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seanmc94 said:
Duke got the special treatment as a 1 or 2 seed. Uconn played 4 games within driving distance as a 6
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You're a little out of your depth here. So what accounts for the fact that the 3 other Uconn championship teams (seeded 1, 2, and 3, respectively) got shipped out West?
 
seanmc94 said:
Duke got the special treatment as a 1 or 2 seed. Uconn played 4 games within driving distance as a 6
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Anything without an ocean in between is technically driving distance. Buffalo's not what I'd call a comfortable drive.
 
Gurleyman said:
Anything without an ocean in between is technically driving distance. Buffalo's not what I'd call a comfortable drive.
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Yeah, that's gotta be like 400 miles. I'm not sure how that's a "home game."
 
Fishy said:
What I learned on the Boneyard tonight.

Playing two Philadelphia teams in Buffalo gives UConn an unfair advantage.
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when 1/2 the crowd consists of syracuse fans.
 
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seanmc94 said:
How far is msg?
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Michigan State can't whine - we lost to them in Detroit in the 2009 Final Four. That was right before we played virtual road games at San Diego State and Arizona in Anaheim in 2011. And right after George Mason in DC in 2006 (still should have beat them, of course).

Before that, there was Florida in Florida in 1994, UCLA in Cali in 1995, UNC in North Carolina in 1998, and Texas in Texas in 2003.

We caught a break getting to play in Worcester in 2005 but were too injured to take advantage. And we caught a break this year advancing to MSG when we weren't supposed to and taking the spot that was meant for Villanova. Seems like we've been on the short end more often than not, so I'm not shedding a tear for poor Sparty.
 
seanmc94 said:
How far is msg?
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So, now that you realize you sound like an idiot, you move the goalposts? Who do you think you are, Kevin McNamara?
 
buffalo is literally further than dc when driving from ct. thats a road trip.
 
I ran the numbers...since 1990, here is the breakdown of UConn's NCAAT sites:
New York - 10 games (4 Buffalo, 2 Syracuse, 2 Uniondale, 2 NYC)
Washington DC - 8
Texas - 5 (including one against Texas)
Arizona - 4
California - 4 (including one against UCLA)
Florida - 2 (including one against lower-seeded Florida)
Washington - 2 (including one against a lower-seeded western team)
Indiana - 2
Michigan - 2 (including once against lower-seeded Michigan State in the FF)
Kentucky - 2 (including one against lower-seeded SEC team)
New Jersey - 2
Ohio - 2
North Carolina - 2 (including one against UNC)
Colorado - 2
Alabama - 2 (including once against a lower-seeded SEC team)
Connecticut - 2 (in 1990)
 
Forgot 2 in Massachusetts
 
HuskyBballFan said:
You're a little out of your depth here. So what accounts for the fact that the 3 other Uconn championship teams (seeded 1, 2, and 3, respectively) got shipped out West?
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I'm talking about last year...not t
zls44 said:
So, now that you realize you sound like an idiot, you move the goalposts? Who do you think you are, Kevin McNamara?
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What goal posts did I move? I never referred to past years; other posters did. I said uconn had an advantage playing close to home as a lower seed. If you don't like those facts, sorry. But that's what this thread derailed to. Dukes geographic advantage in the tourney. I pointed out that they aren't the only ones to benifit.
 
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seanmc94 said:
I'm talking about last year...not t



What goal posts did I move? I never referred to past years; other posters did. I said uconn had an advantage playing close to home as a lower seed. If you don't like those facts, sorry. But that's what this thread derailed to. Dukes geographic advantage in the tourney. I pointed out that they aren't the only ones to benifit.
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If the regular season champs from your league weren't so pillowy soft, Uconn never makes it to MSG.
 
Villanova also had no injuries so no damn excuses. Nobody discusses that nova win despite the fact were underdogs going into it. OH i think they claim nova was 'over seeded' now that i think about it.
 
Boeheim responded to the Woj article. He disagreed with the content, just like everyone else. He said only 1 coach has complained about the increased access he and K have had with recruits. That coach? John Calipari, of course.
 
walker11 said:
Boeheim responded to the Woj article. He disagreed with the content, just like everyone else. He said only 1 coach has complained about the increased access he and K have had with recruits. That coach? John Calipari, of course.
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LOL, if Squid was the coach Team USA would be playing ESPN-televised exhibition games at the high school gyms of Kentucky's top recruits.
 
wait, Coach K is having a press conference on this article or was it in regards to something else?
 
