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Very intrigued by this experiment of dropping huge coin on one dude to try to single handedly (pretty much) build a basketball culture somewhere. It’s a very real possibility that they’re a middling team with one superstar next year. Does that still get the alums to open up checkbooks at a school that historically, doesn’t really care about basketball that much?

I don't think the goal is to even necessarily be competitive for championships. In fact, I'm pretty certain that's not the goal. All about eyeballs on the TV set, full gym, and getting a bunch of bandwagon fans.
 
It's ultimately going to be bad for the sport. But can't really fault him for it.

Of course not and anyone here who does is beyond lame and holding onto a notion of college athletics that is long dead. Any authenticity or honor with CBB ended many, many years ago. Players have gone to the highest bidder for years. You have guys transferring four times in four years now. Coaches come and go. Rivalries are pretty much dead because there is no continuity.

Obviously I'm an enormous UConn fan. But if I had a son with crazy talent I'm encouraging him to go to the highest bidder. To me it would be stupid not to. AJ will be a top pick whether he went here, to BYU, or to Mitchell College (does that even still exist?)
 
Of course not and anyone here who does is beyond lame and holding onto a notion of college athletics that is long dead. Any authenticity or honor with CBB ended many, many years ago. Players have gone to the highest bidder for years. You have guys transferring four times in four years now. Coaches come and go. Rivalries are pretty much dead because there is no continuity.

Obviously I'm an enormous UConn fan. But if I had a son with crazy talent I'm encouraging him to go to the highest bidder. To me it would be stupid not to. AJ will be a top pick whether he went here, to BYU, or to Mitchell College (does that even still exist?)
Maybe he'll be a top pick if he lasts that long. He'll get double/tripled teamed regularly at a place without help. And it will be physical too.
 
Of course not and anyone here who does is beyond lame and holding onto a notion of college athletics that is long dead. Any authenticity or honor with CBB ended many, many years ago. Players have gone to the highest bidder for years. You have guys transferring four times in four years now. Coaches come and go. Rivalries are pretty much dead because there is no continuity.

Obviously I'm an enormous UConn fan. But if I had a son with crazy talent I'm encouraging him to go to the highest bidder. To me it would be stupid not to. AJ will be a top pick whether he went here, to BYU, or to Mitchell College (does that even still exist?)
My biggest question is what drove the price up to 7mm? If the four competitors were pitching 6mm each to push market, boy the NIL budgets are popping fast.



 
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If this kid could get paid millions by making or creating a widget, or by designing a cool new idea, nobody would care the money he got, and nobody would demonize him. This is silly. Bottom line? he should be allowed to go straight into the league.
 
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I don't think AJ is a bad kid. His father is running his recruitment and is looking to retire on his son. That's the system today and he's taking advantage of it. His father is doing what he thinks is right and AJ is letting his father run things. It is what it is.
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Interesting article from Matt Norlander at CBS Sports. To piggyback on my post above about his father going to games after Dybantsa had already signed with BYU, Alabama and UNC are not too happy about that.

it's been so long since UNC had an elite, blue chip draft ready prospect that they had to reference a Duke player in their pitch to him, damn

North Carolina pitched him a vision of being the next all-time scoring superstar to wear Tar Heel Blue, following in the footsteps of Michael Jordan, Vince Carter and Jerry Stackhouse. They referenced how Zion Williamson's net worth skyrocketed by choosing to play at Duke instead of Clemson, laying out what one season at a blue blood did for his career in advance of being drafted by the New Orleans Pelicans, including a shoe deal worth upward of $50 million before ever playing an NBA game.
 
There are not many talents like Dybansta and Flagg, so no I dont think this type of money will be seen much, but to your point I think it did raise the floor on garden variety 5 stars values. Like maybe 1.5 million just went to 2.5.

If history has taught us anything, it's that the value of athletes never stops going up. I suspect it will get out of control faster than you can say Jack Robinson. There are no restrains on NIL. And it follows that the amount of money spent on players will explode.
 
it's been so long since UNC had an elite, blue chip draft ready prospect that they had to reference a Duke player in their pitch to him, damn

North Carolina pitched him a vision of being the next all-time scoring superstar to wear Tar Heel Blue, following in the footsteps of Michael Jordan, Vince Carter and Jerry Stackhouse. They referenced how Zion Williamson's net worth skyrocketed by choosing to play at Duke instead of Clemson, laying out what one season at a blue blood did for his career in advance of being drafted by the New Orleans Pelicans, including a shoe deal worth upward of $50 million before ever playing an NBA game.
I also thought that was strange.
 
