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Guapo said:
You’re getting caught up in semantics of a conference name. The Big East does have a semblance of geographic continuity and generally the lay out of the schools does make sense.
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I fail to see the "geographic continuity" of any conference with teams over 1,000 miles apart, except west of the Mississippi where distances between schools are inherently greater than in the eastern half of the country. You seem to see everything about the "new" Big East with blinders on because you're so committed to the idea of UCONN joining it.
 
Dear boneyard,

this is pathetic. i'd be embarrassed for everyone here if i had any pride, or even hope, left in this school and state.

AAC or NBE? it doesn't matter anymore. uconn is just a glorified mid-major. either accept that or find a new team to root for.

sincerely,
yukonfan4

P.S.- the latter option is better for your health. trust me, i'm a doctor.
 
UConnNick said:
I fail to see the "geographic continuity" of any conference with teams over 1,000 miles apart, except west of the Mississippi where distances between schools are inherently greater than in the eastern half of the country. You seem to see everything about the "new" Big East with blinders on because you're so committed to the idea of UCONN joining it.
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Im actually not that committed to UConn joining the NBE; I’m perfectly fine with them hanging in the AAC till 2023/24 but once that CR wave passes and, if UConn is still left out, than its time.

And, not to be a super annoying but “geographic continuity” has nothing to do with distance. Fayetteville, AR is a long way from Gainesville, FL but I think Arkansas fits perfectly fine in the SEC.

BUT that does remind me that Missouri in the SEC is very dumb and makes no sense, so add that to WVU and the AAC
 
yukonfan4 said:
Dear boneyard,

this is pathetic. i'd be embarrassed for everyone here if i had any pride, or even hope, left in this school and state.

AAC or NBE? it doesn't matter anymore. uconn is just a glorified mid-major. either accept that or find a new team to root for.

sincerely,
yukonfan4

P.S.- the latter option is better for your health. trust me, i'm a doctor.
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Thanks for the advice, Dr. Sunshine.
 
UConnNick said:
I fail to see the "geographic continuity" of any conference with teams over 1,000 miles apart, except west of the Mississippi where distances between schools are inherently greater than in the eastern half of the country.
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You're talking about every major sports conference in the country.
 
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UConnNick said:
That definitely puts Cincinnati squarely in the commuter school category, although "commuter" may be the wrong use of word. What really matters is the connection a particular student feels toward the institution. Large enrollment schools with 70 percent or more students living off campus are more likely going to have a less interested and involved alumni base, despite their huge numbers of alums. The more students you had closely connected to the school living on campus, or within walking distance perhaps, tends to make for a longer lasting bond with the school. That's why the major state flagships with a predominace of on campus residential students tend to get more loyal and supportive alumni than the huge urban commuter schools get. The commuters drive in, drive out, and largely view the school as nothing more than a means to an end. After graduation they move on and are less likely to support the school.
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The people saying UConn is similar to the schools in the AAC don't seem to realize they're denigrating UConn. UConn is really nothing like them.
 
superjohn said:
The people saying UConn is similar to the schools in the AAC don't seem to realize they're denigrating UConn. UConn is really nothing like them.
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and even less like the schools of the "Big East"
 
John said:
and even less like the schools of the "Big East"
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Don't really agree with this. Big East schools are small and Catholic but overall they are better academic schools than AAC schools, culturally much more similar to UConn, and they share a lot of the same applicant pool. There certainly aren't many kids who apply to UConn while also applying to Tulsa, East Carolina, SMU, Houston etc.
 
superjohn said:
Don't really agree with this. Big East schools are small and Catholic but overall they are better academic schools than AAC schools, culturally much more similar to UConn, and they share a lot of the same applicant pool. There certainly aren't many kids who apply to UConn while also applying to Tulsa, East Carolina, SMU, Houston etc.
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Preach.
 
This is not an academics fan board. These schools are second tier athletic departments. Not particularly appealing.
 
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junglehusky said:
Would love to see #'s of CT high school grads that apply to Nova, PC, Georgetown, and then BU, BC, heck even UNH and URI, compared to those that apply to SMU, UH, Wichita, ECU, Tulane, Tulsa, UCF.
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I found some stats on enrollments of Connecticut kids by college:

BC 177, PC 184, BU 234, Northeastern 209, UMass 216, Vermont 214, URI 208, UNH 106, Syracuse 146, Penn St 103, Delaware 87

Temple, 60, Tulane 45, SMU 29

I found 4 other colleges people applied to as well as the listed school. For example, the 4 most popular schools people applied to UConn applied to according to US News were: BU, Northeastern, Syracuse, and Penn State.

