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ND Comes Back from 16 Down to Beat Vols in Knoxville, 74-69



Irish lost yet another player -- Cass Prosper -- to injury and looked out of sorts in the first half.
Coach Ivey went big in second half, switching 6'3" Maddy Westbeld to the 3 and moving 6'5" Nat Marshall to the high post, joining 6'4" Kylee Watson at center. It worked: Westbeld and Marshall scored 15 points each and Maddy had 10 rebounds, while Marshall had 7 offensive rebounds. Solid road win for the Irish.
 
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Dillon77 said:
ND Comes Back from 16 Down to Beat Vols in Knoxville, 74-69



Irish lost yet another player -- Cass Prosper -- to injury and looked out of sorts in the first half.
Coach Ivey went big in second half, switching 6'3" Maddy Westbeld to the 3 and moving 6'5" Nat Marshall to the high post, joining 6'4" Kylee Watson at center. It worked: Westbeld and Marshall scored 15 points each and Maddy had 10 rebounds, while Marshall had 7 offensive rebounds. Solid road win for the Irish.
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Entertaining game. The grit from ND was impressive. Coach Ivey's adjustments at half time worked really well. Nice to see Marshall being chosen as the player of the game.
 
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cancontent said:
Entertaining game. The grit from ND was impressive. Coach Ivey's adjustments at half time worked really well. Nice to see Marshall being chosen as the player of the game.
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Nat Marshall -- finally -- has her legs under her, after all those injuries and rehab. For someone 6'5" she's quick and not only runs the floor well on the break, but can get out to challenge shooters at the arc without running into the stands. ;)

The other reason it worked having Nat at the 4 is Maddy Westbeld can play the 4, 5 and and the 3.
 
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Vowelguy said:
Vandy keeping things close with Pack
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The game had a vibe similar to our game with Rhode Island a couple of weeks ago, where NC State didn't have a lead of more than 3 points until the last couple of minutes. Vanderbilt has missed a handful of layups. Then, Saniya Rivers took over and helped NC State build a little halftime lead.

I don't think Vanderbilt will finish near the bottom of the SEC this season.
 
Wow Tennessee lost to ND when ND was without Miles, Citron, AND Prosper? Yikes. I get that Tennessee is missing Jackson, but sheesh.

BTW the Tennessee board is in total meltdown if anyone wants to go enjoy the show. There are a plethora of comments (like a LOT) that would be instantly deleted off the BY. Just brutal.
 
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Yikes! NC State led Vanderbilt 62-36...and then, in the blink of an eye, Vanderbilt had made it an 8-point game after a 5 minute FG drought and a slew of turnovers by NC State. NC State got very sloppy toward the end of the game. I'll take the victory but this was not the overall best showing by NC State tonight. Add in 12 missed FT and 17 turnovers...Coach Moore won't be happy.
 
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Tennessee put me in the uncomfortable and morally questionable position of rooting for Notre Dame.

S - E - C ... it just means MORE ... when they blow a 16-point lead and lose to a team missing 3 starters.
 
LETTERL said:
Yikes! NC State led Vanderbilt 62-36...and then, in the blink of an eye, Vanderbilt had made it an 8-point game after a 5 minute FG drought and a slew of turnovers by NC State. NC State got very sloppy toward the end of the game. I'll take the victory but this was not the overall best showing by NC State tonight. Add in 12 missed FT and 17 turnovers...Coach Moore won't be happy.
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Neither would I if I were in his shoes.
 
Miami tops #21 Mississippi State.
Florida beats Georgia Tech.
 
Plebe said:
Tennessee put me in the uncomfortable and morally questionable position of rooting for Notre Dame.

S - E - C ... it just means MORE ... when they blow a 16-point lead and lose to a team missing 3 starters.
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It’s another day in the office for coach harper with that nonsense.

I like coach harper a lot, I just don’t see her getting TN over the hump though. I feel her teams are way too soft in the big games, blow too many leads and never seem to come out on top of matchups like this. I know Rickea being out hurts them badly but with that ND was missing 2-3 starters and they were at home
 
nwhoopfan said:
That sounds awfully familiar. Didn't Tennessee collapse and give up a big lead against Notre Dame a few years ago?
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Yup. ND came back from 23 in South Bend. Marina Mabrey and Arike Ogunbowale were unconscious from deep. That win may have been the catalyst for that NC team-run in 2018.
 
