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AAC CALL: HC Randy Edsall On Boise & Process Program Needs to Follow

Dooley said:
You know what is really crazy talk? I can't find a single "drop football" opinion that wants to move hoops to any other conference other than the new Big Little East. If we are eventually going to pony up $10M-$12M to leave the AAC and put hoops somewhere else, why do we have to go to the friggin' Big East? If we are going to eventually shell out the coin to leave the AAC, then we better be parking hoops in the ACC/Big 10/Big 12...wherever. Heck, I think I could make a case for the SEC being a better option that the Big East 2.0. Any conference with a network would trip all over themselves to be able to play primetime games against a name as big as UConn. And at least with that kind of level of partnership, we could conceivably get a couple of football games scheduled on our independent schedule.
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I think there are two options better than current state that are at least plausible.

1. No football with ACC/Hockey East

2. MAC football with Big East/Hockey East (with UMass to get them to even in FB)

I don’t know if either the ACC or Big East would sign up for that - but I do know they wouldn’t hang up the phone.
 
whaler11 said:
I think there are two options better than current state that are at least plausible.

1. No football with ACC/Hockey East

2. MAC football with Big East/Hockey East (with UMass to get them to even in FB)

I don’t know if either the ACC or Big East would sign up for that - but I do know they wouldn’t hang up the phone.
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Yeah, we have absolutely nothing in common with any leftover Big East school. We are a large public flagship. They are small private Catholics. If it ever came down to it, I'm completely confident that we could park our hoops programs in the highest P5 bidder's conference. Literally all of them would fall over themselves to be able to schedule any of their teams against UConn twice a year. That could probably include a couple of football games on the Independent/MAC/whatever schedule. We can schedule the Big East teams that truly matter to UConn fans - Nova & Georgetown - without having to sit through games against that league's garbage. We'd probably get a partial share - maybe $10M/yr? - for being hoops only with 2 or 3 football games, but it makes more sense to me than dropping football altogether or dropping down to partner up with Big East schools that are completely different types of institutions than UConn.
 
Dooley said:
Yeah, we have absolutely nothing in common with any leftover Big East school. We are a large public flagship. They are small private Catholics. If it ever came down to it, I'm completely confident that we could park our hoops programs in the highest P5 bidder's conference. Literally all of them would fall over themselves to be able to schedule any of their teams against UConn twice a year. That could probably include a couple of football games on the Independent/MAC/whatever schedule. We can schedule the Big East teams that truly matter to UConn fans - Nova & Georgetown - without having to sit through games against that league's garbage. We'd probably get a partial share - maybe $10M/yr? - for being hoops only with 2 or 3 football games, but it makes more sense to me than dropping football altogether or dropping down to partner up with Big East schools that are completely different types of institutions than UConn.
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I don’t think ND gets 10 from the ACC and they unlock bowl deals.

I also don’t see any deal to be made with the SEC or Big Ten - their networks are going to lose revenue going forward they aren’t going to dilute the payday by adding more mouths tonfeed.

The ACC potentially works because of geography and the synergy in NYC and Boston.

UConn has two very important things in common with Big East schools: 1. We all care about basketball and not football. 2. A bunch of them are close
 
It would be insanely stupid to drop from FBS let alone drop football all together. Talk about destroying any hope of being a flagship national university...what we need to do is double down and invest in success
 
noeynox said:
We have the head coach giving press conferences on just how awful things are and you think it's the fans sucking the joy out of the experience?
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I used to laugh at Rutgers fans. Now ... that's the hole we are in. And I am going to bet we aren't gonna be there as long. (O ... the other thing: they went years with 0-3 wins for quite some time)
 
Pudge said:
I used to laugh at Rutgers fans. Now ... that's the hole we are in. And I am going to bet we aren't gonna be there as long. (O ... the other thing: they went years with 0-3 wins for quite some time)
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So like us currently.

This is a deep hole, but it isn't the fans sucking the joy out of the experience. That's like Benedict saying the fans need to be accountable for attendance. They're laughable statements.

The fans still showing up are the ones that still care. The ones youre trying to reach and get back and share the joy with, they stopped paying attention long ago. This program is irrelevant to those people. No one left that supports this product with any combination of time and money deserves to any crap from Benedict, Edsall or anyone else.
 