James said:
Woj def has an axe to grind. however, imagine if coach k were forced to ACTUALLLY coach 19-20 year olds vs grown men? it would be a debacle. When he is left with his duke staff, he can't beat terrible acc teams and mercer.
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Liked this just for the "and mercer."
 
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seanmc94 said:
I'm talking about last year...not t



What goal posts did I move? I never referred to past years; other posters did. I said uconn had an advantage playing close to home as a lower seed. If you don't like those facts, sorry. But that's what this thread derailed to. Dukes geographic advantage in the tourney. I pointed out that they aren't the only ones to benifit.
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Let's not compare UConn's luck to play at MSG to anything which has enabled Duke and UNC consistently to play in their home state in the first or 2nd rounds. Raleigh, Charlotte and Greensboro have been routinely hosting them over the years.
 
Kitaman said:
This to mean is non-news. Any college coach in his situation would (and should) use it as an advantage. As for K he needs to.

UConn's coach only need to pick up the phone to establish NBA relationships, not use a contest to tout his access.

To me this is bigger news: linky
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how is that legal????
 
seanmc94 said:
How far is msg?
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seanmc94 said:
I'm talking about last year...not t



What goal posts did I move? I never referred to past years; other posters did. I said uconn had an advantage playing close to home as a lower seed. If you don't like those facts, sorry. But that's what this thread derailed to. Dukes geographic advantage in the tourney. I pointed out that they aren't the only ones to benifit.
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I have Storrs to Buffalo at 420 miles and philly to Buffalo at about 380.

MSG yes, but Id argue that the NCAA didn't do UConn any favors in seeding/location on purpose. By seed they expected UConn to be out before MSG. They, if anything, gave Nova a huge advantage at the opportunity of playing at MSG. If you want to argue the NCAA was doing UConn favors, then I guess PC got those MSG favors also, just didn't take advantage. Bonus points for losing to a team who lost to a team UConn beat on the way to the Championship.

All of that is just window dressing and not the point.

The point is that when UConn has been seeded highly, they tend to end up in a situation that UVA was in as playing more away than the other top seed (assuming top seed made it that far, Nova). Can't remember the last time Duke was sent out West and had to play a west coast team in their home state. Duke usually ends up with a few games much closer than 3 hours by car from their campus.
 
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seanmc94 said:
Duke got the special treatment as a 1 or 2 seed. Uconn played 4 games within driving distance as a 6
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Cuse would play 1st round games at the C Dome and still lose. You only get a Carmelo once.
UConn creates champions-that's the difference
 
Jerry1714 said:
I know being a PC fan is terrible, but it is September, at least wait for the season to start before you begin trolling.

Just enjoy the off season and the annual hope that this is finally PC's year.
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But they have Chukwu and he's better than Brimah and Thabeet and just amazing.

I thought they were taking over Northeast basketball and all the recruits would be theirs. Good thing Ollie set things straight quickly with Enoch and Adams, but hey they got Mitchell and Sharm....wait...what...whiffed...ohhh. Maybe theirs another Gomes out there...

Seriously though, which is hard with PC fan #2, hope Dunn stays healthy. I can't wait for him to graduate so I can stop caring at all about PC ball.

BTW the two guards UConn had, which limited UConns recruitment of Dunn (who I was told Dunn was better than by PC fans, for years), just won an NCAA Championship together. Dunn has a long way to go to catch either one.
 
caw said:
But they have Chukwu and he's better than Brimah and Thabeet and just amazing.

I thought they were taking over Northeast basketball and all the recruits would be theirs. Good thing Ollie set things straight quickly with Enoch and Adams, but hey they got Mitchell and Sharm....wait...what...whiffed...ohhh. Maybe theirs another Gomes out there...

Seriously though, which is hard with PC fan #2, hope Dunn stays healthy. I can't wait for him to graduate so I can stop caring at all about PC ball.

BTW the two guards UConn had, which limited UConns recruitment of Dunn (who I was told Dunn was better than by PC fans, for years), just won an NCAA Championship together. Dunn has a long way to go to catch either one.
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I still can't believe PC scooped Coleman and we had to settle for Lamb.

I think gofriars08 retired from our board after all his prognostications were so unbelievably incorrect. Or he just got banned since he was a .
 
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Coach K has resurrected USA Basketball and Duke was getting top recruits long before he was the coach of the National Team. Does he get access to young players more because of it, yeah, but Billy Donovan gets even more coaching the u18 National Team. And calipari will whine that they have an advantage but he didn't seem to care when his DR coaching gig landed him the #1 recruit in the country.
 
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