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Andre Jackson is Staying in the Draft

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I disagreed with your original point, that GM's are reluctant make 1st round picks that need development, because it happens multiple times every draft. Your counter was basically "he needs even more development than most". Which I thought was laugh out loud funny. Few players hit the league fully formed, I don't see why you think AK would be some anomaly. The speed of the pro game will come to him quicker than most, he has the vision, all he needs is a better shot. And I think he can help a team while he gets one. You don't, fine.

You are coming at this from a perspective of complete ignorance and I am coming with an autistic compulsion to read every bit of pre draft content. Sometimes I forget who I am talking to because I mostly try to respond to 429, Auror and that ilk. All good.
 
You are coming at this from a perspective of complete ignorance and I am coming with an autistic compulsion to read every bit of pre draft content. Sometimes I forget who I am talking to because I mostly try to respond to 429, Auror and that ilk. All good.
Nice insult. I showed my work. Sounds like you are coming at it from a perspective of information overload and content to throw shade, drop names and call it analysis.
 
Even if he doesn't go first round, he'll find a way to make an impact that can't be ignored and make a roster.

I'm kind of chuckling at the universal praise AJax is getting here. I've been in the chat room with a bunch of y'all during the past three years and remember all the invectives sent his way, even this year.

He's been a joy to watch. Godspeed, young man.
Mea culpa. But I don't think thats unusual since his game is so different. He took a while to get used to and to be honest, he did get better as the year went on. You have to watch him over time and you start to notice the huge impact he has on almost every play.
He's not gonna give you 20 points a game, but hes a rare athlete that can control everything without scoring any points.
 
Consider that Andre needs more development than most. Vecenie and Spinella made this point on some Game Theory podcast and I thought it made sense. They likened his development trajectory to a guy like Gary Payton III. His shot needs to be completely rebuilt and he probably isn’t playable until it is at least meh and that is different than “raw.”
It is true. For example, he needs more development than Newton, who is pretty much a finished product. In the lottery they look for high ceilings and floors. Later they tend to take two kinds of players (a) super high ceiling projects like Andre that might be a bust and (b) guys who simply produce at a high level but you don't think can be stars.

It's fascinating that we have 3 guys in the draft and one of each type. I think he made the right decision. He's trading on that upside and if he came back it's possible the league would decide that he's closer to a finished product and doesn't have much upside.
 
Nice insult. I showed my work. Sounds like you are coming at it from a perspective of information overload and content to throw shade, drop names and call it analysis.

You should talk hoops with @Fishy
 
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Teams who pass on Ajax will be crying when he posterizes them. He’s a winner who will thrive in his environment hopefully not charlotte. He is going to make opposing fan bases cry like a baby the real gm boards will be a sight to see.
 
I would LOVE Andre at #35, as a Celtics fan. That would make up for recent events.
Looking for AJ to find a place to develop at next level.. No particular team preference.. But of the teams mentioned by Woj that he worked out for.. The one team mentioned with the most draft capital is Indiana.. Picks 7/26/29/32/55.. Interestingly enough-- They just hired a special consultant to their front office and coaching staff that knows a little bit about shooting--Larry Bird.. Think LB would appreciate AJ's unique skills and assets.. Not mentioned as a team that looked at him in a workout but has draft capital.. Charlotte.. Picks 2/27/34/39/41..

Not an indication of who will eventually select him --nor the best roster for him to be on--but strictly about who has draft capital this particular year.. FWIW..Utah with picks 9/16/28..
 
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Nearly a top 50 recruit and maybe the best raw athlete of his class.

Injured for part of his freshman year, took a while to get going but eventually became part of the bench rotation.

Started sophomore year but again clearly behind some key guys, and was still learning to refine his game.

Team captain junior year, came out with energy and passion and a love for the game. Gave 100% on both ends of the floor. Had some glaring weaknesses and became nearly unplayable as other teams schemed against him. But he bought in to what his coach was telling him, found ways to impact the game, and broke out to be a leader of a championship run.

