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John said:
Report Puts Cost Of Dunkin' Donuts Park At $71.7 Million

While city officials pegged contruction of Dunkin' Donuts Park at $63 million, the cost of design work, land acquisition and other expenses have pushed the project's overall price tag to $71.7 million, according to a report prepared by city auditors.

Auditors reviewed all costs associated with the stadium, as well as the larger Downtown North development around it, at the request of "some concerned Connecticut citizens," their report states. They estimated the city's total investment in Downtown North to be $102.5 million.
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For that price we should be able to get a AAA team in here. Was that ever considered? I know the Mets aren't happy with the distance between NY and their AAA team(Las Vegas).
 
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Architect Details Numerous Deficiencies At Dunkin' Donuts Park In Hartford

A report from the Dunkin' Donuts Park architect paints a bleak picture of the workmanship and attention to detail at the stalled stadium project, documenting numerous construction defects that would need to be repaired once work resumes.

The 344-page construction status report, compiled by Jonathan O'Neil Cole of Kansas City-based Pendulum, found problems with many elements and areas of the publicly financed minor league baseball stadium, now projected to cost more than $71 million.

The report, which the Courant obtained through a Freedom Of Information Act request, details exposed rusting rebar, cracking stairs, honeycombing and chipping concrete, improperly poured concourse slabs that invite pooling water, and clogged and improperly installed drains.

The report notes "cracks at both dugout roofs (underside fascia and above roof)" that "when exposed to freezing and thawing conditions will expand and move."

Work has been idle at the ballpark since June, when the city fired the developers. Cole was rehired as a first step to restarting construction.

The architect found areas where water is infiltrating the structure, causing buckling and bowing wall panels, stained and failing ceiling panels and mold spreading along lower walls.

The report detailed multiple instances of doors being much smaller than required to match openings, which resulted in large amounts of sealant being used to close gaps, electrical outlets installed in the wrong places and in contrast to the designed drawings, improperly installed sprinklers, cable trays that interfere with signage, and gaps where walls and other structural elements meet throughout the ballpark.

In one instance, the report noted "daylight at intersection of exposed joints not installed to manufacturers specifications. Typical throughout project."

The report, dated Sept. 5, found repeated instances of "daylight" — around doors in premium suites, around ventilation and exhaust ducts, in the roof above the fireplace and sports bar, and in one case a gap in a men's room floor that allows one to see into the floor below.

The document also identifies errors in workmanship in the premium suites, including improperly installed tile, doors, electrical outlets and counter tops.

The report also included drawings that showed where the work was suppose to be done but wasn't.

The report does not address the cost or scope of the work that needs to be done to finish the ballpark.

A murder, mayhem and gunfire report will follow shortly.
 
John said:
Architect Details Numerous Deficiencies At Dunkin' Donuts Park In Hartford

A report from the Dunkin' Donuts Park architect paints a bleak picture of the workmanship and attention to detail at the stalled stadium project, documenting numerous construction defects that would need to be repaired once work resumes.

The 344-page construction status report, compiled by Jonathan O'Neil Cole of Kansas City-based Pendulum, found problems with many elements and areas of the publicly financed minor league baseball stadium, now projected to cost more than $71 million.

The report, which the Courant obtained through a Freedom Of Information Act request, details exposed rusting rebar, cracking stairs, honeycombing and chipping concrete, improperly poured concourse slabs that invite pooling water, and clogged and improperly installed drains.

The report notes "cracks at both dugout roofs (underside fascia and above roof)" that "when exposed to freezing and thawing conditions will expand and move."

Work has been idle at the ballpark since June, when the city fired the developers. Cole was rehired as a first step to restarting construction.

The architect found areas where water is infiltrating the structure, causing buckling and bowing wall panels, stained and failing ceiling panels and mold spreading along lower walls.

The report detailed multiple instances of doors being much smaller than required to match openings, which resulted in large amounts of sealant being used to close gaps, electrical outlets installed in the wrong places and in contrast to the designed drawings, improperly installed sprinklers, cable trays that interfere with signage, and gaps where walls and other structural elements meet throughout the ballpark.

