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alexrgct

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The offseason is already boring. It's time to play all-time starting lineup wars!

The rules are: there aren't really any. Just post what you think a school's all-time starting lineup should be, and discuss who you think comes out on top. Or just dicuss other people's submissions. What would be some of the best matchups, even if they weren't the two best teams?

You don't have to be strict with positions...but if you put five forwards on the floor, you kind of have to acknowledge it could be a problem.

I'll start with the two obvious- UConn and Tennessee.

UConn:

Sue Bird
Diana Taurasi
Maya Moore
Rebecca Lobo
Tina Charles

Hardest to leave off: Svet Abrosimova. I felt like Sue, D, Maya, and Tina were no-brainers, and Svet in many respects would be a better complement to those four. But Rebecca has the NPOY award, and you also have to acknowledge/respect what she meant to the program. She makes the cut.

Tennessee (and feel free to suggest alternate lineups):

Kara Lawson
Tamika Catchings
Chamique Holdsclaw
Bridgette Gordon
Candace Parker

Hardest to leave off: Daedre Charles. She would give us the exciting Charles v. Charles matchup. She was a more traditional center than Parker, who could easily play other frontcourt positions, and the DC-CP would give the LV lineup more size. Unfortunately, the LVs' all-time great player list is very frontcourt-heavy, and Gordon, Holdsclaw, Catchings, and Parker are the program's Mt. Rushmore (excluding the coach, obviously). Can't leave any of them off, even if the positions aren't perfectly aligned.

How would these teams match up?

PG- Sue versus Kara. Kara was all-everything at Tennessee and did just about everything short of winning a NC. Tennessee has had a number of very good PGs, but it's not been a position of relative strength for them. Kara is the best of the bunch. She's also no Sue Bird. Advantage UConn.

SG- Catch is an all-time great college and pro player. Diana has three rings, two NPOY honors, and is the all-time leader in clutch/swagger. Advantage UConn.

SF- You know what? I'm not even going there with this position. There is no way you'll get an LV fan to acknowledge Maya was better than Chamique, and you sure won't get a UConn fan to acknowledge to opposite. They're both all-timers, and I'm just going to leave it at that.

PF- UConn had a little history before Rebecca arrived. Tennessee had quite a bit before Bridgette. But neither program had a championship. Gordon won two, plus Olympic gold as a collegiate. Advantage: Gordon.

C- Body of work-wise, it's Candace. Absolute peak of their powers at the college level? You could make arguments for both. Bottom line, you pair up Maya with Candace, along with Tiff, Kalana, Renee, Caroline, etc. and UConn easily wins two championships and probably goes 78-0. Team Tina with Horbuckle and Anosike, and I don't know for sure that Tennessee wins two titles, or even one. Advantage: Parker.

Overall: UConn has a distinct backcourt advantage. Tennessee has a slight but not huge frontcourt advantage. I'd pick UConn, but I'm sure LV fans wouldn't.

What do you think?

And who else can join the fray? Baylor with Griner and Sims, plus some of the 2005 team? Stanford with the greats from the early 1990s and their current run of Final Fours? La Tech? ODU?
 

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Following up on something Doug Bruno said a few years ago:

Maya Moore
Maya Moore
Maya Moore
Maya Moore
Tina Charles
 

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let me just say this..... ....LINK

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Empirically, you are spending time on a women's basketball message board during the offseason.

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Following up on something Doug Bruno said a few years ago:

Maya Moore
Maya Moore
Maya Moore
Maya Moore
Tina Charles
I dunno. Tough playing four positions at once, especially against a team as talented as Tennessee. But if anyone could do it, Maya could. :)
 
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I'll admit to thinking about all-time teams quite often. I'll throw out Stanford. With Chiney making it this year Stanford has now had 10 WBCA All-Americans.

1st Team
Jayne Appel 2X
Nneka Ogwumike 3X
Nicole Powell 3X
Candice Wiggins 4X
Jennifer Azzi 2X

2nd team
Chiney Ogwumike 1X
Kristin Folkl 1X
Val Whiting 2X
Kate Starbird 2X
Sonja Henning 1X

Stanford 1st team is pretty decent. An argument could be made for Starbird over Powell given that Starbird won NPOY and went to Final Fours and Powel didn't, but Powell was very likely the better player as their pro careers bore out. I'm tend to favor who was actually the better player over just going with who had the most college accolades.
 

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Empirically, you are spending time on a women's basketball message board during the offseason.


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Well played, Alex, well played......

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I dunno. Tough playing four positions at once, especially against a team as talented as Tennessee. But if anyone could do it, Maya could. :)
My memory failed again. It was Geno's other friend, Harry Peretta. His comments in the fall of 2009:

I'm not just saying that because Geno is my friend," Perretta said. "I mean, Maya Moore is not just the best player in the country at one position, she's probably the best player at four positions. The only position she's not the best player at is center, but they have the best center [Charles]. . . . They're just so far ahead of everybody else. Even when they come down a notch, they're still way ahead."
 