From unplayable, to NCAA champion, to NBA draft pick all within a 5-6 month span. Andre Jackson is the ultimate case study on how to maximize your opportunities by buying into your team and giving it everything you have
Amen. And may he continue to astonish everyone for years to come with his raw athleticism, skills and as mentioned his total dedication to his team with everything he has. A very very special young man.
 
It's all been said about Andre by now, but man will I miss watching him. He just kept getting better, especially as a facilitator. The way he could take the ball down the floor at light speed and have the vision and anticipation to find the right teammate in the right spot, with the confidence to make some brilliant, creative, entertaining passes. Incredibly unselfish. He's the kind of player that can't be your first option on offense, but if you surround him with first options he'll make everyone around him better.

Question: if you put his all-time highlights reel against any other Husky's all-time highlights reel... does anyone top Jackson?
 
Consider that Andre needs more development than most. Vecenie and Spinella made this point on some Game Theory podcast and I thought it made sense. They likened his development trajectory to a guy like Gary Payton III. His shot needs to be completely rebuilt and he probably isn’t playable until it is at least meh and that is different than “raw.”
You cannot teach size or athleticism. Period. Remember Chris Wilcox with Maryland. Just a defensive leaper. Dre has a handle and elite level vision. I could see them focusing a little less on 3 pt shooting and more on ball handling to run him as a big guard.
 
You cannot teach size or athleticism. Period. Remember Chris Wilcox with Maryland. Just a defensive leaper. Dre has a handle and elite level vision. I could see them focusing a little less on 3 pt shooting and more on ball handling to run him as a big guard.
Who? Enough said. But, seriously, I feel like there is a good chance that this doesn't end well for him, depending on his goals. I feel like, with NIL money in the picture, that he could have stayed one more year and worked on his shot. Then I think he has a chance to stick in the NBA long term. Having said that, IF he goes in the first round, I think he will be ok. If he drops to the second round, I don't think it will be long before he is playing overseas.
 
Going to miss that lightning fast push up the court off a defensive rebound. Good luck in the future, Dre.
Denver has kind of reinvented the push at the NBA level. These things go in cycles and the push style fast break may be coming back.
 
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Great opportunity for him and wish him the best, but….

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It's all been said about Andre by now, but man will I miss watching him. He just kept getting better, especially as a facilitator. The way he could take the ball down the floor at light speed and have the vision and anticipation to find the right teammate in the right spot, with the confidence to make some brilliant, creative, entertaining passes. Incredibly unselfish. He's the kind of player that can't be your first option on offense, but if you surround him with first options he'll make everyone around him better.

Question: if you put his all-time highlights reel against any other Husky's all-time highlights reel... does anyone top Jackso
It's all been said about Andre by now, but man will I miss watching him. He just kept getting better, especially as a facilitator. The way he could take the ball down the floor at light speed and have the vision and anticipation to find the right teammate in the right spot, with the confidence to make some brilliant, creative, entertaining passes. Incredibly unselfish. He's the kind of player that can't be your first option on offense, but if you surround him with first options he'll make everyone around him better.

Question: if you put his all-time highlights reel against any other Husky's all-time highlights reel... does anyone top Jackson?
That play against Georgetown where he inbounded, received the ball near half court and created a one man fast break still blows my mind. I’ve never seen something that crazy. Guy just out hustled everyone and created something out of nothing.
 
Where ever he lands he will be the most popular guy on the team, create a better atmosphere, and will bring that team together. He'll evolve as the next Joker.
 
Where ever he lands he will be the most popular guy on the team, create a better atmosphere, and will bring that team together. He'll evolve as the next Joker.
There's a decent chance Andre won't become the best player in the NBA and an all-time NBA great.

Love the optimism though!
 
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He will go in the first round and Hawkins will go higher than expected. I really thinks if he was a no doubt 2nd round this year he comes back. Because barring a career ending injury there is no way someone with his skills is not going to enter the draft and not be chosen in the first two rounds. So there would be minimal risk. He could fall out of the first round but no way he was going undrafted in 24. Now I am hoping everyone is wrong and someone takes Sanogo in rd 2.
 
There's a decent chance Andre won't become the best player in the NBA and an all-time NBA great.

Love the optimism though!
But there is a better than not chance that Hawk will!
 
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