If you want to know a little more about how NIL works and how BYU got Dybantsa over Alabama and UNC, you can read Matt Norlander's deeper dive into this. He's saying BYU gave Dybantsa $5 million. The $7 million number might include other NIL deals outside their NIL collective. UNC and Alabama couldn't come up with the $5 million from their NIL collectives and tried to structure the money the Dybantsas wanted in other ways. See "Dybantsa's commitment shows changes in CBB power dynamic"


I was reading this article the other day about Ryan Young, BYU's biggest athletic donor.


He said he met with the Dybantsas but did not offer them any money and he didn't contribute any money to BYU's NIL Collective to get Dybantsa. And BYU didn't ask him for any money. Does anyone believe this BS? Then why did he meet with the Dybanstas? To tell them how pretty the BYU campus is?

Btw, rumor is BYU will be opening their season next year against Villanova.

O.K. enough about Dybansta. But I do find it very interesting how this whole NIL thing is working for recruiting. Carry on with more UConn specific topics. :)
 
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If you want to know a little more about how NIL works and how BYU got Dybantsa over Alabama and UNC, you can read Matt Norlander's deeper dive into this. He's saying BYU gave Dybantsa $5 million. The $7 million number might include other NIL deals outside their NIL collective. UNC and Alabama couldn't come up with the $5 million from their NIL collectives and tried to structure the money the Dybantsas wanted in other ways. See "Dybantsa's commitment shows changes in CBB power dynamic"


I was reading this article the other day about Ryan Young, BYU's biggest athletic donor.


He said he met with the Dybantsas but did not offer them any money and he didn't contribute any money to BYU's NIL Collective to get Dybantsa. And BYU didn't ask him for any money. Does anyone believe this BS? Then why did he meet with the Dybanstas? To tell them how pretty the BYU campus is?

Btw, rumor is BYU will be opening their season next year against Villanova.

O.K. enough about Dybansta. But I do find it very interesting how this whole NIL thing is working for recruiting. Carry on with more UConn specific topics. :)
Super interesting indeed. It’s basically cold hard donor cash collectives vs marketing “potential”. I wonder how it’s paid out - lump sum, upon signing? Upon enrolling? The transaction dynamic would be interesting to know.

Another question - is Michael Jordan and his billions contributing at all to the UNC collective or just his gambling addiction? Did MJ do more for UNC than UNC did for MJ? It’s a depressing thought to think a blue blood school would reroute their focus on FB at the sake of watering down their hoops. But perhaps a long term play to where they could have both. UNC FB is must watch TV next season.

Still question the value of a OAD. They’re very exciting but do they win? You look at Rutgers this year, which has two of these studs and it’s not really amounting to anything that looks like a deep tourney team. I honestly don’t know if you’ll ever win the big one with these freshman unless you have the right types of more senior players around them.
 
Another question - is Michael Jordan and his billions contributing at all to the UNC collective or just his gambling addiction? Did MJ do more for UNC than UNC did for MJ? It’s a depressing thought to think a blue blood school would reroute their focus on FB at the sake of watering down their hoops.
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If you want to know a little more about how NIL works and how BYU got Dybantsa over Alabama and UNC, you can read Matt Norlander's deeper dive into this. He's saying BYU gave Dybantsa $5 million. The $7 million number might include other NIL deals outside their NIL collective. UNC and Alabama couldn't come up with the $5 million from their NIL collectives and tried to structure the money the Dybantsas wanted in other ways. See "Dybantsa's commitment shows changes in CBB power dynamic"


I was reading this article the other day about Ryan Young, BYU's biggest athletic donor.


He said he met with the Dybantsas but did not offer them any money and he didn't contribute any money to BYU's NIL Collective to get Dybantsa. And BYU didn't ask him for any money. Does anyone believe this BS? Then why did he meet with the Dybanstas? To tell them how pretty the BYU campus is?

