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“I feel great, 100 percent, no ill effects at all,” said the redshirt freshman guard, who underwent shoulder surgery last November to repair the damage. “I’m just working on my craft, getting better every day.”

- Alterique Gilbert, June 1 2017. Alterique Gilbert Gets Back On The Court

I'm just saying, everyone chill on this and expect nothing. I hope with all my heart that it works out and he becomes Kemba2. But history of injury like this does not have a great rate of successfully staying off the training table.
 

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I just want the kid to have some time pain free and enjoy the game. It’s heartbreaking to see two years like this. Constant pain and fear that it’s all coming apart for you. Just looking for some light at the end of the tunnel for him.
 

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“I feel great, 100 percent, no ill effects at all,” said the redshirt freshman guard, who underwent shoulder surgery last November to repair the damage. “I’m just working on my craft, getting better every day.”

- Alterique Gilbert, June 1 2017. Alterique Gilbert Gets Back On The Court

I'm just saying, everyone chill on this and expect nothing. I hope with all my heart that it works out and he becomes Kemba2. But history of injury like this does not have a great rate of successfully staying off the training table.

Actually, Dr. Andrews and the specialist who performed the surgery indicated that it tends to completely resolve these issues permanently when it is performed. They said he'd be 100% and re-injury was unlikely.

That said, I expected him to be a bit rusty. So the fact that he is feeling good this early will go a long way to reducing that effect.
 
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What is this based on?

2 chronically unstable shoulders from high school football injuries and 15 years of meeting with different orthopedic doctors telling me that the complexity of the shoulder makes for high rate of failure (compared to other joints), a high rate of re-occurrence, etc.

Look I hope he comes in and becomes and All-American. But we should all set expectations at "I hope" and not "I know" in terms of his production and durability.

This is now 3 strait years where he was derailed by shoulder injuries and multiple "successful surgeries". So, just, we should reflect that risk in our portrait of what he can do.
 
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The most telling quote:

"The timing is great,” he said. “The program has been down, and I think we can really build. I want to be part of a championship team. We’ve been lacking heart and toughness. I think you’ll see my leadership abilities go to another level. I’ve learned countless things from the sideline. It’s strengthened my mind.”
 
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Actually, Dr. Andrews and the specialist who performed the surgery indicated that it tends to completely resolve these issues permanently when it is performed. They said he'd be 100% and re-injury was unlikely.

That said, I expected him to be a bit rusty. So the fact that he is feeling good this early will go a long way to reducing that effect.

Super. Andrews is well-respected. When he gets through 7 strait games without a season ending shoulder injury, which he hasn't done in 3 years, perhaps I'll re-evaluate and re-adjust expectations.
 

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2 chronically unstable shoulders from high school football injuries and 15 years of meeting with different orthopedic doctors telling me that the complexity of the shoulder makes for high rate of failure (compared to other joints), a high rate of re-occurrence, etc.

Look I hope he comes in and becomes and All-American. But we should all set expectations at "I hope" and not "I know" in terms of his production and durability.

This is now 3 strait years where he was derailed by shoulder injuries and multiple "successful surgeries". So, just, we should reflect that risk in our portrait of what he can do.
Ok, but your assessment seems to be more of "I know" than the people who performed the surgery and the other medical professionals here who are familiar with it and have indicated a prognosis far more favorable than you project.

I get that no one knows; I was wondering whether you are a professional who is in as good of or better position than they are to suggest a prognosis.
 
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“I feel great, 100 percent, no ill effects at all,” said the redshirt freshman guard, who underwent shoulder surgery last November to repair the damage. “I’m just working on my craft, getting better every day.”

- Alterique Gilbert, June 1 2017. Alterique Gilbert Gets Back On The Court

I'm just saying, everyone chill on this and expect nothing. I hope with all my heart that it works out and he becomes Kemba2. But history of injury like this does not have a great rate of successfully staying off the training table.

Ok, but your assessment seems to be more of "I know" than the people who performed the surgery and the other medical professionals here who are familiar with it and have indicated a prognosis far more favorable than you project.

I get that no one knows; I was wondering whether you are a professional who is in as good of or better position than they are to suggest a prognosis.

I've quoted my first post where I literally start my 2nd to last sentence with "I hope". In this thread.

To your second point, the entire point of posting the article I did from nearly exactly a year ago is to show that the "people who performed the surgery and the other medical professionals" and even Alterique himself said he was 100% almost exactly a year ago. That's the whole point. I posted it for that sole purpose. To show that experts are wrong. That even the player himself was wrong.

So, take all this with a huge grain of salt. I'm not sure there has even been an "unsuccessful" surgery in athletes who publicly require a good outcome to maintain their future potential professional value.

Right? So just keep expectations low. I don't get why what i said is controversial or requires multiple replies. It was just a quick, straitforward exercise in expectation setting for the kid before this board goes off the deep end and sets him up for failure.
 

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He is on track to be cleared for full basketball activities in July, but he probably won’t bother until the ramp-up toward October practice.

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I've quoted my first post where I literally start my 2nd to last sentence with "I hope". In this thread.

To your second point, the entire point of posting the article I did from nearly exactly a year ago is to show that the "people who performed the surgery and the other medical professionals" and even Alterique himself said he was 100% almost exactly a year ago. That's the whole point. I posted it for that sole purpose. To show that experts are wrong. That even the player himself was wrong.

So, take all this with a huge grain of salt. I'm not sure there has even been an "unsuccessful" surgery in athletes who publicly require a good outcome to maintain their future potential professional value.

Right? So just keep expectations low. I don't get why what i said is controversial or requires multiple replies. It was just a quick, straitforward exercise in expectation setting for the kid before this board goes off the deep end and sets him up for failure.

The approach taken the first two times was the same. This is a different, more advanced and novel procedure. This is the guy who did it. Matthew Provencher, MD | Orthopedic Knee & Shoulder Surgeon | Vail Aspen Denver, CO
It involved a bone graft.

Might it fail? It's possible. Greg Oden had microfracture surgery in his knee to repair an injury that is similar to one I have (articular cartilage) and he was never the same. So there are examples. Nothing is 100%.
 

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Ok, but your assessment seems to be more of "I know" than the people who performed the surgery and the other medical professionals here who are familiar with it and have indicated a prognosis far more favorable than you project.

I get that no one knows; I was wondering whether you are a professional who is in as good of or better position than they are to suggest a prognosis.

There are MDs here who said they think his career is done, so I don’t know how much that counts for.
 
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I just want the kid to have some time pain free and enjoy the game. It’s heartbreaking to see two years like this. Constant pain and fear that it’s all coming apart for you. Just looking for some light at the end of the tunnel for him.
Yep. I feel so much for the kid - I want him to actually enjoy playing basketball and being a player at UConn.
 

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I've quoted my first post where I literally start my 2nd to last sentence with "I hope". In this thread.

To your second point, the entire point of posting the article I did from nearly exactly a year ago is to show that the "people who performed the surgery and the other medical professionals" and even Alterique himself said he was 100% almost exactly a year ago. That's the whole point. I posted it for that sole purpose. To show that experts are wrong. That even the player himself was wrong.

So, take all this with a huge grain of salt. I'm not sure there has even been an "unsuccessful" surgery in athletes who publicly require a good outcome to maintain their future potential professional value.

Right? So just keep expectations low. I don't get why what i said is controversial or requires multiple replies. It was just a quick, straitforward exercise in expectation setting for the kid before this board goes off the deep end and sets him up for failure.
You said "expect nothing," which, in my mind, places you among the camp that has written him off.

I am more hopeful, that is all. I think we need this kid, and he needs us.
 

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