In one instance, the report noted "daylight at intersection of exposed joints not installed to manufacturers specifications. Typical throughout project."

The report, dated Sept. 5, found repeated instances of "daylight" — around doors in premium suites, around ventilation and exhaust ducts, in the roof above the fireplace and sports bar, and in one case a gap in a men's room floor that allows one to see into the floor below.

The document also identifies errors in workmanship in the premium suites, including improperly installed tile, doors, electrical outlets and counter tops.

The report also included drawings that showed where the work was suppose to be done but wasn't.

The report does not address the cost or scope of the work that needs to be done to finish the ballpark.

A murder, mayhem and gunfire report will follow shortly.
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Sounds like they took the old New Haven Coliseum and moved it to Hartford.
 
John said:
Architect Details Numerous Deficiencies At Dunkin' Donuts Park In Hartford

A report from the Dunkin' Donuts Park architect paints a bleak picture of the workmanship and attention to detail at the stalled stadium project, documenting numerous construction defects that would need to be repaired once work resumes.

The 344-page construction status report, compiled by Jonathan O'Neil Cole of Kansas City-based Pendulum, found problems with many elements and areas of the publicly financed minor league baseball stadium, now projected to cost more than $71 million.

The report, which the Courant obtained through a Freedom Of Information Act request, details exposed rusting rebar, cracking stairs, honeycombing and chipping concrete, improperly poured concourse slabs that invite pooling water, and clogged and improperly installed drains.

The report notes "cracks at both dugout roofs (underside fascia and above roof)" that "when exposed to freezing and thawing conditions will expand and move."

Work has been idle at the ballpark since June, when the city fired the developers. Cole was rehired as a first step to restarting construction.

The architect found areas where water is infiltrating the structure, causing buckling and bowing wall panels, stained and failing ceiling panels and mold spreading along lower walls.

The report detailed multiple instances of doors being much smaller than required to match openings, which resulted in large amounts of sealant being used to close gaps, electrical outlets installed in the wrong places and in contrast to the designed drawings, improperly installed sprinklers, cable trays that interfere with signage, and gaps where walls and other structural elements meet throughout the ballpark.

In one instance, the report noted "daylight at intersection of exposed joints not installed to manufacturers specifications. Typical throughout project."

The report, dated Sept. 5, found repeated instances of "daylight" — around doors in premium suites, around ventilation and exhaust ducts, in the roof above the fireplace and sports bar, and in one case a gap in a men's room floor that allows one to see into the floor below.

The document also identifies errors in workmanship in the premium suites, including improperly installed tile, doors, electrical outlets and counter tops.

The report also included drawings that showed where the work was suppose to be done but wasn't.

The report does not address the cost or scope of the work that needs to be done to finish the ballpark.

A murder, mayhem and gunfire report will follow shortly.
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I almost cant even poke fun anymore. Its like making fun of the handicapped. Sad.
 
The architectural firm's recent report suggests construction standards consistent with a few too many high end buildings in China. Well done Hartford!
 
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Crimeny what a [excrement] show.
 
Da_Aisijimo_Gou said:
The architectural firm's recent report suggests construction standards consistent with a few too many high end buildings in China. Well done Hartford!
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Biggest difference is that the Chinese would have had this thing up in under a week. And under budget.
 
Holy crap, they just did a piece on this on the news, highlighting many of the deficiencies and screw-ups identified in the architect's report. The developer was even further over its head than I had appreciated. Looks like they had no idea what they were doing.
 
intlzncster said:
Biggest difference is that the Chinese would have had this thing up in under a week. And under budget.
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76 serfs would have died during the build and maybe just thrown in the River as that would be a quick and timely disposal.
 
Deepster said:
When is opening day!?
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You missed it in Norwich??

Norwich is a cool town. And how come I am the only person who mentioned the New Britain Bees season so far? Season's almost over.
 
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Butch said:
You missed it in Norwich??

