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ACC to hire Northwestern AD Jim Phillips as next commissioner- league wants to revisit TV deal and may need “membership change” to aid it

Naaa, Cincinnati, Tulane, SMU, East Carolina, Boise State and Hawaii would have a better chance of getting into the ACC before us! :(

/sarcasm
 
LoyalFanCT said:
Why would that make sense when the ACC is struggling to make their channel profitable? New TV markets, like NYC metro and New-Haven/Hartford, would help the bottom line. Remember, Runtgers did not get into B10 because of stellar sports.
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I thought the ACCN was funded by ESPN. The ACCN and BTN are already in the NYC metro market and are forced upon subscribers who want sports channels. I don't think the addition of UConn would add more cable subscribers to that network as they are already there. The advantage for Rutgers was that New Jersey has a population three times that of Connecticut.
 
If the P5 break loose from the NCAA...look for another look at pods for the ACC...

Having BC, Syracuse in the same division as FSU and Clemson makes little geographic sense.

There has been talk, if the Irish come in, of dividing up geographically...4 pods of four or three pods of five...rotating through other pods...

Having 16, and four pods of 4, would allow a 9th game for SEC-ACC rivalry games and leave room for OOC and room for ND to schedule Navy/USC.

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buddy said:
I thought the ACCN was funded by ESPN. The ACCN and BTN are already in the NYC metro market and are forced upon subscribers who want sports channels. I don't think the addition of UConn would add more cable subscribers to that network as they are already there. The advantage for Rutgers was that New Jersey has a population three times that of Connecticut.
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Would you want to see CT become part of the Mega City in Judge Dredd? Minus Stallone.

UConn basketball has an enormous pull in NYC.
 
Butch said:
Would you want to see CT become part of the Mega City in Judge Dredd? Minus Stallone.

UConn basketball has an enormous pull in NYC.
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I live in NYC and I just don't hear about much about UConn basketball. The may get play on ABC Channel 7 sports report, but now Rutgers is usually the lead college team when the sport report is on, followed by St John's. They do mention UConn from time to time, but not consistently. UConn women of course own SNY. Do you live in NYC Butch or are you just hypothesizing?
 
buddy said:
I live in NYC and I just don't hear about much about UConn basketball. The may get play on ABC Channel 7 sports report, but now Rutgers is usually the lead college team when the sport report is on, followed by St John's. They do mention UConn from time to time, but not consistently. UConn women of course own SNY. Do you live in NYC Butch or are you just hypothesizing?
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Spent most of my life in Fairfield County and my brother lives in NYC. I've even heard UConn football score updates while at a Merchcant Marine (vs Coast Guard) football game at King's Point.
 
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I see occasional UConn gear strolling around Manhattan. I suspect most of those that attend games at the Garden are largely from Connecticut and I am sure that restaurants around there are grateful for UConn fans. I still do not think UConn will be leaving the Big East for a long, long time. I am sure that the administration concluded that there was likely no possibility of UConn joining a P5 conference and took this option for convenience and rebuild the basketball brand. I suspect that is the only possible silver lining here.
 
I don't think this is just college football. I really do think that Uconn will be in the ACC and basket ball will play a part. The ACC will gain a market, improve regional rivalries for BC and Cuse, hurt the BE by removing a premier program. The queation is, who will the other team be?

I think it will be ND. They now realize that they don't have to have such a brutal schedule. They can scedule cupcakes like Bama does and then just win their SEC division for a clear shot at a play off game.

It's going to happen sooner than most people think or realize. That's my opinion.
 
B1GEast said:
I don't think this is just college football. I really do think that Uconn will be in the ACC and basket ball will play a part. The ACC will gain a market, improve regional rivalries for BC and Cuse, hurt the BE by removing a premier program. The queation is, who will the other team be?

I think it will be ND. They now realize that they don't have to have such a brutal schedule. They can scedule cupcakes like Bama does and then just win their SEC division for a clear shot at a play off game.

It's going to happen sooner than most people think or realize. That's my opinion.
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I hope you are right. I don't see it, for a whole host of reasons that have been discussed here previously.
 
B1GEast said:
I don't think this is just college football. I really do think that Uconn will be in the ACC and basket ball will play a part. The ACC will gain a market, improve regional rivalries for BC and Cuse, hurt the BE by removing a premier program. The queation is, who will the other team be?

I think it will be ND. They now realize that they don't have to have such a brutal schedule. They can scedule cupcakes like Bama does and then just win their SEC division for a clear shot at a play off game.

It's going to happen sooner than most people think or realize. That's my opinion.
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ACC want to hurt the Big East? Does the Big East play football now?

The BE is not a competitor for the media money.

And the Irish ? We all know not to pin hopes on them joining a conference. Satan will be zipping around on ice skates if that happens.
 
billybud said:
ACC want to hurt the Big East? Does the Big East play football now?

The BE is not a competitor for the media money.

And the Irish ? We all know not to pin hopes on them joining a conference. Satan will be zipping around on ice skates if that happens.
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The ACC has always wanted to diminish BE basketball. It's not about competing with the BE in media, it's about grabbing a larger market share.

