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WestCoastHusky said:
I think alums of these schools will demand football be played because that's what they are used to for the last 100 years. They will threaten schools with no donation etc just to force the school to play football. Schools will oblige because big schools will pay for body bag games etc. just to fill the schedule with Ws.
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Agreed... Football and other athletics to varying degrees at various schools are the best marketing tools a school can use. The biggest/multi million dollar donation days for top flight football schools come on their top football game days.
 
WestCoastHusky said:
ACC expansion sets the bottom for conference expansion going forward. Going forward, teams will whore themselves to get into specific conferences or groups just to get in. It will get really ugly like corporate M&As etc with deals like the SMU just did. It is a reflection of the overall deteriorating American culture where everything is for profit, and the winner takes all with losers be damned.

I am sick of these conferences and media networks acting like Mafia dons that decide who is in and who is out in the most cutthroat way possible. These conferences have way too much control over college football, and it should not be this way.

I can't wait for the day every school is paid for its worth vs. sponging off the conference with schools like RU and BCU. The ND indy in football with regional sports in a conference is the model for the future. UCONN in some ways is already there with our current model. If ND can get a huge streaming plus linear deal for football, I think it will set the precedent for other big programs that might follow. Once teams like Alabama and Ohio State bail on the conferences, it will be a totally new world where every school will be paid based on their own media deal vs. as a member of the conference.
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Huge difference with UConn vs ND, UConn is Indy in football out of necessity (our primary conference does not sponsor it)... ND is Indy because tradition and holier than thou bullcrap
 
greenday61892 said:
Huge difference with UConn vs ND, UConn is Indy in football out of necessity (our primary conference does not sponsor it)... ND is Indy because tradition and holier than thou bullcrap
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Regardless the reason, ND's indy media deal with set the basis for other programs that can attract a lot of eyeballs.

I believe it will be a steaming comment like Amazon or Apple that will start the trend to offer individual programs vs. deals with conferences.
 
pj said:
Instead of a "home and home", one in California and one in North Carolina, you do back-to-back games in Dallas, one is home for the California team and one for the North Carolina team.

It's still one flight and hotel stay for each team each year, but the flight is half-country rather than full-country.

Not sure saving 2-3 hours of flying each way is enough to make that worthwhile.
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It's a stupid idea because in the end, both teams are actually spending more time traveling. Each travel trip requires traveling to and from the airport, getting through the airport, and actual flying time. Instead of one team making one full trip, you have two teams making a trip half the distance. But two teams wasting all of that extra travel time instead of one. What a waste.
 
The flight from Raleigh to Syracuse is 4 hours (3 hours, 56 minutes) according to Expedia flights..

Raleigh to Dallas is 3 hours 16 minutes...same source.

And Raleigh to Tallahassee is 3 hours, 38 minutes
 
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billybud said:
The flight from Raleigh to Syracuse is 4 hours (3 hours, 56 minutes) according to Expedia flights..

Raleigh to Dallas is 3 hours 16 minutes...same source.

And Raleigh to Tallahassee is 3 hours, 38 minutes
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Nobody. Here. Cares. About. FSU. Or. What. It’s. Fans. Think. About. S-M-Freaking-U. The ACC is an Amway scam and FSU is a has been. Go whine about the deal you signed and justify adding 3 teams that water down every single sport elsewhere.
 
WestHartHusk said:
Nobody. Here. Cares. About. FSU. Or. What. It’s. Fans. Think. About. S-M-Freaking-U. The ACC is an Amway scam and FSU is a has been. Go whine about the deal you signed and justify adding 3 teams that water down every single sport elsewhere.
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FSU just smoked a top 5 LSU team on primetime TV tonight
 
WestCoastHusky said:
I am hoping FSU go indy and sign a steaming deal with Amazon or something.
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When the Big contract comes up in 2029, there isn't going to be a big increase. Those days have gone by, in reality when things go to streaming and not locked in cable, the next contracts will be a lot less.
 
