Alabama @ Mississippi St (9) - 2/23/20

[Plebe]

We need South Carolina to whoop A&M badly.

Sorry, but why would this help? MSU is still 2 games ahead of A&M.

 

[SimpleDawg]

Sorry, but why would this help? MSU is still 2 games ahead of A&M.

If Arkansas, A&M, and MSU tie for 2nd place.... I don't know how that breaks the tie.

Best thing is to eliminate A&M from being able to contend for 2nd place altogether. I'm ok with being the #3 team in the SEC, but not the #4 team.

Unless you know the tiebreaker rules.

 

[SECbbfan24]

Miss St at worst has one more loss, with Arkansas. They aren't losing to Ole miss.

 

[GRIFFBIFF20]

AEH continues to be in Vic's Dog House. What a difference for AEH from last season to this season

 

[Zanzman]

Called it

 

[Wbbfan1]

Miss St had the advantage on most stats with the Exception of Three Point Shooting. That's where Miss St lost the game. Bama 9-14 on three point shooting, Miss St 1-8. Thats an 8 point difference in a two point game.

 

[Plebe]

If Arkansas, A&M, and MSU tie for 2nd place.... I don't know how that breaks the tie.

Best thing is to eliminate A&M from being able to contend for 2nd place altogether. I'm ok with being the #3 team in the SEC, but not the #4 team.

Unless you know the tiebreaker rules.

Ah, I see.

I don't know the SEC's specific tiebreaker rules, but in most conferences it's usually (1) head to head, and if they're tied on H2H it's (2) whichever team has the best in-conference win.

Margin of victory against common opponent (which I gathered you were suggesting) rarely if ever is used as a tiebreaker AFAIK. Someone can correct me if I'm wrong.

MSU should just beat Arkansas and Ole Miss to remove any doubt.

 

[GRIFFBIFF20]

Miss St needs 3 point shooters. They miss so many wide open shots.

They also seem to be getting worse or much more inconsistent down the stretch.

Vic has one in AEH, but he has ripped her confidence totally apart. Horrible job of coaching this season by Vic

 

[SECbbfan24]

Vic has one in AEH, but he has ripped her confidence totally apart. Horrible job of coaching this season by Vic

Miss St lost most of their starters from last season (including arguably their best player in school history) and are leaning on freshmen and sophomores to carry the team. I think they are doing a little bit better than most expected this year.

As for AEH. She had the luxury of hitting WIDE open shots last year as a spot up shooter w/ Bibby while McCowan and Howard terrorized the paint. Its much different this year now. The wide open shots she had she has missed. The rest of the shots are now much more difficult without the post presence. She isn't very active rebounding or creating assists for teammates. So it begs the question of why does she deserves so much playing time as you are implying? I agree they should give her a shot to get things sparked up on offense but if she isn't going to score, get beat defensively, why is she out there? M. Taylor, who is pretty inept offensively is creating assists for her team, steals, taking charges. She is at least contributing to other aspects to the game, which is why she is out there. AEH's biggest attribute is scoring and she has not done it much this year.

I like AEH and hope she can finish the year on a tear but if she wants more time she has to step up when the opportunity presents itself.

 

[bballnut90]

We were never a contender this year. If we could get to the elite 8, we'll call this an overachieving season. And if we can get to the final 4, we'll be crowing all offseason about how we're gonna be the team to beat next year.

I agree. Elite 8 would be a great accomplishment for this group. Was mostly highlighting that you start to see clearer separation this time of year between the elite and the rest of the pack. Lots of good teams losing games they shouldnt be.

 

[bballnut90]

Vic has one in AEH, but he has ripped her confidence totally apart. Horrible job of coaching this season by Vic

Nah, he's done a solid job this year. Mississippi State is drastically different this year and they're still a top 10-15 team after losing 3 top players and bringing on a slew of freshmen. Give em a year or two and theyll be incredibly dangerous.

 

[Plebe]

Miss St lost most of their starters from last season (including arguably their best player in school history) and are leaning on freshmen and sophomores to carry the team. I think they are doing a little bit better than most expected this year.

I think this is about what most people expected, somewhere in the 8-12 range.

MSU's preseason rankings:
AP poll: #10
Coaches' poll: #8
Boneyard poll: #10

 

[triaddukefan]

If Arkansas, A&M, and MSU tie for 2nd place.... I don't know how that breaks the tie.

Best thing is to eliminate A&M from being able to contend for 2nd place altogether. I'm ok with being the #3 team in the SEC, but not the #4 team.

Unless you know the tiebreaker rules.