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UConnNick said:
Location and market are important, but that all relates to football because that's where the money comes from. There was nothing wrong with our location and market during prior CR dust ups, and if BB meant anything we'd already be in a P5 league.

Rutgers proved you could do it without a good football program, or anything else other than cable TV boxes, where you force people to pay for the BTN whether they want it or not. Our market isn't as good as theirs.
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Right but we're not trying to go back in time and beat out those teams, we're trying to be in position to beat out the remaining teams hoping to make p5.
 
kemba said:
Right but we're not trying to go back in time and beat out those teams, we're trying to be in position to beat out the remaining teams hoping to make p5.
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True, which means our market competition will likely be Houston, Memphis, Cincinnati, Tampa, Orlando, and possibly Philadelphia. It will essentially be the same dog and pony show the B12 ramped up a couple of years back.
 
If I could be a logistics supplier to you morons who think throwing good money after bad because it'll surely workout eventually because REASONS, I could retire tomorrow.
 
Dooley said:
Literally all of them would fall over themselves to be able to schedule any of their teams against UConn twice a year.
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Which is why...almost none of them...do it...?
 
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Dooley said:
Yeah, we have absolutely nothing in common with any leftover Big East school. We are a large public flagship. They are small private Catholics. If it ever came down to it, I'm completely confident that we could park our hoops programs in the highest P5 bidder's conference.
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Nah, you're right. UConn's entire rise was IN NO WAY involved with playing the private schools like Villanova, Georgetown and Providence. They had no role. It was only the big publics like Miami and Rutgers.

Christ.
 
UConnNick said:
Perhaps some folks are unaware that UCONN has had a football program since 1896. That pre-dates the BB program by five years. With the exception of brief suspensions during WWI and WWII, football has been played continuously since then. The BB program stopped and started up many times during the first 20 years of the 20th century, sometimes for years at a time.

We've likely lost money on the football program almost every season of its existence, yet nobody has ever axed it, and its overall lifetime record is mediocre at best.
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Ok...but...wait...was this supposed to be an argument IN FAVOR of it? Because, uh, buddy, that's literally the opposite of what you just made.

Totally makes sense to compare what the program cost the school in 1948 to what it costs it today, yep, exact totes the same. Mmhmm. Why stop doing something dumb if you've always done it- that's the AMERICAN way!
 
The only hope of this program is that somehow, some day, we'll find our way into a better conference.

Our chances are not good. Our chances without an FBS football program are zero.

If you prefer not good to zero, then you'd better hope we keep football.
 
zls44 said:
Ok...but...wait...was this supposed to be an argument IN FAVOR of it? Because, uh, buddy, that's literally the opposite of what you just made.

Totally makes sense to compare what the program cost the school in 1948 to what it costs it today, yep, exact totes the same. Mmhmm. Why stop doing something dumb if you've always done it- that's the AMERICAN way!
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You conveniently left out the last sentence in my message, which clearly summarized that we're not dropping football. If you want to characterize my post as an argument for or against dropping football, it wasn't intended to be anything more than an explanation regarding why we're not going to drop football. Read Fishy's post, which very succinctly explains the reasoning why we're not.

If you want to talk about dumb, dropping football and joining the new Big East would be the height of stupidity, and a death sentence for our AD as we know it.
 
UConnNick said:
If you want to talk about dumb, dropping football and joining the new Big East would be the height of stupidity, and a death sentence for our AD as we know it.
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I like football, but this argument that doing what you describe would be the death sentence for the AD is absolutely asinine. It is entirely possible that the truth is prooooobably somewhere between the two extremes, while you want to idiotically refuse to acknowledge that the Big East could EVER work.

Making a P5 conference would be better than this...but unless that happens, playing basketball in the Big East is absolutely, positively healthier for the athletic department. But they can't do that, so here we are- but that doesn't mean this is working.
 
zls44 said:
Nah, you're right. UConn's entire rise was IN NO WAY involved with playing the private schools like Villanova, Georgetown and Providence. They had no role. It was only the big publics like Miami and Rutgers.

Christ.
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Oh you mean the same Villanova, Georgetown, and Providence who essentially booted us out in the first place?

And c'mon, I think we all know the big, football playing schools - Syracuse, Pitt, Notre Dame, Louisville...even WVU - carried more excitement for our fanbase than anyone left in the Little East, except Nova & Georgetown.
 
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