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A Perverse View From CBS Sports

aburks41 said:
This is what Hurley means when he says we still do not get the respect that we’ve earned - not deserved - earned. How do programs like Purdue and Houston get more respect from the media as media darlings when they have accomplished absolutely nothing?
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The media hasn’t even voted yet, and it’s not Monday afternoon. Let’s reserve judgement.
 
tzznandrew said:
His final point ("I still believe if you put both resumes in front of the NCAA Tournament selection committee right now, they'd give Purdue the overall No. 1 seed") is 100% correct.

That doesn't mean that Purdue will stay #1 after getting walloped by a decent Nebraska team. But I don't think they fall farther than #2 if they do, and they'll have a number #1 votes as well.
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Let's face it, the goal is first two rounds in Brooklyn and regional in Boston. Whatever number is next to UConn's name to achieve that, I'm fine with it.
 
John said:
Hows this for perverse?

www.syracuse.com

Syracuse basketball makes top 10 on all-time AP Top 25 list

Syracuse made more than 500 appearances on the AP Top 25 during Boeheim's tenure.
www.syracuse.com www.syracuse.com
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So Sweet.

Syracuse last made the top 25 in December 2018 and has not yet been ranked under new head coach Adrian Autry. SU did not receive any votes in this week’s AP rankings, but is off to a strong 11-4 start this season.
 
Sphinx said:
Assessing the "chaos" this week among college basketball's Top Five, CBS Sports has this curiously dismissive comment as to how it reflects on UConn:

"UConn survived the mayhem with an 80-75 win at Xavier but not without trailing in the second half against the mediocre Musketeers.

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Collectively, the run of results illustrates a lack of dominance among the supposed top teams in the sport and opens the door for recently downtrodden brands such as Duke, Kentucky and North Carolina to reclaim their place atop the college basketball hierarchy."


Curious logic, it strikes me. Rather than lauded as an exception to the "chaos", UConn is lumped with the losers, all part of a discredited Top Five. Oh, well, maybe if we beat Georgetown.
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I think this is fine. He says we survived, we did. He said Xavier was mediocre, a sub 500 record would indicate the same. He said a run of results, if we lost 4 of 5 games that would be a run bad run of results. The top 5 lost 4 of 5 games I would call that a bad run of results. The Duke, UNC, Kentucky stuff is kind of silly but those teams generate clicks. This is a not a feature piece it's a daily style quick article compared to a lot of articles out there I actually thought on the whole this one was decent.
 
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Blue Blood said:
I think this is fine. He says we survived, we did. He said Xavier was mediocre, a sub 500 record would indicate the same. He said a run of results, if we lost 4 of 5 games that would be a run bad run of results. The top 5 lost 4 of 5 games I would call that a bad run of results. The Duke, UNC, Kentucky stuff is kind of silly but those teams generate clicks. This is a not a feature piece it's a daily style quick article compared to a lot of articles out there I actually thought on the whole this one was decent.
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The same author just had us #1 in his power rankings, so maybe we can call off the dogs.
 
Sphinx said:
Assessing the "chaos" this week among college basketball's Top Five, CBS Sports has this curiously dismissive comment as to how it reflects on UConn:

"UConn survived the mayhem with an 80-75 win at Xavier but not without trailing in the second half against the mediocre Musketeers.

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Collectively, the run of results illustrates a lack of dominance among the supposed top teams in the sport and opens the door for recently downtrodden brands such as Duke, Kentucky and North Carolina to reclaim their place atop the college basketball hierarchy."


Curious logic, it strikes me. Rather than lauded as an exception to the "chaos", UConn is lumped with the losers, all part of a discredited Top Five. Oh, well, maybe if we beat Georgetown.
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Did this guy watch us dismantle North Carolina?
 