Norwich is a cool town. And how come I am the only person who mentioned the New Britain Bees season so far? Season's almost over.
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Bees: We went, it was fun. Prices seemed cheaper than the Rock Cats days, so ate and drank like Kings of Yore. Good exciting game too.
 
John said:
Bees: We went, it was fun. Prices seemed cheaper than the Rock Cats days, so ate and drank like Kings of Yore. Good exciting game too.
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also should have mentioned - hot mayor was there that night. We didn't hook up, the time wasn't right.
 
I just talked with a guy who was on the project and he said theyd be lucky to play next year even if they started up construction tomorrow. The stories I got were amazing. From the union demanding cold water being placed every 50' and a tender to replace the jugs as they emptied to pouring concrete only to cut it up because they hadn't installed any underground plumbing or floor drains yet. And the union will continue to argue that their labor is soo much better than open shop labor so they can somehow justify the ridiculous wage rates. This thing goes private and its costs half as much and they could have paid the overtime to get it finished.
 
UC313 said:
I just talked with a guy who was on the project and he said theyd be lucky to play next year even if they started up construction tomorrow. The stories I got were amazing. From the union demanding cold water being placed every 50' and a tender to replace the jugs as they emptied to pouring concrete only to cut it up because they hadn't installed any underground plumbing or floor drains yet. And the union will continue to argue that their labor is soo much better than open shop labor so they can somehow justify the ridiculous wage rates. This thing goes private and its costs half as much and they could have paid the overtime to get it finished.
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Yeah its the unions fault.
 
intlzncster said:
Biggest difference is that the Chinese would have had this thing up in under a week. And under budget.
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Yup. The Chinese would have had it up with hidden mikes embedded around the stadium.
 
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I'm far from blaming the union and didn't mean to come across that way but some tactics don't help the efficiency of a project. If you need to double time a project the only way its going to happen is with every sub working together toward common goal. Once subs start pooching other subs, its over and its never coming back. Imagine being the plumber and watching the concrete guy pouring a slab over an area that's supposed to have pipe underneath it. Or being the concrete guy 2 months behind schedule because the plumber couldn't keep up and lay pipe fast enough.
 
For some reason the "multiple instances of doors being much smaller than required to match openings" is the one that jumped out at me as tough to pin on anyone but the developer.
 
8893 said:
For some reason the "multiple instances of doors being much smaller than required to match openings" is the one that jumped out at me as tough to pin on anyone but the developer.
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This strikes me as one of those big projects where eventually they'll say it's finished, but for years things will be coming to light that need to be replaced/repaired/redone/etc.
 
UC313 said:
I'm far from blaming the union and didn't mean to come across that way but some tactics don't help the efficiency of a project. If you need to double time a project the only way its going to happen is with every sub working together toward common goal. Once subs start pooching other subs, its over and its never coming back. Imagine being the plumber and watching the concrete guy pouring a slab over an area that's supposed to have pipe underneath it. Or being the concrete guy 2 months behind schedule because the plumber couldn't keep up and lay pipe fast enough.
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That's not a worker problem. It's a construction manager problem. Worker shows up and is told, "Here is what you are doing today."

A crew that has been together a long time will pick up on snafus like those mentioned, but this isn't a union problem. This is a connected guy getting in over his head because there was money to be had problem.

The buck stops with Centerplan. No one else. Ball parks are pretty easy to build comparatively speaking. It's not like there was a dome. Access was pretty easy, and he had plenty of room.

It sounds like he hired cheap contractor's and cut corners.
 
UC313 said:
I just talked with a guy who was on the project and he said theyd be lucky to play next year even if they started up construction tomorrow. The stories I got were amazing. From the union demanding cold water being placed every 50' and a tender to replace the jugs as they emptied to pouring concrete only to cut it up because they hadn't installed any underground plumbing or floor drains yet. And the union will continue to argue that their labor is soo much better than open shop labor so they can somehow justify the ridiculous wage rates. This thing goes private and its costs half as much and they could have paid the overtime to get it finished.
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If that's the case, the team owner has already stated they'd look for another home.

When do they break ground on the Hard Rock?
 
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