Aaron Rodgers to Pittsburgh

[Deepster]

As a Jets fan? I'm pretty indifferent here. I don't dislike him but I am glad to not have the drama that comes along with him. I'll always wonder what might have happened if he didn't blow his achilles out, but that's life as a Jets fan.

On the good side? He's still Aaron Rodgers. He showed flashes at points last year.
On the bad side? There were lots of times he looked really immobile. Part of that could have been the Jets OL, part is his age with a retooled achilles.

Feels a lot like Namath on the Rams, Favre on the Vikings.

 

[ShakyTheMohel]

How good is the Steeler’s offensive line? That will be the key to his success. I am surprised that Tomlin was interested in bringing in a distraction like Rodgers. This feels like the Jets last year…a desperate attempt to catch lightning in a bottle. It may or may not work. Rodgers still has some gas in the tank, but he needs a strong offensive line and a coach who will let him run his own offense.

I do wonder if the Steelers asked him to shut up on MacAfee.

 

[Scoe]

How good is the Steeler’s offensive line? That will be the key to his success. I am surprised that Tomlin was interested in bringing in a distraction like Rodgers. This feels like the Jets last year…a desperate attempt to catch lightning in a bottle. It may or may not work. Rodgers still has some gas in the tank, but he needs a strong offensive line and a coach who will let him run his own offense.

I do wonder if the Steelers asked him to shut up on MacAfee.

Would imagine Tomlin's job is on the line. Who else are the Steelers gonna start Mason Rudolph, Will Howard? Would probably been looking at a 7-9 season at best.

It's a risk taking business, the Rodgers distraction is a part of the deal with the on field production. DK Metcalf doesn't go to the Steelers if Rodgers isn't in play.

 

[Deepster]

Would imagine Tomlin's job is on the line. Who else are the Steelers gonna start Mason Rudolph, Will Howard? Would probably been looking at a 7-9 season at best.

It's a risk taking business, the Rodgers distraction is a part of the deal with the on field production. DK Metcalf doesn't go to the Steelers if Rodgers isn't in play.

Why didn’t they just keep Russ Wilson? Hes better than Rodgers at this point, in my opinion.

 

[Scoe]

Why didn’t they just keep Russ Wilson? Hes better than Rodgers at this point, in my opinion.

It's a higher risk, higher potential reward move. Steelers had zero percent chance of winning a Super Bowl with Wilson with Rodgers still probably a very low chance of it but still a chance albeit as a Super Bowl dark horse at best. Rodgers had 28 tds to 11 ints coming off a torn Achilles and played all 17 games.

As a Giants fan I'm happy with Wilson, it's low risk, and seems like a solid mentor to Jaxson Dart.

 

[Deepster]

It's a higher risk, higher potential reward move. Steelers had zero percent chance of winning a Super Bowl with Wilson with Rodgers still probably a very low chance of it but still a chance albeit as a Super Bowl dark horse at best. Rodgers had 28 tds to 11 ints coming off a torn Achilles and played all 17 games.

As a Giants fan I'm happy with Wilson, it's low risk, and seems like a solid mentor to Jaxson Dart.

Not sure how many games you watched Rodgers last year. I watched them all and Pittsburgh has zero chance at a Super Bowl with Rodgers.

 

[ShakyTheMohel]

Not sure how many games you watched Rodgers last year. I watched them all and Pittsburgh has zero chance at a Super Bowl with Rodgers.

Yeah…WIlon or Fields gives the Steelers a better chance to win a Superbowl than Rodgers does.

 

[HuskyHawk]

Why didn’t they just keep Russ Wilson? Hes better than Rodgers at this point, in my opinion.

I don't think he fits the offense as well, but it's a valid point. Pittsburgh needed a bridge to next year's draft. That's what this is. They will be a playoff contender and once you're in that group anything can happen.

 

[Waquoit]

So, Rogers just announced that he’s married a mystery woman. I know life can get messy but c’mon. He feels uncomfortable now announcing the name of his wife? Totally normal.

 

[Deepster]

He really is an enigma. I knew a little about him before he joined the Jets, then followed him very closely for 2 years. If you listen to him on a Joe Rogan podcast, there are times he's absolutely fascinating. There are also times (a lot more of them) where he sounds like a maniac.

I still don't get the move here by Pittsburgh. The only thing I can think of is Tomlin's desire to always have a winning record and that seems foolish because constantly hovering just above .500 only means you aren't likely to get generational talent via the draft.

 

[Scoe]

Not sure how many games you watched Rodgers last year. I watched them all and Pittsburgh has zero chance at a Super Bowl with Rodgers.

