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All but official - Warde to Michigan

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Husky25 said:
Heaven forbid.
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Don't look at me. Their last ad ran toys are us and dominos pizza. Two before him, Tom Goss (fired after 3 years) played football at Michigan but came fro Proctor & Gamble. Bill Martin who preceded Brandon was a real estate developer and member of the US Olympic Committee so at least had some background managing athletic programs. He was not a Michigan man (Wittenburg grad) though. He lasted 10 years, and retired rather than being pushed out. There were complaints throughout his tenure that he didn't appreciate Michigan and Michigan should consider that in future hires. So Warde is the highest profile Michigan man available but that in no way assures he is the best qualified guy available.
 
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One of my concerns is the potential that Ollie or Diaco have some sort of clause in their contract regarding WM leaving/a different AD coming on. Does anyone know if either have any changes that have to be made/opened up in the event in the change of AD? For some reason I thought I'd read this about their contracts somewhere on this board.
 
DCUconnfan said:
One of my concerns is the potential that Ollie or Diaco have some sort of clause in their contract regarding WM leaving/a different AD coming on. Does anyone know if either have any changes that have to be made/opened up in the event in the change of AD? For some reason I thought I'd read this about their contracts somewhere on this board.
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Don't know about Diaco..Ollie's has something in it though
 
FDNY99 said:
Don't know about Diaco..Ollie's has something in it though
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Yes, per a release just out from the Courant, Ollie has a. Year from Warde's departure to exercise an escape clause. This gives Ollie a major role in the selection of the next AD if he wants it. Of corse it also gives him the opportunity to go elsewhere without a significant buy out.
 
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freescooter said:
Don't look at me. Their last ad ran toys are us and dominos pizza. Two before him, Tom Goss (fired after 3 years) played football at Michigan but came fro Proctor & Gamble. Bill Martin who preceded Brandon was a real estate developer and member of the US Olympic Committee so at least had some background managing athletic programs. He was not a Michigan man (Wittenburg grad) though. He lasted 10 years, and retired rather than being pushed out. There were complaints throughout his tenure that he didn't appreciate Michigan and Michigan should consider that in future hires. So Warde is the highest profile Michigan man available but that in no way assures he is the best qualified guy available.
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You've brought up the Peter Principle. While it may apply to David Brandon, the Peter Principle doesn't apply to Warde Manuel, who not only climbed the ranks within the industry, but successfully held the top post at two institutions prior to Michigan and make no mistake. Warde Manuel was successful at UConn.

Personally I don't put a ton of stock in the "Michigan Man" thing they have going on in Ann Arbor, but in Warde Manuel's case, it certainly is not a checkmark in the negative (Incidentally, Martin got his MBA from The Ross School of Business. So he actually was a Michigan Man.)
 
junglehusky said:
Administrators don't need to be former athletes to understand the importance of athletics to a University. Herbst understands. Sports = branding = increasing number and quality of applicants = future alumni. You don't have to take my word for it, go to a UConn alumni event where she speaks and judge for yourself.
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Much more complicated than understanding sports are important. College sports is its own industry sadly with many stakeholders. These are essentially media entertainment and finance deals and if you don't know how to navigate the business its trouble. Its precisely why we were left on the curb previously. Total failure to appreciate what was occurring and where things were headed, failure to be ready to market a financial case of value add, and failure to get financing in place to leverage ourselves into a conference. Say what you will, but Rutgers played the game well, and sold the Big10 on increased revenue as opposed to a welfare member. Despite how terrible they are a every level it worked. Sometimes you have recognize incompetence when the facts unabashedly support it. The last CR round, Warde and Susan got caught with their pants down sipping Daiquiris in PR.
 
FDNY99 said:
Don't know about Diaco..Ollie's has something in it though
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Would people be that upset if Ollie left? I know very little about college basketball, but I was wondering the other week if we wouldn't consider Ed Cooley if Ollie left
 
uconnphil2016 said:
Would people be that upset if Ollie left? I know very little about college basketball, but I was wondering the other week if we wouldn't consider Ed Cooley if Ollie left
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Yes..but I don't think Ollie is gonna leave to tell you the truth. But yeah I can see Cooley being a candidate if he did. He's more likely to end up at BC though.
 
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Stairmaster said:
Yes. Yes they would.
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FDNY99 said:
Yes..but I don't think Ollie is gonna leave to tell you the truth. But yeah I can see Cooley being a candidate if he did. He's more likely to end up at BC though.
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Okay, that seemed smart in my mind but I was afraid I'd get dumped on for saying it. That being said, let me ask a follow up question...who would you rather have--Ollie or Cooley?
 
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I'd rather see Ollie coaching as the staff still seems to recruit their fair share of top talent and..... the biggest problem with last years team was youth and chemistry. This year, injury and chemistry. I'm not sure you can coach chemistry. But...if for some reason Ollie decided to move on why not the guy sitting next to him, Glen Miller?
 
weyuo said:
I'd rather see Ollie coaching as the staff still seems to recruit their fair share of top talent and..... the biggest problem with last years team was youth and chemistry. This year, injury and chemistry. I'm not sure you can coach chemistry. But...if for some reason Ollie decided to move on why not the guy sitting next to him, Glen Miller?
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I think/hope chemistry is coming together and the injury is about to heal. This team can still make a serious run and put any Ollie debate to bed.
 
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Thanks Warde for all your hard work and your outstanding coaching hires.

I'm sure Michigan is his absolute dream job and he has completely earned it in my eyes. I wish him nothing but the best and hope he puts a good word in for us with the Delaney
 
Husky25 said:
Only if "one" = Freescooter.

One might argue that being tapped for the Michigan job (one might argue that it is the best and highest profile in the industry) is evidence that one might use to argue that Manuel did better than a merely low average job. One might argue that as well.
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One might agree with you over freescooter. Well at this this one will.
 
Hold on, let me get this straight...I know that Herbst and Manuel were in PR during the heat of the CR stuff with the ACC, but is someone trying to say that they were caught with their pants down FIGURATIVELY or LITERALLY....if the latter, I've never heard that one before and hope to never hear it again lol
 
One can only hope that Warde will leave UCONN with positve memories and positive thoughts for the potential of the university.

I bet he was sweating more than usual, when it was 21-7 uconn over michigan in the 3rd quarter back in sept 2013.

Its all about personal relationships, and personalities, and having a friend in the athletic director's chair at Michigan can only be a positive thing, if for nothing else than scheduling. At least one voice, that can speak well for UCONN at a big boy table, should the discussions ever come up.


I hope that Warde leaves on great terms with the school, because he did a good job.
 
Carl Spackler said:
One can only hope that Warde will leave UCONN with positve memories and positive thoughts for the potential of the university.

I bet he was sweating more than usual, when it was 21-7 uconn over michigan in the 3rd quarter back in sept 2013.

Its all about personal relationships, and personalities, and having a friend in the athletic director's chair at Michigan can only be a positive thing, if for nothing else than scheduling. At least one voice, that can speak well for UCONN at a big boy table, should the discussions ever come up.


I hope that Warde leaves on great terms with the school, because he did a good job.
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"...I'm grateful for being the athletic director at UConn. No matter what the future brings I'll always have a tremendous love and admiration for this university and this state."
 
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