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Do they know what they want? Or they negotiating with some schools? Or are they negotiating with some networks? Planning to dissolve?
 
No expansion.
Most close to a done deal was BYU plus Houston.
Not enough votes for that to happen and better to not expand and get some more money from current TV partners.
No plan B for Big 12 today but the door is not fully closed. Lots of TX backlash may be coming.
 
JMick said:
Have you tried calling and asking? I want to know too
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The question is if they have figured it out by now or are still working on it.
 
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The answer is: nobody knows. They don't even know.
 
whaler11 said:
They are still working on it from what I understand.
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I heard they were gathered in the BIG12 boardroom having a robust discussion and this suddenly popped up on Gordon Gee's screensaver during his part of the presentation and they can't tear themselves away to vote...

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Not sure how much validity I place on the report tho...
 
huskymedic said:
I heard they were gathered in the BIG12 boardroom having a robust discussion and this suddenly popped up on Gordon Gee's screensaver during his part of the presentation and they can't tear themselves away to vote...

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Not sure how much validity I place on the report tho...
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That guy in the background is oblivious to the world. How could he have missed that. He didn't even turn his head when the girl he was talking to slapped the brunette's rear.
 
shizzle787 said:
Do they know what they want? Or they negotiating with some schools? Or are they negotiating with some networks? Planning to dissolve?
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No, No, No, Yes (they just don't know it yet)
 
Bottom line is inaction is preferable to action for UConn right now.
B12 went from having a tenuous plan to no plan.
UConn and everyone else in the AAC have 2-3 years of survival.
One thing I've learned in life in business is that a perfectly executed plan that was poorly thought out Trump's indecision every time. Waffling is the death knell of an organization. And that is the B12 right now. They literally don't know what they are right now or what they should he going forward.
 
dayooper said:
That guy in the background is oblivious to the world. How could he have missed that. He didn't even turn his head when the girl he was talking to slapped the brunette's rear.
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He was fixated on the girl he was talking to.
 
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Chin Diesel said:
Bottom line is inaction is preferable to action for UConn right now.
B12 went from having a tenuous plan to no plan.
UConn and everyone else in the AAC have 2-3 years of survival.
One thing I've learned in life in business is that a perfectly executed plan that was poorly thought out Trump's indecision every time. Waffling is the death knell of an organization. And that is the B12 right now. They literally don't know what they are right now or what they should he going forward.
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This election season sucks. You can't even use trump as an appropriate verb without autocorrect changing it so something it isn't.
 
Butch said:
He was fixated on the girl he was talking to.
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Didn't even follow the hand to her rear. Kids these days.
 
huskymedic said:
I heard they were gathered in the BIG12 boardroom having a robust discussion and this suddenly popped up on Gordon Gee's screensaver during his part of the presentation and they can't tear themselves away to vote...

View attachment 16107

Not sure how much validity I place on the report tho...
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I suddenly forgot what this thread is about...
 
Well I don't remember what this thread is about either, so this roving reporter will give you his update from SEC country and later from the heart of the Big 12: Austin Texas. I'm flying there in a few hours.

But here is the report from New Orleans.
  • People are bummed that there was no LSU - Florida game...and on Saints bye week no less! A definite downer for the Big Easy. Fortunately they have other things to attract their attention but this is a football town.
  • Tulane has an awesome campus, and some darned pretty girls.
  • Tulane beat UMass to go 3-2 and with no LSU game or Saints game, this was the big local football news. It was on local TV news and they were pretty excited to see Tulane go over .500.
  • I did see a few people wearing a little UConn swag in New Orleans. Lots of FSU guys down on Bourbon Street...why does that make sense to me? LSU stuff is everywhere.
 
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HuskyHawk said:
Well I don't remember what this thread is about either, so this roving reporter will give you his update from SEC country and later from the heart of the Big 12: Austin Texas. I'm flying there in a few hours.

But here is the report from New Orleans.
  • People are bummed that there was no LSU - Florida game...and on Saints bye week no less! A definite downer for the Big Easy. Fortunately they have other things to attract their attention but this is a football town.
  • Tulane has an awesome campus, and some darned pretty girls.
  • Tulane beat UMass to go 3-2 and with no LSU game or Saints game, this was the big local football news. It was on local TV news and they were pretty excited to see Tulane go over .500.
  • I did see a few people wearing a little UConn swag in New Orleans. Lots of FSU guys down on Bourbon Street...why does that make sense to me? LSU stuff is everywhere.
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Regarding that LSU-Florida game...pretty nifty maneuver by the Gators. With their injuries...starting QB and entire DL...they didn't want to play LSU this week. So...they waited until the last minute and ppd. Could have played on Sunday...or Monday....or moved the game. Nope..they cancelled. Now they can get healthy for the rest of the schedule.

A bit slimy...but well done.
 
huskymedic said:
I heard they were gathered in the BIG12 boardroom having a robust discussion and this suddenly popped up on Gordon Gee's screensaver during his part of the presentation and they can't tear themselves away to vote...

View attachment 16107

Not sure how much validity I place on the report tho...
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Way to totally derail my train of thought...
 
huskymedic said:
I heard they were gathered in the BIG12 boardroom having a robust discussion and this suddenly popped up on Gordon Gee's screensaver during his part of the presentation and they can't tear themselves away to vote...

