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Irish Loop said:
Ryan Boatright was a supremely talented point guard, though I never really felt he was the same kind of leader that Shabazz Napier or Kemba Walker was. You need more than pure talent to lead a team to an NCAA title. Could Sterling Gibbs be that guy? Given his history, it seems unlikely. Could Jalen Adams be that guy? Quite possibly, but almost certainly not as a freshman.

So that being said, I'd have to say that there's no addition by subtraction here, because we did not get that same level of Shabazz-level leadership in return for Boatright's pure skills. Though you could make the case Gibbs/Adams is probably an equal substitution for Boatright/Samuels.
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DHam hopefully has been working on his game. Gibbs is a lot closer to Boat than Samuels is to Adams.
So, I think there will be three players capable of directing the offense, plus play making ability coming out of the PF position.
Huge improvement.
 
Jaybo said:
Hey boat was good but I believe Gibbs and Adams being surrounded by a more experienced deeper team benefit.
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Proclamations such as the one you are making are silly. In a scientific world you would be hammered. Keep Samuel and Boatright, Lubin, just add Miller and no one else, have one more year of experience with everyone and what would happen? A much better team most likely. Too many variables are changing to determine your suggestion.

I'm excited by next years team. On paper Ryan was replaced by someone his equal. Jalen is potentially an upgrade over Terrance but he's still a freshman to a player who would have been a junior and two years of college experience is why I say potentially. Talent wise there is no comparison. No way to know the benefit of Steve vs. the Rock although Enoch has a height advantage. The big ? will be if Shonn provides the athleticism and bb IQ at the 4 which no one last season demonstrated that combo. On paper he seems to provide that. But paper and reality are two different things.

I am very excited about this years team. I'll just wait to see if they can gel.
 
Is it true he scored over 100 points in a game in Canada?
 
Regardless of the addition by subtraction BS - I know what he was trying to get at but my biggest concern is WHO in this group of talented individuals will be the LEADER of the team.
All champions have a leader (besides KO).
 
Jaybo said:
I think by replacing our two guards by subtracting boat and Samuels and adding Gibbs and Adams our team Benifets this year when you look at the other additions in miller and Enoch.
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It's called replacement. Addition by subtraction is what Duke did when Coach K kicked Rasheed Sulaimon off the team and effectively out of school.
 
gtcam said:
Regardless of the addition by subtraction BS - I know what he was trying to get at but my biggest concern is WHO in this group of talented individuals will be the LEADER of the team.
All champions have a leader (besides KO).
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Hamilton and Purvis. Feel better now? ;)
 
Would the 2015-16 team be better if Boat was on it? No doubt, yes. Hence, it's not addition by subtraction.
 
Love me some Boat but I'm sorry he was not a true point, good passer or team leader. His body language sucked this year, and I don't think he put any of his teammates in great position. There are games where Dham threw more alley oops to Brimah than Boat did in his whole career.
 
mauconnfan said:
Instead of who?
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I would say instead of almost anybody.

Boatright is a Husky all time great. I don't see anyone as good as him on the team next season, not Sterling, not Purvis, not Hamilton.

While Hamilton has a lot more pro potential, I don't think he's at Boatright's level yet on the court.
 
Leebo said:
Why is it necessary to replace someone in a hypothetical? There's room on the roster, if he theoretically had eligibility.
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Because if you have Boat then I'm just guessing Sterling Gibbs never comes right?

I like what we have coming in and think both Gibbs and the unproven Adams will fill his spot in a very worthy fashion. So in that case ask you why is it necessary to even have this hypothetical?
 
mauconnfan said:
Because if you have Boat then I'm just guessing Sterling Gibbs never comes right?

I like what we have coming in and think both Gibbs and the unproven Adams will fill his spot in a very worthy fashion. So in that case ask you why is it necessary to even have this hypothetical?
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It's for the purpose of evaluating the "addition by subtraction" description. Typically this is only applied to situations where a player leaves who had an attitude or chemistry problem, regardless of their skill level.

Most people would object to the characterization of Boatright that way.
 
Leebo said:
It's for the purpose of evaluating the "addition by subtraction" description. Typically this is only applied to situations where a player leaves who had an attitude or chemistry problem, regardless of their skill level.

Most people would object to the characterization of Boatright that way.
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I'm shocked by your patience in explaining this concept over and over.

huskiesnyc said:
Love me some Boat but I'm sorry he was not a true point, good passer or team leader. His body language sucked this year, and I don't think he put any of his teammates in great position. There are games where Dham threw more alley oops to Brimah than Boat did in his whole career.
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This is one of the dumbest points that keeps getting made here. Boatright was recruited as a PG and he played a lot of PG. That he also played SG when Napier was here doesn't change that. His teammates failed to execute given a great many opportunities to do so. That's not on Boat.
 
mets1090 said:
What we have here is a fundamental misunderstanding of the phrase "addition by subtraction."
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Are you shocked? Multiple people are STILL calling TSam "Samuels," for no apparent reason. We've known the guy like 3 years now.
 
CallMeBruce said:
This is one of the dumbest points that keeps getting made here. Boatright was recruited as a PG and he played a lot of PG. That he also played SG when Napier was here doesn't change that. His teammates failed to execute given a great many opportunities to do so. That's not on Boat.
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Yes but his body language cost us at least a few baskets per game.
 
Wow, the amount of passive aggressive bashing (and also some blatant bashing) of Boat is amazing (though this is the Boneyard after all so I guess I shouldn't be too surprised). Boat is an all time great who was a key piece to a championship. This last year he didn't have consistent support from any else on the team. That's not on him.

All the new pieces are great, but that doesn't change the fact that UConn is still going to miss Boat. A lot.
 
huskiesnyc said:
Love me some Boat but I'm sorry he was not a true point, good passer or team leader. His body language sucked this year, and I don't think he put any of his teammates in great position. There are games where Dham threw more alley oops to Brimah than Boat did in his whole career.
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This might be one of your dumbest posts ever. Then again you were the guy who said UConn had a 50% chance to repeat and stood by that statement so maybe this isn't your dumbest post ever. But it's still really, really dumb.
 
The original post is subtraction by addition!

With the addition of this thread you have subtracted from us adding post to other threads that are worthy of our time. Like pizza for example.
 
Do people not know what addition by subtraction means? It simply means by subtracting a player (Boat) we would actually be better (addition) all other things constant. Saying that last year's team would have been better without Boat is what addition by subtraction is (We would have lost 20-25 games easy). The fact that we added Gibbs/Adams/Miller would have have no effect. You can't say that we are better this year, because we added these players. That would be addition by addition. Yes the players we have coming in outweigh the players leaving, but addition by subtraction it is not.
 
BUHusky said:
This might be one of your dumbest posts ever. Then again you were the guy who said UConn had a 50% chance to repeat and stood by that statement so maybe this isn't your dumbest post ever. But it's still really, really dumb.
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I'll never live down the 50% chance to repeat statement. But then again when you win 2 to championships in 4 years it's probably not the craziest thing I've posted.
 
It's going to be a long summer. Thank God for beer, girls in bikinis and other distractions.
 
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