A Pivotal Play SU – Hudson Pick 6
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Conclusion – It is difficult to say with 100% certainty … but it appeared SU was ready for this play before the ball was even snapped. Their FS, LDE, SLB, and MLB all took a different and more successful approach to a play they had already seen. The FS even waited until right before the ball was snapped before making his run down into the middle ... in coordination with Franklin sliding with Shirreffs.
Although it succeeded in the first half … I’m not even sure I like the design of the play at all. Much like a few plays in the UVA game … it puts too many receivers into a small area and makes them easier to defend. If you consider how SU defended the zone read by continuously scraping the SLB off the SDE then it appears that the SU defensive coaches had just as much success against the UCONN offense as the SU offensive coaches had against the UCONN defense.
In the week leading up to the SU game … nobody would have predicted that SU’s D would make one of the most decisive plays of the game.
Although it succeeded in the first half … I’m not even sure I like the design of the play at all. Much like a few plays in the UVA game … it puts too many receivers into a small area and makes them easier to defend. If you consider how SU defended the zone read by continuously scraping the SLB off the SDE then it appears that the SU defensive coaches had just as much success against the UCONN offense as the SU offensive coaches had against the UCONN defense.
In the week leading up to the SU game … nobody would have predicted that SU’s D would make one of the most decisive plays of the game.
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The key to that play was running on first and second down for two yards.
The previous successful pass was on first down.
Diaco put his team behind the chains with conservative play calling. He did the same thing against Navy except it was three runs that led to a poor punt and the winning drive for Navy. He constantly puts his offense in a hole with predictable and unimaginative play calling. And it loses games.
The previous successful pass was on first down.
Diaco put his team behind the chains with conservative play calling. He did the same thing against Navy except it was three runs that led to a poor punt and the winning drive for Navy. He constantly puts his offense in a hole with predictable and unimaginative play calling. And it loses games.
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Great breakdown.
So SU rushed three and got pressure meanwhile UConn bunched their receivers to one side of the field.
Anytime you can get pressure with three rushers the D has good odds. Especially if the QB doesn't have a gun for an arm.
So SU rushed three and got pressure meanwhile UConn bunched their receivers to one side of the field.
Anytime you can get pressure with three rushers the D has good odds. Especially if the QB doesn't have a gun for an arm.
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Usually, I agree...but I watched this again last night and that 3rd qtr drive where we settled for a tying field goal was a massive momentum swing. The Cuse D was beyond winded. A TD there, and the lead, most likely a 3 an out or short series for their O since our D and the stadium would have been going nutz.
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You can easily argue and say the pivotal plays happened at the start of the game. their 2 scores and our lack of offensive output to start the game and match their intensity.... We didn't do that.. We haven't done that all season long... We could, but we haven't...
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It all started on 1st down when the team ran onto the field with 16 seconds left on the play clock. They rushed to snap the ball on first down and ran for 2. Weak run on 2nd down leading to this play call. The series seemed rushed from the get go.
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I agree, the successful pass to Davis was on first down deep in SU territory. SU had to stay in base Cover 2 to defend both the pass and the run. The MLB (Franklin) was responsible for RJ in the flat. Once RJ blocked his responsibility shorts to contain Sherriffs. The later play was 3 and 8. SU had no fear of a run with UConn backed up deep in their own territory. Franklin is again responsible for RJ in the flat. The FS is spying Sherriffs all the way. The backside CB is on an island once action rolls away. RJ blocks, Franklin continues to get depth to the sideline knowing the short flat is covered and UConn needs to get past the sticks. Thomas is the biggest threat, so he gets underneath Thomas. That puts Franklin in position to bracket Thomas and help on Davis should Sherriffs throw short of the sticks. If Sherriffs tucks the FS is there to make the tackle.
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No, Cuse rushed 4 and had a spy. Look at the hit that Knappe had on the Cuse D lineman that made it look like he wasn't rushing.
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Well, I'd have to watch the live action, but frame 8 seems to show three down on the D line and one up right player. At the snap the upright player never engages in a real pass rush - instead plays second spy to Sherriffs. Sherriffs was pursued on that play by just three rushing lineman.
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On the pick our interior lineman could not block a DT and he made BS rush his decision. Piss poor effort by them. It was a crap play call in general as it shrinks the field for the offense and helps the defense. At this time our rollout RPO's are not working well as evidenced by our 4th and 2 play.
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SU was running a stunt with their DTs on the play. Knappe blocks out on the DE, then releases to cover the stunting DT (who also has screen responsibility, so he's not rushing. He's alert to middle screen on 3rd and 8) because he has RJs help. The breakdown was on the backside where the stunting DT gets penetration on the on the RG, C, and LG. That shouldn't happen.....EVER.
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A lot of T-E stunts by SU the entire game ...
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Yup and it remains the weakness of the line and impacts play calling... Former UConn OL Dalton Gifford continues to point this out in his breakdown of the O-line performance after each game on TOS (UConnReport.com). This week's comments were: "They continued to struggle with twists and pressures, especially the interior lineman, which caused Bryant Shirreffs to scramble and throw under duress constantly" and "The line showed some issues with passing off twists in the run game as well as the pass game which created plenty of issues trying to move the ball." In closing: "The offensive line continues to show us glimpses of how well they can play, but inconsistency is holding them back from really putting together a solid game as a unit."
He does a nice job.
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I totally agree. At that moment I was really baffled (and pissed) that HCWBD didn't go for it, and believed it would cost us the game.
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