I watched enough to know that he looked like a guy coming off a torn Achilles. He still put up 28 tds to 11 int nearly 4,000 yards and played all 17 games. Those are far better stats than Wilson and Fields.

Steelers are banking off an ex mvp. I'm not a Steelers fan so I don't even care that much.

 

[Scoe]

He really is an enigma. I knew a little about him before he joined the Jets, then followed him very closely for 2 years. If you listen to him on a Joe Rogan podcast, there are times he's absolutely fascinating. There are also times (a lot more of them) where he sounds like a maniac.

I still don't get the move here by Pittsburgh. The only thing I can think of is Tomlin's desire to always have a winning record and that seems foolish because constantly hovering just above .500 only means you aren't likely to get generational talent via the draft.

It's easy for you to say when your jobs not on the line.

 

[ShakyTheMohel]

He really is an enigma. I knew a little about him before he joined the Jets, then followed him very closely for 2 years. If you listen to him on a Joe Rogan podcast, there are times he's absolutely fascinating. There are also times (a lot more of them) where he sounds like a maniac.

I still don't get the move here by Pittsburgh. The only thing I can think of is Tomlin's desire to always have a winning record and that seems foolish because constantly hovering just above .500 only means you aren't likely to get generational talent via the draft.

There are always coaches who think they are the one who will catch magic in a bottle with a qb. But I never thought of Tomlin as a coach who would bring on drama like Rodgers.

I think we will learn a lot about Fields and Rodgers that first game against each other. WIll Rodgers be able to avoic the rush? WIll Fields improve his decision making?

 

[Deepster]

It's easy for you to say when your jobs not on the line.

Oh sure. Because if Pittsburgh ever did decide to fire Tomlin, there wouldn't be 10 teams immediately banging on his door.....

 

[Deepster]

There are always coaches who think they are the one who will catch magic in a bottle with a qb. But I never thought of Tomlin as a coach who would bring on drama like Rodgers.

I think we will learn a lot about Fields and Rodgers that first game against each other. WIll Rodgers be able to avoic the rush? WIll Fields improve his decision making?

With the receivers Pitt has and the offensive talent they've let go, I'd be pretty surprised if Rodgers lit up the Jets defense.

 

[fireford]

Why didn’t they just keep Russ Wilson? Hes better than Rodgers at this point, in my opinion.

You may be correct about Wilson being better than Rodgers right now (although probably not by much). There was friction between Wilson and OC Arthur Smith. Wilson started changing plays at the line of scrimmage and that didn't go over well. This can get swept under the rug when you're winning but when you crash and burn and end the season on a 5-game losing streak (and lose badly in the process) it only compounds the issue. Steelers saw the situation as too toxic and decided to turn the page on Wilson.

 

[Scoe]

Oh sure. Because if Pittsburgh ever did decide to fire Tomlin, there wouldn't be 10 teams immediately banging on his door.....

Ya so what, I doubt Tomlin is intending on being fired.

 

[Deepster]

Ya so what, I doubt Tomlin is intending on being fired.

You said "it's easy for you to say when your jobs not on the line". I said Tomlin doesn't have to worry about job security and you said "I doubt he's intending on being fired". Pick a lane.

 

[Deepster]

You may be correct about Wilson being better than Rodgers right now (although probably not by much). There was friction between Wilson and OC Arthur Smith. Wilson started changing plays at the line of scrimmage and that didn't go over well. This can get swept under the rug when you're winning but when you crash and burn and end the season on a 5-game losing streak (and lose badly in the process) it only compounds the issue. Steelers saw the situation as too toxic and decided to turn the page on Wilson.

Interesting. I didn't know that about the OC. That said, not sure Rodgers is going to just run the plays that come through his helmet every play.....LOL

 

[ShakyTheMohel]

Interesting. I didn't know that about the OC. That said, not sure Rodgers is going to just run the plays that come through his helmet every play.....LOL

That has always been Rodgers issue…he thinks he knows better than the OC and will run his own plays. That may have worked with a patsy like Hackett….but not with anyone else.

 

[HuskyHawk]

That has always been Rodgers issue…he thinks he knows better than the OC and will run his own plays. That may have worked with a patsy like Hackett….but not with anyone else.

Yeah, just like that bum Peyton Manning, and every great QB before that.

There's no offense that isn't improved by appropriate changes by the QB at the line. The caveat is that sometimes the OC has a strategy that may require a less effective play be run to achieve longer term objectives like setting up other plays or tiring the defense. Rogers is smart enough to be good at that, but there has to be a shared understanding of those overall goals. It's collaborative when it's working properly. Sounds like Wilson wasn't on the same page as the OC in Pittsburgh.