I posted a thread with a link to conference tournaments a few days.... it has all the tiebreakers... check it out.

 

[GoDawgs4]

No need to let one loss cause folks to jump off a cliff.

The last three seasons, State has only returned one starter each year from the previous season. With the loss of an aggregate total of 12 starters over those three seasons and maintaining the consistent high level of play shows that Coach Schaefer is an excellent Coach.

I think he (though he would never admit it) is okay with this loss. Sometimes you need to lose the battle in order to eventually win the war.

Our girls learned a hard lesson today but later I think we will benefit from it.

 

[MSUFan2003]

Miss St at worst has one more loss, with Arkansas. They aren't losing to Ole miss.

I'm not sure we can score enough points to beat Arkansas.

 

[Plebe]

I'm not sure we can score enough points to beat Arkansas.

Arkansas just lost to Florida, so they're 2 games behind MSU now. MSU would have to lose to Ole Miss, as well as Arkansas, for them to end up tying. That's even less likely than A&M beating SC.

 

[IWearShoes]

Danberry while a good player does not appear to be a leader in any sense of the word. Neither is Bibby.
Jackson is a Freshman so she does not have the experience yet to be the Leader.

At this point I will be happy if we make it to the Sweet Sixteen.Even that is doubtful at this point.

Why would your goal have ever been more than the Sweet Sixteen considering the players we lost and our youth? Expectations have been amped to unreasonable levels.

 

[IWearShoes]

Okay, I seriously never want to hear another snide comment about the conference UConn plays in.

This would be the equivalent of losing to Cincinnati.

Cincy is 2nd in the AAC. Bama is 8th in the SEC.

 

[GoDawgs4]

Why would your goal have ever been more than the Sweet Sixteen considering the players we lost and our youth? Expectations have been amped to unreasonable levels.

Well I always want us to go as far as I possible. This team has exceeded expectations to this point and I was probably a bit too giddy about the possibility of them getting to the EE it even an outside shot at a FF.
Those things are still possible but cold reality says if we make the SS, that it will have been a tremendous season.
Definitely not giving up on this team and the potential is still there to make a good run in postseason.
We will see.

 

[Plebe]

Cincy is 3rd in the AAC. Bama is 9th in the SEC.

This only reinforces my point. MSU just lost to an AAC 3rd place-level team. So I guess it's not quite the "rest" that some people claim.

 

[IWearShoes]

Horrible loss. Vic has no clue who should be playing. Teams continue to play a zone yet he still runs that same dribble drive offense against that zone with two guards who are terrified to even attempt a three point shot. Makes no sense at all for both Myah Taylor and Jordan to be in the game together...especially when teams are playing zone against them. AEH is one of the few pure shooters on the team yet he has absolutely destroyed her confidence....just destroyed it. She hadn't played he entire second half yet he throws her out there with only seconds left in the game and expects her to make a play. I'm shocked she even hit one free throw after being glued to the bench for so long. Vic had a once in a generation player in Big T and at one point she was surrounded by a pure scorer in Victoria Vivians and a dynamic do it all point guard in Morgan William yet Vic didn't win a ring with that talent. Big T covered up a lot of Vic's short comings as a coach and now that she is gone I wouldn't be surprised if they lose in the first round of the NCAA tournament.

What an absolutely ridiculous post. Crawl back under your couch.

 

[ConnecticutBB]

Is there a press conference link anyone can provide?

 

[IWearShoes]

This only reinforces my point. MSU just lost to an AAC 3rd place-level team. So I guess it's not quite the "rest" that some people claim.

It seemed your point was about the quality of the two conferences. I was making the point that equivalent teams are in very different positions in the standings of the two leagues.

If your point was this was a bad loss for MSU, well that's correct, self evident, and kinda rude to say to a group of fans after a tough loss.

 

[IWearShoes]

I do find it interesting, and kinda typical, that nobody is acknowledging how well Bama played down the stretch. They won the game more than MSU lost it IMO. Congrats to Coach Curry, who has certainly had a struggle there.

 

[Plebe]

It seemed your point was about the quality of the two conferences. I was making the point that equivalent teams are in very different positions in the standings of the two leagues.

If your point was this was a bad loss for MSU, well that's correct, self evident, and kinda rude to say to a group of fans after a tough loss.

No, it was about the quality of the conference, in a sense. Not that the SEC isn't a better conference, which clearly it is. What I meant was that the difference gets overstated, and that going undefeated year in and year out in a weaker conference like the AAC isn't the cinch that people assume it to be. Even a very good and historically consistent team like Mississippi State is prone to a loss like this.