A+ games for Hurley and Cole

[bendm]

or give Sanago feet for hands.

Gotta say I didn’t expect this to be one of his issues and it’s a bit concerning

 

[willie99]

RJ definitely gets an A+. Hurley gets an Incomplete in my book. You cannot just let your team meltdown like that in the first half, that was awful, just horrific basketball and complete disorganization. That said, some great OOB and out of timeout calls in the 2nd half redeemed him a bit.

The game is 40 minutes long and your opponent is going to have a run. Jim Calhoun always coached for the second half, to be at full strength for the second half, to make halftime adjustments

Hurley gets an A+ for the several easy buckets he got from the sidelines, especially off of inbounds plays.

The team is also playing great defense. Even in the Nova game. If you watched any part of Nova dismantling St John's yesterday, you get to appreciate our defense a whole lot more

 

[Umami Zen]

A huge BE win on the road. RJ had a solid floor game and is beginning to show his leadership skills. More importantly ,his teammates appear to be accepting him in that role.

DH showed game management improvement over last few games.

Would like to see Bouk work on his body language for the benefit of his teammates. He's going to get bounced around the rest of this year and at the next level. Opens himself up for trash talking/head games when he shows that the physicality is getting to him.

Let's get another few Ws pre-BET.

 

[Hoophound]

Sanogo has shown good hands before. In the beginning of the season I thought his hands were a strength. Weird.

 

[nelsonmuntz]

That's pretty rich coming from the "I make the same thread calling for 2 bigs at the same time and more Carlton after every game" guy.

Either way, it's an accurate post.

Wasn't there a poster that pointed out that UConn has a great winning percentage when Carlton plays 10 minutes or more?

 

[UConnSwag11]

Did we watch the same first half? Hurley was terrible. Again.

 

[slepers]

It seems that we are melting down after a 13 point win on the road,,,,,oh boy

 

[Dogdeacon]

Great 2nd half turning what was a slog of a game into a comfortable win. Minutes management of both Bouk and Jackson Enabled the run that closed the game.

 

[SportsFan88]

This team will never take the next step with Hurley as Coach.

Yea I couldn’t believe that bs man.. gotta keep that thread around cause the takes in there are otherworldly

 

[Icehawk]

Did we watch the same first half? Hurley was terrible. Again.

He recovered though - so let's take that as a positive step. I wish he'd switch up faster but at least this game he didn't just stick with something that didn't work.

 

[JohnFSilver]

Unless I missed it, Hurley didn't miss the lay ups, air ball 3s, or give Sanago feet for hands.

There is a feeling in college basketball that coaches can draw up the perfect play. Coaches have, for ages, made it seem like they are special and no one else can do their job. That's ridiculous. A play is a play. Depends on what players you have on your roster. The coach can't make a player make layups or shots. the job is to get them into a position for their strengths to show. UConn scored 50 points in the paint and was 12 of 24 on layups. How is that even possible? What more is Hurley supposed to do? People act like there are secret plays out there and some master chess move that can be made. Players gotta play. Basketball, unlike football, is a player-driven game. In football, the coach matters incredibly on game day. basketball, less so. Baseball? You only need a manager to bring the lineup card out.

 

[Marat]

It seems that we are melting down after a 13 point win on the road,,,,,oh boy

For the fans that appreciate the progress made from 4 years ago, there should not be complaints with getting a road victory in the BE (against a team that was playing well recently), and beating the point spread by a wide margin.

For the fans that want perfection or close to that, there will always be complaints. I can understand that if we do want to beat the best teams we'll have to eliminate the mistakes from last night, and adjust. If adjustments can be made, then this team can be better.

 

[ClifSpliffy]

blah, blah, blah. blabbity blah, blah. in coach dan's first year in the conference, the dawgs have the best d in the league. the so-called great, vaunted, tough-as-nails, in ur face, old school, blah, blah, blah big east. turrible. lol. sooooo, which is it? is the league soft as a marshmellow where a new program can just waltz in and dominate the league on d? or is it that dan is a sharpie and knows that d wins championships? cf, chiefs, kansas city, who really didn't do well after repeatedly getting punched in the head. and the body. and in the legs. and mebbe some other places, too.