Btw, rumor is BYU will be opening their season next year against Villanova.

O.K. enough about Dybansta. But I do find it very interesting how this whole NIL thing is working for recruiting. Carry on with more UConn specific topics. :)
If Dybantsa gets 5 mil for his first year, would/could he make another 15 mil if he stays at BYU for the next 3 years?
 
If Dybantsa gets 5 mil for his first year, would/could he make another 15 mil if he stays at BYU for the next 3 years?
Not sure. I guess that's possible. He could also transfer every year and assuming he is as good as he's expected to be, I'm sure there would be schools every year who would pony up. He could be a free agent every year and go to the highest bidder each time.
 
I find this oddly reassuring. I only care about UConn doing well. If a school like Duke or Arkansas was going to stack the roster, it’s nice to know that other schools will go all in on top players to pick a few off the board. I was a little worried they would play free agency like the Pirates and spread their money around.
 
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You look at Rutgers this year, which has two of these studs and it’s not really amounting to anything that looks like a deep tourney team. I honestly don’t know if you’ll ever win the big one with these freshman unless you have the right types of more senior players around them.
Didn’t Rutgers just lose to Princeton??
 
He's better
Better pure scorer, not sure about all the other stuff. Flagg is going to be an interesting eval in the upcoming draft with guys like Harper behind him. Where Harper is easily a better pure on ball scorer, Flagg does all the other stuff so well that contribute to winning.
 
There was an article in the Athletic yesterday about him, but I can’t figure out how to link it.

He won Massachusetts Gatorade Player of the Year as a high school freshman, which came with a $1,000 prize. He donated it to the local Boys & Girls club instead of keeping it. Decision was apparently influenced by a trip to his fathers home town in Congo.

Another part talks about how his father drove him six hours to New Jersey for a tournament and then had his coaches bench him because he didn’t make sixth grade honor roll.

I’ll be rooting for AJ.
 
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Another part talks about how his father drove him six hours to New Jersey for a tournament and then had his coaches bench him because he didn’t make sixth grade honor roll.
This is one of those things that as a parent I'm like "Oh man, what a legend." And if I was a kid I'd be like yo wtf.
 
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This is one of those things that as a parent I'm like "Oh man, what a legend." And if I was a kid I'd be like yo wtf.
They let him warm up as if everything was normal, and then informed him he wouldn’t be playing after warm ups. Ouch.

The coach did let him play the second game figuring the point had been made, but his father informed him on the ride home, that next time they wouldn‘t make the trip. Honor roll ever since.
 
There was an article in the Athletic yesterday about him, but I can’t figure out how to link it.

He won Massachusetts Gatorade Player of the Year as a high school freshman, which came with a $1,000 prize. He donated it to the local Boys & Girls club instead of keeping it. Decision was apparently influenced by a trip to his fathers home town in the Congo.

Another part talks about how his father drove him six hours to New Jersey for a tournament and then had his coaches bench him because he didn’t make sixth grade honor roll.

I’ll be rooting for AJ.
Athletic Article about AJ Dybantsa
 
“People just gonna talk, but I (didn’t) even know how much I’m getting. They just tell my dad all of that,” Dybantsa said. “I’m trying to make it to the NBA, so wherever they can get me the fastest there with the best development, there’s a whole lot of pillars that come with it. Money’s going to come if I do the work, so I’m not worried about the money in a year.”
 
There was an article in the Athletic yesterday about him, but I can’t figure out how to link it.

He won Massachusetts Gatorade Player of the Year as a high school freshman, which came with a $1,000 prize. He donated it to the local Boys & Girls club instead of keeping it. Decision was apparently influenced by a trip to his fathers home town in Congo.

Another part talks about how his father drove him six hours to New Jersey for a tournament and then had his coaches bench him because he didn’t make sixth grade honor roll.

I’ll be rooting for AJ.
I believe his father is a police officer. Those types tend to be tough disciplinarians with their kids, so I don't know if the bolded part is true for sure, but it's believable.
 
I believe his father is a police officer. Those types tend to be tough disciplinarians with their kids, so I don't know if the bolded part is true for sure, but it's believable.
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