And the Celtics go kaboom...

[BoatShow]

Does anyone remember when Rondo had that fight or whatever with Humphries and Wallace? I mean, maybe it doesn't matter but I don't think they plan on keeping Rondo.

Also- Olynyk? WTF???

 

[intlzncster]

I think saying no way is a little overconfident. Could he make it through? Absolutely (and I think he probably will). That doesn't change the fact that even when it's the prudent thing to do, people always seem to lose patience in these situations. There is always the chance that they don't start winning fast enough.

True enough, but fans, especially core Celtics fans, I think understand that this could take 5+ years to bear fruit. I mean, this is a complete dismantling.

 

[WhereistheDove?]

True enough, but fans, especially core Celtics fans, I think understand that this could take 5+ years to bear fruit. I mean, this is a complete dismantling.

True enough, but core fans are rarely the ones talking the loudest. Normally those people are the morons.

 

[mauconnfan]

Had to happen. As a C's fan it's time.......give Danny 3-4 years they'll be contending again and the Heat will be getting older.....timing is everything.

Not sure why everyone seems down on Olynyk......I think he's going to be a nice player!!

 

[RS9999X]

Rondos tradeable, MR. Kardasian is in his last year, and Wallace will get dumped after 2 years. Next year they take a dive. Possibly the year after as they move all the journeymen sideways and build from there with Rondo, Bass, Lee, Green, Sullinger, and Olynko. The Xavier kid will fit nicely with Bradley. That's the team. 8 likely keepers in 3 years plus 2014/15 Rookies and Vet exceptions. Under the cap and land the best FA available after two years

 

[intlzncster]

Had to happen. As a C's fan it's time.......give Danny 3-4 years they'll be contending again and the Heat will be getting older.....timing is everything.

Not sure why everyone seems down on Olynyk......I think he's going to be a nice player!!

As long as we don't get Duncan'ed again!

I'd like to see Olynyk develop a little on the defensive end, before I get too excited about his prospects.

 

[intlzncster]

Rondos tradeable, MR. Kardasian is in his last year, and Wallace will get dumped after 2 years. Next year they take a dive. Possibly the year after as they move all the journeymen sideways and build from there with Rondo, Bass, Lee, Green, Sullinger, and Olynko. The Xavier kid will fit nicely with Bradley. That's the team. 8 likely keepers in 3 years plus 2014/15 Rookies and Vet exceptions. Under the cap and land the best FA available after two years

Honestly, that's a nice core if you keep it together. Will lose a lot of games without some true front court stars, but if they can get good position in the draft, the Celts could become a significant, and importantly, young contender.

If things go right in the Draft, this could be Danny's finest work. Time will tell.

I have to say, I love Danny's willingness to buck convention and take risks. That is not something you see in many NBA GMs, who are mostly looking not to get fired. It's really fun to see him operate.

 

[Scoe]

Not a great move for the Celtics but the only move, as for the Nets it looks great on paper but how well will they defend remember the moves the Lakers made last year expecting Dwight Howard to solve all their defensive flaws, will they be expecting a 37 year old KG to solve their defensive flaws?

Doc has approached Phil Jackson status not in rings but in terms of leaving a franchise when its time to get out.

 

[intlzncster]

Not a great move for the Celtics but the only move, as for the Nets it looks great on paper but how well will they defend remember the moves the Lakers made last year expecting Dwight Howard to solve all their defensive flaws, will they be expecting a 37 year old KG to solve their defensive flaws?

How so? What were they going to do with KG and Pierce for the next couple of years. Might as well get rid of them while there's a buyer, and load up on draft picks. I don't see how this is bad.

 

[Scoe]

How so? What were they going to do with KG and Pierce for the next couple of years. Might as well get rid of them while there's a buyer, and load up on draft picks. I don't see how this is bad.

Did I say its bad? I just said its the only move, it was a no brainer. A great move would not be getting back Gerald Wallace and his contract do you think the Celtics wanted to get him in the trade, probably not but they didnt have a choice in order to matchup salary, it was the only move.

 

[intlzncster]

Did I say its bad? I just said its the only move, it was a no brainer. A great move would not be getting back Gerald Wallace and his contract do you think the Celtics wanted to get him in the trade, probably not but they didnt have a choice in order to matchup salary, it was the only move.

Probably just the internet but, on first read, it sounded like you were negative on the deal.

 

[BoatShow]

Had to happen. As a C's fan it's time.......give Danny 3-4 years they'll be contending again and the Heat will be getting older.....timing is everything.

Not sure why everyone seems down on Olynyk......I think he's going to be a nice player!!

I can't help but see a long haired big man from Gonzaga and not think Adam Morrison which I know is unfair. I watched a fair number of Gonzaga games this year and he hasn't a nice college game but just doesn't look like a pro.

 

[intlzncster]

I can't help but see a long haired big man from Gonzaga and not think Adam Morrison which I know is unfair. I watched a fair number of Gonzaga games this year and he hasn't a nice college game but just doesn't look like a pro.

But he didn't cry in his final college game, did he? Never draft a guy that cries. That's pretty important.

 

[champs99and04]

You assume that KG would have waived his no-trade clause to go anywhere. And that Ainge didn't kick the tires on that. Once you can identify a solid lead that Ainge should have but didn't chase down, then I'll listen to complaints about how Ainge should have gotten more. Houston and Dallas are both trying to save cap space to sign Howard, by the way. No room for these guys. Parsons is making like a million a year. Also, Ainge had to move quickly because he had only a short window to trigger Pierce's contract.

Also, while there's no guarantee on the 2018 draft, I would tend to think the Nets won't be very good. They're probably going to have to blow up that roster at some point, giving away good assets to rid themselves of bad ones. That could happen by 2016 or 2017 (when the C's can swap picks with NJ) as well. Potentially, the Celts could get 2 or 3 high lottery picks out of this.

You're right, there were definitely factors out of Boston's control that ultimately led to them settling for less in a trade like this, I just think if I'm giving up Garnett and Pierce - two players who are still extremely good - I want at least one legitimate piece back in return that isn't a draft pick. You or I don't know whether one was available, but in a league of 29 other teams and a lot of nice young talent, I have a hard time believing Boston couldn't find a more viable trading partner.

The question now becomes, does Boston hold on to Rondo? He's still young and under a more than reasonable contract for two more years, so it will be interesting to see if Boston attempts to build around him going forward or tank completely and truly blow the whole thing up. Obviously there is no rush with the Rondo injury, but I'd imagine there would be plenty of suitors if the Celtics did decide to move him.

 

[RS9999X]

Rondo will call the shots. If healthy in Feb he can choose an extension or trade and veto any deal.