WestCoastHusky said:
I know he is a SEC homer. He called the demise of the PAC-12 earlier this year.

fansided.com

Paul Finebaum 'congratulates' ACC for essentially leading to its own demise with Cal, Stanford, SMU additions

For Paul Finebaum to crush the ACC, an ESPN product for the most part, that speaks volumes. You better believe Paul Finebaum was all fired up on the first seaso
fansided.com fansided.com
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Per Finebaum:

"I just want to congratulate the ACC for essentially voting out Clemson, North Carolina and Florida State because after what happened Friday with the admission of SMU, Cal and Stanford, they have essentially given those three a ticket out".

How does adding SMU, Cal and Stanford give them a ticket out? It did not change the GOR.
 
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jostar1 said:
Per Finebaum:

"I just want to congratulate the ACC for essentially voting out Clemson, North Carolina and Florida State because after what happened Friday with the admission of SMU, Cal and Stanford, they have essentially given those three a ticket out".

How does adding SMU, Cal and Stanford give them a ticket out? It did not change the GOR.
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Yeah it's not a ticket out so much as a middle finger to them.
 
It gets the ACC-ESPN a late night window and it gets the ACCN into Cali and Texas. We should offer to take no media dollars for the next 13 years for a ACC invite. We will earn plenty of money from the ACC incentive pool.
 
jostar1 said:
Per Finebaum:

"I just want to congratulate the ACC for essentially voting out Clemson, North Carolina and Florida State because after what happened Friday with the admission of SMU, Cal and Stanford, they have essentially given those three a ticket out".

How does adding SMU, Cal and Stanford give them a ticket out? It did not change the GOR.
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I could really care less what Finebaum has to say about anything.

Finebaum is one of the worst human beings in sports media in the last two decades. He has blatantly turned a blind eye to widespread cheating and occasionally illegal behavior by SEC schools because SEC football dominance drove ratings and page hits for him. This cheating was a really big deal, and moved hundreds of millions of revenue every year to the SEC.

With NIL, everyone can pay their players, so "cheating" no longer exists and is certainly not a competitive advantage, and we are seeing the end of SEC dominance. We are also seeing other cheater programs, like Louisville and Clemson, quickly fade back to the pack. It is funny how little coverage the impact of NIL gets on the cheater conference and other programs, but of course acknowledging that the game has completely changed in college football and basketball would be to also admit that Finebaum and others in the media were covering up the cheating in the first place.
 
NE Football said:
It gets the ACC-ESPN a late night window and it gets the ACCN into Cali and Texas. We should offer to take no media dollars for the next 13 years for a ACC invite. We will earn plenty of money from the ACC incentive pool.
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UConn is better off going to the CFP directly and asking for a G5 pro rata share of the revenue. UConn will get it. The CFP is on such shaky legal ground that they will go along with any reasonable request.

There is also about a 90% chance that the Big East blows away the ACC in per capita NCAA Tournament units for the remainder of the decade.
 
baggerbob said:
When the Big contract comes up in 2029, there isn't going to be a big increase. Those days have gone by, in reality when things go to streaming and not locked in cable, the next contracts will be a lot less.
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Whatever the future looks like, both the B1G and SEC will hold the cards and make much more than everyone else.

If FOX, NBC and CBS are still looking for live sports content at the end of the decade, they will pay the B1G the big bucks. Likewise for ESPN and the SEC. Maybe more of that moves to streaming options, or is offered in both TV and streaming options, but those two conferences will smoke everyone else in terms of media revenue.
 
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WrenchFan69 said:
What a reasonable and sustainable world we live in
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definitely the sign of a healthy society when someone can lose hundreds of millions of dollars (for SMU sports) and not bat an eye
 
A room full of boosters all worth 1000 million or more...whew !

And folks talked about Bob Knight and Oregon.
 
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