I don't have a goal, but I have a point. There is a difference. My point is uconn is not going anywhere, they are still going to be a top 10 program no matter what conference they are in. My other point is that if you think conference affiliation dictates your success you are wrong.The anomaly is butler.I concede that. But whether or not that is sustainable remains to be seen. What confuses me most is what is your goal here? Do you want UConn to become a glorified mid major? Because that is all you mention here. One off stories with no substance. Get real buddy. To remain elite, to continue to recruit, to continue the pedigree of sending kids to the NBA, to continue to make money, to continue to have national exposure, etc you have to be in a power conference. The teams you mentioned above have none of that. WAKE UP. Two years ago, the question on this board was whether or not we are blue blood. Now you are comparing us to mid-majors and we are supposed to get excited. The only person I know who this excites is Ed Cooley. As long as UConn remains in this s&*t storm, he will be able to compete for recruits!
Conference affiliation means something to only those who belong. I don't see Gonzage looking to flee, I don't see UNLV bailing out and these are just a few of national programs - LIKE UCONN - who could go independant and be successful. UCONN has a brand it has a history and it has/had JC. Nothing can take that away and kids coming out of high school know that KO and JC can point them to the NBA if the kid works hard or at least earn themselves a ton of money in Europe.There are many times I get lost in your babble. One thing I can't lose sight of is how you think a conference tournament in a 9000 seat gym with just benches is fine for UConn. It is both pathetic and an absolute joke that most outside of UConn laugh hard at.
We need to push this through. The support at least here seems to be right on. Plus, I'll be able to go for a tournament game instead of a Penn game.The Palestra is the best venue I have ever been to -- hands down. Seats 8,722 and every seat is a good one. Amazing history and would be part of the story for the conference tournament. Temple is a big / very big draw in Philly and would drive ticket demand, and people in the city appreciate the Palestra enough that it would itself drive sales regardless of who is playing. I really like this idea, at least at first.
I guess we could rebuild the Field House...Twitter rumor that it's being explored as tourney host.
Well unless you want TV money, then they might...just a bit.Actually you could not be more wrong. You clearly are blind to what is going on nationally in college basketball. What conference you are in does not mean crap. What matters is who is running the program. Gonzaga is a 1 seed. VCU is going to final fours, butler and Memphis have played in 3 of the last 5 title games.
Schools like New Mexico and crieghton are winning more in the tournament then UCLA.
These schools have had great coaching and great support of the program. It has nothing to do with conference.if it did DePaul wouldn't be a joke considering they play in the big east and are in Chicago. Same for St. John's.
Wake up buddy conferences mattered in the 80s they don't now
Hawly. You don't want the camera's showing empty seats.I guess we could rebuild the Field House...
Actually you could not be more wrong. You clearly are blind to what is going on nationally in college basketball. What conference you are in does not mean crap. What matters is who is running the program. Gonzaga is a 1 seed. VCU is going to final fours, butler and Memphis have played in 3 of the last 5 title games.
Schools like New Mexico and crieghton are winning more in the tournament then UCLA.
These schools have had great coaching and great support of the program. It has nothing to do with conference.if it did DePaul wouldn't be a joke considering they play in the big east and are in Chicago. Same for St. John's.
Wake up buddy conferences mattered in the 80s they don't now
Neither has New Mexico, shhhI was with you until you wrote Creighton. Creighton has done nothing in the tournament since 1975.
Neither has New Mexico, shhh
Stupid.
They should play it at the FedEx Forum in Memphis. State of the art NBA arena. And Memphis fans would probably fill it up on their own. It's the easy choice. So of course they pick something else.
I do not see any reason this tournament should be at the Palestra. Temple would bring fans....and? I think UConn would bring the same amount of fans to Philly for this tournament as we would to Memphis which is not much.