ACC Schools:
BC: Georgetown, Northeastern, Notre Dame, Virginia
Notre Dame: BC, Duke, Harvard, Northwestern

Big East Northeastern Schools:
PC: BC, Fairfield, Holy Cross, Fordham
St. John's: SUNY Binghamton, CUNY, Fordham, NYU
Georgetown: BC, Duke, NYU, Penn
Seton Hall: Farleigh Dickinson, Montclair St., Kean, Rutgers
Villanova: BC, Georgetown, Notre Dame, Penn
Marquette: Loyola Chicago, St. Louis, Illinois, Minnesota

Other
Fairfield: BC, Fordham, Loyola Maryland, PC

It doesn't seem that UConn is really competing with the Catholic Big East schools for students although there has to be some overlap. And, I don't think kids from the South are applying in large numbers to UConn.
 
brasssbonanzaa said:
77% of students live off campus at Cincinnati
82% live off campus at UCF
82% live off campus at USF
83% live off campus at UH
80% live off campus at ECU
94% live off campus at Temple
86% live off campus at Memphis
89% live off campus at Wichita

35% live off campus at Tulsa
46% live off campus at SMU
52% live off campus at Tulane
34% live off campus at UConn

Of course, not all of those who live off campus commute, but when the numbers for those large public schools are all 77%+ it indicates there is a very large portion of the student body who commutes.
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This is misleading though. It's entirely dependent upon how much housing is offered by the school. Is the University of Texas a commuter school? Because 82% of its students live off campus. How about Wisconsin? 75% off campus. University of Florida? 78% off campus.
 
blue93 said:
This is misleading though. It's entirely dependent upon how much housing is offered by the school. Is the University of Texas a commuter school? Because 82% of its students live off campus. How about Wisconsin? 75% off campus. University of Florida? 78% off campus.
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Exactly. This is where the hangup is. Large universities have the vast majority living off campus.
 
Development has something to do with it...a major university may have more campus housing and less off campus development then a university in an area of a gazillion just off campus apartments...

Florida, FSU, Texas are ringed with apartment complexes catering to students.
 
Guapo said:
Talk to a PC or Nova alum; I promise you have a lot more in common than with a ECU or Memphis alum
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I wouldn't mind if the students started chanting safety school at the other school's players and fans.
 
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superjohn said:
You're talking about every major sports conference in the country.
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AOL/time warner and the old AT&T were such successes. Just because it is in vogue and big doesn’t make it a business success. I have basically been on the sidelines for this discussion as I don’t pretend to have access to the information that university presidents have access to. I could see arguments for both points of view. I just go back to rule number one as my barometer.
 
Guapo said:
Im not sure how the NBE has a worse media deal. Sure it’s for less overall money per year but in a scenario where we drop football and join the NBE we rid ourselves of the massive money pit that is the football program.
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So instead of the word "worse" can we agree that the amount paid to each conference member is less than that of the American? Other words that come to mind are "smaller" or "lesser."

(Regardless though, especially when you realize the NBE games are on FS1 and FS2, "worse" is probably a fair term.)
 
SubInATub said:
Everyone is crying NY market with SNY etc. The NY market watches the Big East. MSG hecking extended the Big East tourney there until 2028!
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You do realize that BET attendance and TV ratings are different things right?
 
superjohn said:
He thinks the best thing for Uconn's future is sharing a conference with UMass, Buffalo, and Old Dominion. There isn't a ton of thinking going on here.
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Don’t forget tolls st the rent. To raise revenue!!!
 
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superjohn said:
This just really isn't accurate, Cincinnati is a commuter school and all UConn has in common with these schools is size. UConn is a lot better academically than most of them and culturally they are nothing alike. While most of the Big East schools are significantly smaller and Catholic culturally they are more similar and overall the league is better academically than the AAC.
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Cincinnati has top 50 departments in several of its schools and it also has a research profile that is very high.

Where do you people get this stuff? In a highly populated state like Ohio, it's the second biggest school.
 
TRest said:
Why would your future scenario birth more tiny, "privileged" colleges like Bennington? I would think that model will also be floundering in the future.
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Bennington is an elite finishing school. It stopped being a real college a long time ago. It became a school for kids who had nowhere else to go. When Bennington shut its doors for a year, everyone fled. When it reopened, it reopened as a glorified prep school. For many years, you couldn't find it in any of the rankings. I haven't checked recently.
 
upstater said:
Cincinnati has top 50 departments in several of its schools and it also has a research profile that is very high.

Where do you people get this stuff? In a highly populated state like Ohio, it's the second biggest school.
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"Commuter school" is an outdated term for lots of students living off-campus and lack of campus and student identity.

UCF probably has 10k students living in apartments exclusive to UCF students across the street from the campus. They aren't lacking for socializing and campus culture.
 
Do we know what schools voted for/against the deal? Would anyone be surprised if we voted for it?
 
The Private Student Housing - including Boston - are full. And parents are figuring out how to afford them. Somehow ... the market clears.

What’s driving that? My view is Girls - Dads want their daughters safe and in luxury. Every woman student is indulged with their own bathroom; unlike the gang bathroom girls had when I was in college.

Then. Foreign kids. Their parents - often - have lots of income and capacity. They pay for higher levels.

Florida State & Texas & Florida etc etc. they all have amazing luxury products near the campus now. So ... quoting the on campus percentage is BS. Commuter school is a ancient concept. Particularly since some of these schools are growing incredibly. P5? What if a UCF rises (or others) at a phenomenal progression - academic + athletics. There’s nothing saying they are totally stuck.
 
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