This team has resilience. No panic. Last year we went in a tailspin with Sanogo and Clingan and came out fine. We're gonna go through some things and hopefully come out the other side with our freshman having big impact. I dont like the pressure of being a #1 seed. Don't want it.
 
nyhuskies13 said:
If Duke was sitting at #4 in the country this week, there would be ZERO debate over whether they were #1 next week. And certainly no discussion over resume

Hope someone is sending this to Hurley. The disrespect of keeping a team #1 after losing is off the charts. Has it ever happened in the history of the poll??
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Sending what to Hurley? The poll following the Purdue loss won't come out until Monday. I hope to god Hurley is worrying about more important things than what one writer or talking head predicts the next poll will say. I even wish you did.
 
businesslawyer said:
Sending what to Hurley? The poll following the Purdue loss won't come out until Monday. I hope to god Hurley is worrying about more important things than what one writer or talking head predicts the next poll will say. I even wish you did.
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A little irony here.
 
jibsey said:
This team has resilience. No panic. Last year we went in a tailspin with Sanogo and Clingan and came out fine. We're gonna go through some things and hopefully come out the other side with our freshman having big impact. I dont like the pressure of being a #1 seed. Don't want it.
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I agree with most of this but I can’t get on board with the last part. I want to see UConn ranked #1. How long has it been since we were the top ranked team in the country? 2009? Let’s beat Georgetown and see where the chips fall.
 
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Sphinx said:
Collectively, the run of results illustrates a lack of dominance among the supposed top teams in the sport and opens the door for recently downtrodden brands such as Duke, Kentucky and North Carolina to reclaim their place atop the college basketball hierarchy."
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Downtrodden definition: oppressed or treated badly by people in power.

We have had our way with Duke and Kentucky in the NCAAs in recent history and we beat UNC this year so I guess UConn fits the definition of power who are treating the blue bloods badly.
 
aburks41 said:
This is what Hurley means when he says we still do not get the respect that we’ve earned - not deserved - earned. How do programs like Purdue and Houston get more respect from the media as media darlings when they have accomplished absolutely nothing?
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I’d assume most of the media has an allegiance to some team (usually Duke or Syracuse) and they will pull for teams like Houston, Gonzaga and Purdue because they know they can’t win in March. Seeing UConn win makes a lot of them sick.

At least guys like Bilas has been able to put their bias aside to give UConn credit where it has been earned, but guys like him are the exception not the norm.
 
Huskygrad88 said:
Parish rally does a good job explaining Purdue over us, and based on stats he’s right on. We can counter with some maybes and coulda, mighta, but they have better Q 1 and 2, 5 wins against top 20 NET, and beat us on most computer metrics.

I’ll take #2 in college hoops in the oh so critical CBSSports line poll right now knowing we’ve still got significant upside.
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And I don't care about computer rankings

We're defending national Champs, they exit early

We're blessed if we're in their bracket
 
Chin Diesel said:
Let's face it, the goal is first two rounds in Brooklyn and regional in Boston. Whatever number is next to UConn's name to achieve that, I'm fine with it.
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We're going to have to be a #1 seed -- not necessarily #1 overall -- to get Boston. If we're behind Purdue for valid or BS reasons, it shouldn't affect such placement if we're both on the 1-line. A #2 seed in Boston would be a tall ask since the #1 seed would be at a disadvantage and the Committee isn't going to favor us that way. The only reason we got MSG in 2014 is because as a #7 seed, nobody expected us to even get there.

Anything #3 or higher is probably good enough for Brooklyn, and it would take a serious collapse for that to be at risk.
 
auror said:
Yes, that's the way he handles his poll, like the selection committee. Not everyone polls the same way, a lot of people poll like power rankings.
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I think it's totally legit. And I think it is healthy to have a variety of different voters apply different standards to what Top 25 means. They then all get tabulated together. As long as the voters are consistent in their thinking and logic.
 
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businesslawyer said:
Sending what to Hurley? The poll following the Purdue loss won't come out until Monday. I hope to god Hurley is worrying about more important things than what one writer or talking head predicts the next poll will say. I even wish you did.
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Hurley unquestionably has the program focused on the next game, any short-term goals, and season-long development for this squad

Hurley also sees even a single voter's slight as disrespect and uses that as rocket-fuel in his quest to dominate. The guy is almost petty (Jordan-esque) in describing how a conversation, doubter, or competitor lit a fire under him throughout his life.