 

[Scoe]

You said "it's easy for you to say when your jobs not on the line". I said Tomlin doesn't have to worry about job security and you said "I doubt he's intending on being fired". Pick a lane.

Jobs are on the line all the time, it's the nfl. You took that quote out of context. I see in post #14 you tried to set me up into a trap there, not that it was your intention as you took my post #12 literally which I admit I could've explained better.

Mason Rudolph/Will Howard or Aaron Rodgers hmm tough choice. Who do ya think Steelers fans would rather have at qb.

 

[Deepster]

Mason Rudolph/Will Howard or Aaron Rodgers hmm tough choice. Who do ya think Steelers fans would rather have at qb.

Where are you getting that? They had Russ Wilson and Fields on the roster and chose to hopefully maybe get Rodgers in June.

 

[ShakyTheMohel]

Yeah, just like that bum Peyton Manning, and every great QB before that.

There's no offense that isn't improved by appropriate changes by the QB at the line. The caveat is that sometimes the OC has a strategy that may require a less effective play be run to achieve longer term objectives like setting up other plays or tiring the defense. Rogers is smart enough to be good at that, but there has to be a shared understanding of those overall goals. It's collaborative when it's working properly. Sounds like Wilson wasn't on the same page as the OC in Pittsburgh.

Yes….quarterbacks can check off the play. But Rodgers does it incessantly.

The Jets have Breece Hall and they threw the ball the 5th most in the nfl last year. Good teams don’t do that. Many a drive last year stalled out as Rodgers checked off of run plays to throw the ball away as he tried to run from d lineman.

 

[HuskyHawk]

Yes….quarterbacks can check off the play. But Rodgers does it incessantly.

The Jets have Breece Hall and they threw the ball the 5th most in the nfl last year. Good teams don’t do that. Many a drive last year stalled out as Rodgers checked off of run plays to throw the ball away as he tried to run from d lineman.

I didn't watch enough Jets games but yes, they didn't run enough. If that's AR and not the OC, ok that's an example of a QB working against the game plan. But the comments were about why not keep Wilson and I think it's because he did that in Pittsburgh. I believe Rodgers will be better aligned there.

 

[Deepster]

Yes….quarterbacks can check off the play. But Rodgers does it incessantly.

The Jets have Breece Hall and they threw the ball the 5th most in the nfl last year. Good teams don’t do that. Many a drive last year stalled out as Rodgers checked off of run plays to throw the ball away as he tried to run from d lineman.

The Jets just didn't move the ball in any way, shape or form last year. They couldn't run the ball. They couldn't protect Rodgers. He couldn't move out of trouble and throw downfield to weapons like Adams and Wilson. Little checkdowns or passes under 10 yds.

At one point in the early half of the season, he had similar numbers to Zach Wilson the year before.

I don't think he'll be any better than last season stats-wise. He has a better line but far worse weapons. He'll show flashes of MVP Aaron but, at the end of the day, he's cooked.

 

[ShakyTheMohel]

The Jets just didn't move the ball in any way, shape or form last year. They couldn't run the ball. They couldn't protect Rodgers. He couldn't move out of trouble and throw downfield to weapons like Adams and Wilson. Little checkdowns or passes under 10 yds.

At one point in the early half of the season, he had similar numbers to Zach Wilson the year before.

I don't think he'll be any better than last season stats-wise. He has a better line but far worse weapons. He'll show flashes of MVP Aaron but, at the end of the day, he's cooked.

He will probably start strong in the season…of course he will pass for 400 yards and 4 TDs agaisnt the Jets….but his age will catch up with hiim like last year. He will get banged up and get even less mobile.

I will admit he is tough….he played through a lot of injuries last year. But that might have been to the Jets detriminet. Taylor was probably better than a banged up immobile Rodgers.

 

[Dove]

@storrsroars

Thoughts?

I really like Tomlin and I hope this works out and gets the Steelers back to the playoffs.

 

[storrsroars]

@storrsroars

Thoughts?

I really like Tomlin and I hope this works out and gets the Steelers back to the playoffs.

I think Mason Rudolph was the better choice.

Rooneys need to move on from Tomlin, but they have a long history of being loyal to a fault. Probably another 9-10 win season and zero playoff wins, as has been the case for a decade.

 

[Waquoit]

By his own admission, Rodgers never connected with his spirit animal last season. I'm sure his recent nuptials were calibrated to aid his journey. That could be good news for the Steelers.