small.