I'm not pinning my hopes on ND. They are the ones killing themselves with their brutal schedule every year. This year their road to a plus one game was a lot easier playing as a full member in the ACC due to Covid.
 
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B1GEast said:
The ACC has always wanted to diminish BE basketball. It's not about competing with the BE in media, it's about grabbing a larger market share.

I'm not pinning my hopes on ND. They are the ones killing themselves with their brutal schedule every year. This year their road to a plus one game was a lot easier playing as a full member in the ACC due to Covid.
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Grabbing a bigger marketshare. What's that about ? What do you mean ?

The ACC is getting paid for ACCN in New York..is on ESPN in New York....

The ACC, if it expands at all, will be to increase the television media contract...to attempt to not fall further behind the SEC and Big Ten.

The "market" pays for football match ups that attract eyeballs....advertisers like those 3 million watchers a week for 11 or so individual games...

Until the paradigm shifts and big media money switches from football to basketball...and the media contract is not weighted 75-80% football...ACC expansion will be football driven.
 
billybud said:
Grabbing a bigger marketshare. What's that about ? What do you mean ?

The ACC is getting paid for ACCN in New York..is on ESPN in New York....

The ACC, if it expands at all, will be to increase the television media contract...to attempt to not fall further behind the SEC and Big Ten.

The "market" pays for football match ups that attract eyeballs....advertisers like those 3 million watchers a week for 11 or so individual games...

Until the paradigm shifts and big media money switches from football to basketball...and the media contract is not weighted 75-80% football...ACC expansion will be football driven.
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Uconn is a good fit for the ACC. Football drives the bus, but Uconn has a lot of assests. Uconn is followed in all of New England on the basket ball side. Uconn probably has a greater following in MA outside of Boston.

You'd be surprised how much Uconn brings to the table.
 
B1GEast said:
Uconn is a good fit for the ACC. Football drives the bus, but Uconn has a lot of assests. Uconn is followed in all of New England on the basket ball side. Uconn probably has a greater following in MA outside of Boston.

You'd be surprised how much Uconn brings to the table.
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Totally agree!
 
B1GEast said:
Uconn is a good fit for the ACC. Football drives the bus, but Uconn has a lot of assests. Uconn is followed in all of New England on the basket ball side. Uconn probably has a greater following in MA outside of Boston.

You'd be surprised how much Uconn brings to the table.
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LoyalFanCT said:
Totally agree!
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And to a certain degree, that is UConn's fault. Why is it the general public isn't aware of UConn and what it brings to the table? Whose responsibility is it to promote the university and its profile?
 
The BE had a top 10 most watched game last season (2019-20)...2018-19 was all about Duke...

www.sportsmediawatch.com

Season-High For UVA-Duke

Saturday's top five clash between Duke and Virginia scored the highest college basketball ratings of the season. Duke has played in six of the top nine.
www.sportsmediawatch.com www.sportsmediawatch.com

www.sportsmediawatch.com

Last call for college hoops ratings

Ratings for the final games of the truncated 2019-20 college basketball season. CBS ended its slate with one of the top audiences of the season.
www.sportsmediawatch.com www.sportsmediawatch.com
 
Chin Diesel said:
And to a certain degree, that is UConn's fault. Why is it the general public isn't aware of UConn and what it brings to the table? Whose responsibility is it to promote the university and its profile?
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Well, the combined success of the basketball programs is unmatched and the boys are back. UConn really is a perfect fit for the ACC, especially when looking at the membership before it raided the big east and took privates and glorified community colleges. Basketball is obvious. Football would get a huge boost and be elevated to the same level as 85% of the programs in that conference.

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The move into the northeast by the ACC was, in hindsight, not that great a move... BC and Syracuse didn't improve with the competition...

If..a big if..the ACC expands to 16, I could see looks at Cincinnati, UCF, Memphis, and UConn.

Memphis is a top 10 ESPN market....UCF would build a great rivalry for TV with FSU and Miami...UConn has high level basketball.
 
Syracuse fans might be begging to add UConn in a matter of time. Things are bleak up in Canada.
 
This article was written five years ago...and the TV world has been rapidly changing. The idea of adding a team for the TV cable boxes in New York may not be as operative in the post cable market....
 
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Butch said:
Name one program that went FBS/D1A after the 1970s in the P5.
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I am sorry Butch. I am not denying that UConn may have a bigger pull in NY than Cuse BC and RU, and that article clearly supports that. But the fact is, it did not enable UConn to get the invite that we all desire.
 
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buddy said:
I am sorry Butch. I am not denying that UConn may have a bigger pull in NY than Cuse BC and RU, and that article clearly supports that. But the fact is, it did not enable UConn to get the invite that we all desire.
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Humans generally have to make an effort to continue development.
 
Butch said:
Humans generally have to make an effort to continue development.
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In some cases, yes. But sometimes things are out of one's control. Sometimes timing in life is everything and if one misses out on an opportunity, it is unlikely that one will get a second, or third, chance.
 
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