Hester42 said:
It’s another day in the office for coach harper with that nonsense.

I like coach harper a lot, I just don’t see her getting TN over the hump though. I feel her teams are way too soft in the big games, blow too many leads and never seem to come out on top of matchups like this. I know Rickea being out hurts them badly but with that ND was missing 2-3 starters and they were at home
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Coach Harper is plagued by bad decision making in the final minutes of close games. I thought it happened again tonight where Puckett ended up shooting two threes over the last few possessions because the called play was not working. Yikes!
 
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Dillon77 said:
Yup. ND came back from 23 in South Bend. Marina Mabrey and Arike Ogunbowale were unconscious from deep. That win may have been the catalyst for that NC team-run in 2018.
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Okay, a few years longer ago than I was thinking.
 
nwhoopfan said:
Okay, a few years longer ago than I was thinking.
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Maybe you're also thinking of their loss last year to Ohio State, where they led by double digits in the first half before being run off the court in 2H.
 
The end of this Louisville-Ole Miss game is atrocious. Both teams very much deserve to lose.
 
Louisville won. Really really really unimpressed by both teams. Terrible execution, bad shooting, Ole Miss couldn't hit a FT to save their lives. Missed 7 straight to start Q4.
 
nwhoopfan said:
The end of this Louisville-Ole Miss game is atrocious. Both teams very much deserve to lose.
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Good lord, that was worse than atrocious.

51 fouls called; 55 free throws taken. Ole Miss lost it at the charity stripe: 13 of 29! Louisville made 25 of 36.
 
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Good win for Notre Dame. Anything they can get with both Citron and Miles out is gravy. For the first time, Hidalgo didn’t look great but still finished with a nice line. ND might have something going with the jumbo lineup although I’m not sold on Kylee Watson. Marshall looked great, she gives them some athleticism, height, and speed they otherwise lack in the post.
 
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Dillon77 said:
Nat Marshall -- finally -- has her legs under her, after all those injuries and rehab. For someone 6'5" she's quick and not only runs the floor well on the break, but can get out to challenge shooters at the arc without running into the stands. ;)

The other reason it worked having Nat at the 4 is Maddy Westbeld can play the 4, 5 and and the 3.
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When Maddy is on she can play the 1 2 and 345. But she needs to get mad to play her game.
 
nwhoopfan said:
That sounds awfully familiar. Didn't Tennessee collapse and give up a big lead against Notre Dame a few years ago?
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Yes in 2018 ND came back from 23 at South Bend. Then went on to win a National Championship. Hope this is a good omen.
 
Plebe said:
Maybe you're also thinking of their loss last year to Ohio State, where they led by double digits in the first half before being run off the court in 2H.
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I do enjoy a Tennessee melt down, whoever it comes against. I was definitely thinking of a game against the Domers, just the passage of time kind of surprised me. I didn't remember the specifics of the players who were on the teams at the time.
 
DallasDomer said:
When Maddy is on she can play the 1 2 and 345. But she needs to get mad to play her game.
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I'm about as big a fan of the Westbeld sisters as the Mabreys (I, am, after all living in New Jersey),
but Maddy's effectiveness as a three-level scorer is primarily, in my opinion, at the front line spots. Can she spot up from deep like a 2? Yes. Can she help bring up the ball against the press or on the break? Yes. But that doesn't make her a guard. Well-rounded? Yup. One of the best.....forwards. ;)

BTW, KK Bransford also has a baller's bag of skills at multiple positions (1-2-3), which is really helpful given Soni Citron-- the ND queen of diversified skill sets -- is still out.
 
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The Miami-Miss State game was interesting to watch. Miami's bench scored over 30 points, primarily thanks to Hylton and Lattimore. Day-Wilson was more disciplined than I've seen in a while which was good to see. Lattimore looked more like the player some thought she had the potential to be coming out of high school. Will be watching to see how she handles tougher competition in the paint during the season.

Park-Lane definitely looks like she can handle SEC play. Miss State's lack of depth hurt them towards the end. Not having Carter available hurt. Playing with a bench of 7 players (I think) when Miami could consistently rotate players through wore them down in my opinion.
 
I watched the Miami-Miss State game. Impressed with Miami's team in how they moved the ball on offense. Very impressed with their ball movement. Also, multiple guards who were able to penetrate and find the open 3-point shooter. Lastly, Miami hit some big 3's. Miami is a dangerous team.
 
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