View attachment 16107

Not sure how much validity I place on the report tho...
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Just a couple of Louisville 'hostesses' warming up for the evening recruit reception.
 
It's dumb. It's exactly what the media did to the big east.

Perception is becoming reality.
 
The whole system is teetering on the edge of becoming a giant clusterf thanks to media manipulation and greed. They squeezed the Golden Goose (CFB) so hard its going on life support. Viewership is down because they have ripped apart natural rivalries, killed conferences, concentrated power in the P5 and cut off 50% of the schools from NC eligibility, and have stripped the NCAA of power. Nobody is looking out for the health of CFB. They defiled the innate purpose of college football and turned it into a business.
 
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BlueDogs said:
The whole system is teetering on the edge of becoming a giant clusterf thanks to media manipulation and greed. They squeezed the Golden Goose (CFB) so hard its going on life support. Viewership is down because they have ripped apart natural rivalries, killed conferences, concentrated power in the P5 and cut off 50% of the schools from NC eligibility, and have stripped the NCAA of power. Nobody is looking out for the health of CFB. They defiled the innate purpose of college football and turned it into a business.
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CFB is on life support? Viewership is down? You did see how much these conferences are making in their media deals, right? Or do you just not think before posting?
 
Rocktheworld said:
CFB is on life support? Viewership is down? You did see how much these conferences are making in their media deals, right? Or do you just not think before posting?
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Do you understand basic facts? ESPN is shedding overhead and cutting costs. Overall viewership is falling. It's not about what has been negotiated. It's about what will be. The big12 will be torn apart, the number of teams receiving big payouts will fall, and there will be the haves and perpetual have nots. The demographics are getting more challenged with Millennials who don't watch team sports as much. Not rocket science, just basic logic. But it requires looking farther than the end of your nose.
 
BlueDogs said:
But it requires looking farther than the end of your nose.
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Oh like the television networks who signed deals going in to the back half of the 2020s? You think they made it past the ends of their noses? Since when is ESPN the sole indicator of how an entire market is going?
 
Rocktheworld said:
Oh like the television networks who signed deals going in to the back half of the 2020s? You think they made it past the ends of their noses? Since when is ESPN the sole indicator of how an entire market is going?
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Well ESPN's health drives the entire industry.

Ratings are far from life support - but there are some pretty negative indicators.

Affiliate fees for cable networks exhibit a clear downward trend. It's still the best mousetrap anyone has built to date.

It wasn't an accident that Disney invested a billion dollars into MBLAM streaming technology.

We may actually enter a period of a few years where the cable carriers are actually willing to compete on price. They are going to be in a position where they fight for every sub.

The key will be if someone cracks the code on a direct model that generates the revenue to support the current level of payments to conferences.

Personally I don't ever see how they make the math work. I am fairly confident that rights deals even for big properies are going to fall in the medium term (i.e. every deal that comes up from here will be a bloodbath.

There is going to be a lot of drama in about 5 years because P5 conferences are sitting on a bubble.
 
Anyone here a subscriber to TMG? Just curious to see..

UCONN COULD BE DEALING WITH CATCH 22 SITUATION
The University of Connecticut’s college football future and perhaps athletic future will hit a cross roads on Monday in Dallas when the Big 12 Presidents meet and decide 1. Whether to expand 2. Whether to invite UConn.

If the answer to either or both questions is NO, UConn officials have a decision to make. The problem is that any choice UConn makes looks ominous.

Here are UConn’s options:
UConn could be dealing with Catch 22 situation
 
Eskapeesto said:
Anyone here a subscriber to TMG? Just curious to see..

UCONN COULD BE DEALING WITH CATCH 22 SITUATION
The University of Connecticut’s college football future and perhaps athletic future will hit a cross roads on Monday in Dallas when the Big 12 Presidents meet and decide 1. Whether to expand 2. Whether to invite UConn.
If the answer to either or both questions is NO, UConn officials have a decision to make. The problem is that any choice UConn makes looks ominous.

Here are UConn’s options:

UConn could be dealing with Catch 22 situation
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>>Stay as a full member in the American Athletic Conference. That is the safest move, but the consequences could be severe. Because of money the American received from buyouts from the Catholic 7 schools (paid when they broke from the Big East football/basketball conference), UConn’s television led revenues are close to $10 million this year. But that Big East money is now gone. Projections over the next few years have the payouts shrinking to $3 million a year, a number which UConn, with its 71 million dollar a year budget, can not tolerate.

Ask the American to allow UConn to move to the Big East in all sports but football. This is not likely to happen since there is almost no value in UConn for the American without football.

Leave the American, join the Big East in all sports but football and become part of the Mid-American Conference in football. It could work, but here’s the snag. Leaving the AAC, which has an exit fee charge of $1o million dollars AND requires 27 months of notice, will not be cheap. No one expects a 27 month “lame duck” situation, so UConn will be able to leave almost immediately, but then it will cost more than $10 million. If UConn were joining a Power 5 conference such as the Big 12, which had a payout of $30 million for each school, it could afford the buyout. Even joining as a football only member, would bring in enough money to offset the buyout. But neither the Mac nor the Big East combined could generate a $10 million plus cost.

If UConn is shut out from the Big 12, its safest financial move for the time being will be to do nothing and see what the college landscape is in the next couple of years. But unless the Big 12 extends an invitation, UConn is on the horns of a dilemma.<<
 
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