Both things can be true

If you think Kentucky or Duke wouldn't automatically be voted #1 from #4, I don't know what to tell you. And Yes, we are ALL aware there's still a game this weekend and the poll isn't announced til early Monday afternoon. But we're all as fiery as our incredibly competitive coach
 
nyhuskies13 said:
Hurley unquestionably has the program focused on the next game, any short-term goals, and season-long development for this squad

Hurley also sees even a single voter's slight as disrespect and uses that as rocket-fuel in his quest to dominate. The guy is almost petty (Jordan-esque) in describing how a conversation, doubter, or competitor lit a fire under him throughout his life.

Both things can be true

If you think Kentucky or Duke wouldn't automatically be voted #1 from #4, I don't know what to tell you. And Yes, we are ALL aware there's still a game this weekend and the poll isn't announced til early Monday afternoon. But we're all as fiery as our incredibly competitive coach
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You do understand that the poll isn't a monolith, right? It's individual voters, and pretty much none of their ballots match the published Top 25? You can track how they vote. There are obvious boneheads, but this is the sort of absurd conspiratorial thinking that makes this fanbase insufferable at times.
 
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tzznandrew said:
It's also not up to date. There's been some movement.

They should be proud to be in the Top 10. They should also lament that they only have 1 title despite that sustained success.
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Syracuse last made the top 25 in December 2018....

Imagine going 5+ years without being ranked? We'd freak!
 
Sphinx said:
Assessing the "chaos" this week among college basketball's Top Five, CBS Sports has this curiously dismissive comment as to how it reflects on UConn:

"UConn survived the mayhem with an 80-75 win at Xavier but not without trailing in the second half against the mediocre Musketeers.

...
Collectively, the run of results illustrates a lack of dominance among the supposed top teams in the sport and opens the door for recently downtrodden brands such as Duke, Kentucky and North Carolina to reclaim their place atop the college basketball hierarchy."


Curious logic, it strikes me. Rather than lauded as an exception to the "chaos", UConn is lumped with the losers, all part of a discredited Top Five. Oh, well, maybe if we beat Georgetown.
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We play our games on Fox sports. So there is that to consider. Late night on cbs sports network one of the analysts pretty much said the only team that has set itself apart was UConn. So who knows what is going to happen but I am guessing #2 in AP and Coaches polls.
 
Sphinx said:
Assessing the "chaos" this week among college basketball's Top Five, CBS Sports has this curiously dismissive comment as to how it reflects on UConn:

"UConn survived the mayhem with an 80-75 win at Xavier but not without trailing in the second half against the mediocre Musketeers.

...
Collectively, the run of results illustrates a lack of dominance among the supposed top teams in the sport and opens the door for recently downtrodden brands such as Duke, Kentucky and North Carolina to reclaim their place atop the college basketball hierarchy."


Curious logic, it strikes me. Rather than lauded as an exception to the "chaos", UConn is lumped with the losers, all part of a discredited Top Five. Oh, well, maybe if we beat Georgetown.
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Nothing new. Our last 3 titles all had the narrative of "well they didnt have to play any of the top seeds" like somehow our title means less and now that we`re back in the top 5 and likely #1 now the top 5 is filled with "supposeds" and not worth much to be ranked #1. All the haters in the media can F off!
 
I have this feeling that we're somehow going to end up at #2 next Monday. I'm not sure who jumps over us for the top spot, but it just seems like something that would happen.
The only poll that matters is in April.
 
ibleedhuskyblue said:
I have this feeling that we're somehow going to end up at #2 next Monday. I'm not sure who jumps over us for the top spot, but it just seems like something that would happen.
The only poll that matters is in April.
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The only team that would be #1 over us (If we both win on the weekend) is Purdue.
 
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