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My memory failed again. It was Geno's other friend, Harry Peretta. His comments in the fall of 2009:

I'm not just saying that because Geno is my friend," Perretta said. "I mean, Maya Moore is not just the best player in the country at one position, she's probably the best player at four positions. The only position she's not the best player at is center, but they have the best center [Charles]. . . . They're just so far ahead of everybody else. Even when they come down a notch, they're still way ahead."

Harry is hilarious. Imagine what he'll be saying about UConn the next few years. I attended the UConn game at Villanova this year and Harry spent quite a few minutes talking to Breanna and her family after the game and I saw a lot of laughing by the Stewart family. Maybe he was telling some Geno stories. Harry won't be laughing much when facing UConn during the next 4 years.
 

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When Bre is blocking 3-pointers, Harry may be crying. :)
 

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For Tennessee
Kellie Jolly
Bridgette Gordon
Tamika Catchings
Candace Parker
Dedra Charles

UConn
Sue Bird
Diana Taurasi
Maya Moore
Nekeysha Sales
Tina Charles
 

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Like your starting five but ...
Sue Bird - definitely has had a better pro career, but I might take JenR over her on college performance and bloody mindedness - she would run through a brick wall to get the win.
Diana Taurasi - no other competition for this spot.
Maya Moore - she belongs but is she the 3 or the 4 - if you move her to 4, then ... Sveta, Sales, and Ralph come into the conversation
Rebecca Lobo - as noted above, Moore?
Tina Charles - got to at least consider the big girl (Wolters), and if Moore is your 4, then Lobo is heavy competition here too.
It is l0vely to have so many great players to choose from and to think of all the great players that aren't even being mentioned - what a wealth of talent has moved through this program
 

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Thanks I made a change Sales in Lobo out.
 

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For Tennessee
Kellie Jolly
Bridgette Gordon
Tamika Catchings
Candace Parker
Dedra Charles

UConn
Sue Bird
Diana Taurasi
Maya Moore
Nekeysha Sales
Tina Charles
I could see Jolly over Lawson...but no Chamique??? Or do you just prefer that lineup as a whole?
 

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There is a debate on who was better Parker or Holdsclaw. I don't think you can go wrong with either. It's also tuff to leave off Gordon or Catchings. I would also have Glory 2nd team 1,000 points and rebounds only 4 players have done that,
 

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Baylor - each an All-American...would be a terrific starting 5
Odyssey Sims
Sheila Lambert
Susie Snider (3,861 pts and 2,176 rebounds - voted top 25 pre-NCAA by ESPN )
Sophia Young
Brittney Griner
 

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LA Tech

Teresa Weatherspoon
Tamicha Jackson
Vickie Johnson
Venus Lacey
Cheryl Ford

That team would be quick, tough and have fabulous ball handlers.
 

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LA Tech

Teresa Weatherspoon
Tamicha Jackson
Vickie Johnson
Venus Lacey
Cheryl Ford

That team would be quick, tough and have fabulous ball handlers.
And perhaps Kim could coach them. :)
 

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Duke ... Caveat.... this list comprises only players who have played since I really started to follow Duke WCBB in the latter 1990's. There were a few great players before then... but I never got to see them in action.

PG Lindsay Harding.
SG Alana Beard
SF Monique Currie
PF Iciss Tillis
C Chante Black*

* By the end of her career... barring injury... Elizabeth Williams will be the C on this list. Chelsea Gray could very well end up being the best PG in Duke history.

** Couple of" oh what could have been seasons" Only if Currie hadnt torn her ACL in the preseason of 2003.... Without her.. we still were 35-1 headed into the Final Four... and ultimately lost to the Lady Vols in a close matchup. But we definitely missed that 3rd reliable scorer in addition to Beard and Tillis in that game vs Tenn.

Only if Black hadnt suffered a knee injury that forced her to miss the 2007 season. Of course we had an undefeated regular season... and only had one loss before being upset by RU in the Sweet 16 in Greensboro (still pains me to think about that game) . Pairing Black with Bales down low... it would have been close to impossible to score down low vs that shot blocking tandem.
 

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Triad--Where's the Jayhawk avatar? I hardly recognize you. :)
 

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Triad--Where's the Jayhawk avatar? I hardly recognize you. :)

They let me down.... they knocked off my #1 most hated team.... was pulling for them to knock off my #3 most hated team... but they failed.... and alas Kentucky won the title :( Figured I would retire the Jayhawk avatar until they can knock UNC out of the tourney again.

I want to maintain my guest status on this board.. so I wont mention who my #2 most hated team is..... :rolleyes:
 

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The 1999 and 2004 seasons would be enough to turn the most benevolent Dukie's heart sour.

Conversely, I saw a thread last year on a UNC board entitled, "UConn continues to do the Lord's work" after the national semis when Uconn beat UK. "Continues" being in reference to the aforementioned seasons. Ah, rivalries...
 

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LA Tech

Teresa Weatherspoon
Tamicha Jackson
Vickie Johnson
Venus Lacey
Cheryl Ford

That team would be quick, tough and have fabulous ball handlers.

Except the other four would not have received the ball that much, with Chucky there...
 
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