Totally agree with this. I'm not going to Memphis, I might go to the tournament in Philly.I'd definitely go for the entire tourney. Would enjoy going. Would I go to Memphis? No.
yet schools like syracuse, louisville, kentucky, indiana, duke, unc, etc.....fill up nba arenas anywhere in the country.I'd definitely go for the entire tourney. Would enjoy going. Would I go to Memphis? No.
yet schools like syracuse, louisville, kentucky, indiana, duke, unc, etc.....fill up nba arenas anywhere in the country.
xmas tourneys and conference tourneys are two different beasts. those schools alone would fill the palestra in support of their teams.??? They don't. I've been to plenty of XMas tourney games with those teams (except Indiana).
and your point is.....um, yeah....in the 1980s! I find your parallel between where UConn and college basketball is today vs. the 1908s equally disturbing. But it does provide some clarity...................stop living in the past and think about the future. Of which, while in the America 12, UConn has none.
xmas tourneys and conference tourneys are two different beasts. those schools alone would fill the palestra in support of their teams.
wtf are you talking about? uconn went from playing in msg to talks of the palestra. uconn went from playing top notch competition to competing against smu and houston. uconn is getting paid pennies for tv rights when others are earning 20mil plus. that is what's crap pal and apparently you bought it.and your point is.....
we should stop supporting uconn because some dolt thinks uconn no longer matters?
maybe you can go root for PC or someone else... seriously, take your crap and sell it somewhere else.
wtf are you talking about? uconn went from playing in msg to talks of the palestra. uconn went from playing top notch competition to competing against smu and houston. uconn is getting paid pennies for tv rights when others are earning 20mil plus. that is what's crap pal and apparently you bought it.
dude, what is your point? please show me one post hat suggests anyone would prefer uconn remain in this conference over an invite to any of the power 5.The anomaly is butler.I concede that. But whether or not that is sustainable remains to be seen. What confuses me most is what is your goal here? Do you want UConn to become a glorified mid major? Because that is all you mention here. One off stories with no substance. Get real buddy. To remain elite, to continue to recruit, to continue the pedigree of sending kids to the NBA, to continue to make money, to continue to have national exposure, etc you have to be in a power conference. The teams you mentioned above have none of that. WAKE UP. Two years ago, the question on this board was whether or not we are blue blood. Now you are comparing us to mid-majors and we are supposed to get excited. The only person I know who this excites is Ed Cooley. As long as UConn remains in this s&*t storm, he will be able to compete for recruits!
If you are going to talk the talk, walk the walk. Many guys on here keep saying on how UConn will remain an elite program and that recruits will still want to come,etc. Have faith, they say. Well, my point is if this is indeed true, don't fear playing in half filled nba arenas. Don't think playing in a 9000 seat gym for a conference championship is what elite programs do. Don't compare UConn to Butler, Creighton, UNLV, or Gonzaga. The fact that I am getting slammed because I don't see how any of this fits UConn's profile probably summarizes the problem. I believe that UConn is one of the top 6 programs in America. I do not believe that this administration or fan base is acting like it.I'm not getting you here. What are you saying exactly. That UConn fans don't travel to conference tourneys? Louisville does? Huh?
If you are going to talk the talk, walk the walk. Many guys on here keep saying on how UConn will remain an elite program and that recruits will still want to come,etc. Have faith, they say. Well, my point is if this is indeed true, don't fear playing in half filled nba arenas. Don't think playing in a 9000 seat gym for a conference championship is what elite programs do. Don't compare UConn to Butler, Creighton, UNLV, or Gonzaga. The fact that I am getting slammed because I don't see how any of this fits UConn's profile probably summarizes the problem. I believe that UConn is one of the top 6 programs in America. I do not believe that this administration or fan base is acting like it.
I'm wondering how many fans are coming to watch the new BE at the garden. Lots of empty seats.So, basically you're saying you've never been to the BET, where teams like Louisville don't bring enough fans to pack the place. Only Cuse and UConn do, Pitt to a lesser degree. UNC, Kentucky, Louisville, they are not bringing more than 4,000 fans to a tourney 1300 miles away. It's just not happening.
You really wouldn't look forward to watching UConn play teams like Cincy, Temple, Memphis, even Houston, on 2 nights, semis and finals, in a historic arena, in a city 3 1/2 hours from New Haven, a city with great bars and restaurants?