 

[HeGotGame]

There is a feeling in college basketball that coaches can draw up the perfect play. Coaches have, for ages, made it seem like they are special and no one else can do their job. That's ridiculous. A play is a play. Depends on what players you have on your roster. The coach can't make a player make layups or shots. the job is to get them into a position for their strengths to show. UConn scored 50 points in the paint and was 12 of 24 on layups. How is that even possible? What more is Hurley supposed to do? People act like there are secret plays out there and some master chess move that can be made. Players gotta play. Basketball, unlike football, is a player-driven game. In football, the coach matters incredibly on game day. basketball, less so. Baseball? You only need a manager to bring the lineup card out.

There is a sect on this board who believe any mistake made on the court is due to a coaching error. Not sure if that is based on ignorance, inability to understand the coach is not a puppet master, or the inability to put fault on a college athlete, but whatever is the reason is, they just sound foolish and have zero ability to see progress.

There was a post saying JC would never have lost a game in the way we lost the one in OT at home to Creighton. Imagine being that foolish and/or blind to believe that?

 

[elmcityboy]

Wasn't there a poster that pointed out that UConn has a great winning percentage when Carlton plays 10 minutes or more?

this is a misleading stat (correlation =/= causation) similar to people pointing out that winning teams in the nfl run the ball more -- it's not because running more helps you win necessarily, it's because winning teams are using the running back at the end of the game to kill the clock.

the teams that have beaten uconn this year are small-ball teams that play guys like carlton off the floor (nova with robinson-earl at the 5, sju with champagnie at the 5) and that completely skews the percentages.

 

[UconnU]

Cole runs the PnR so well. I see a lot of potential next year with him and Samson Johnson. Johnson was like created in a lab for PnR.

 

[nelsonmuntz]

this is a misleading stat (correlation =/= causation) similar to people pointing out that winning teams in the nfl run the ball more -- it's not because running more helps you win necessarily, it's because winning teams are using the running back at the end of the game to kill the clock.

the teams that have beaten uconn this year are small-ball teams that play guys like carlton off the floor (nova with robinson-earl at the 5, sju with champagnie at the 5) and that completely skews the percentages.

LOLOL. Are you claiming that Carlton only plays in garbage time? Also, is it possible that the reason UConn lost to small ball teams is because UConn went small ball too instead of use players that gave the Huskies an advantage?

 

[elmcityboy]

LOLOL. Are you claiming that Carlton only plays in garbage time? Also, is it possible that the reason UConn lost to small ball teams is because UConn went small ball too instead of use players that gave the Huskies an advantage?

nah, just giving an example of similarly misleading stat. maybe not the perfect comparison.

ultimately, i trust this coaching staff to put us in the best position to win w/r/t the lineup that is out on the floor. maybe that is where i differ from some other posters on the yard...

 

[CTBballfan243]

The players were terrible in the first half, not Hurley or the coaching staff.

 

[tzznandrew]

For the fans that appreciate the progress made from 4 years ago, there should not be complaints with getting a road victory in the BE (against a team that was playing well recently), and beating the point spread by a wide margin.

For the fans that want perfection or close to that, there will always be complaints. I can understand that if we do want to beat the best teams we'll have to eliminate the mistakes from last night, and adjust. If adjustments can be made, then this team can be better.

Totally agree here. When watching the game it's incredibly frustrating sometimes, especially large chunks of the first half.

That said, people don't seem to have perspective. Every team—even our very best under JC—made mistakes, had droughts, etc. It's the end result that matters. And the process. For the players AND the coaching staff. They're getting there. Patience and perspective matter.

 

[Pudge]

I think many here are stuck on the "Carlton is no good" ... which is funny immediately after a game (Georgetown) where we saw why he gives quality minutes. THE GAME has evolved ... which is why he becomes a DNP or few minutes; he cannot play a athletic guy away from the paint. But neither would Jake V. He played a role last night; he was fine. His D (and size) was at least equal to Q the Georgetown C. We could not play Sanogo or Whaley to make 40 minutes. Carlton could play a big role against some tournament teams based on matchups.

Last night was about Cole playing a solid QB for crucial minutes when we needed him. Solid workmanlike game from Martin, Whaley, Sanogo. Gaffney.

 

[auror]

I think many here are stuck on the "Carlton is no good" ... which is funny immediately after a game (Georgetown) where we saw why he gives quality minutes. THE GAME has evolved ... which is why he becomes a DNP or few minutes; he cannot play a athletic guy away from the paint. But neither would Jake V. He played a role last night; he was fine. His D (and size) was at least equal to Q the Georgetown C. We could not play Sanogo or Whaley to make 40 minutes. Carlton could play a big role against some tournament teams based on matchups.

Last night was about Cole playing a solid QB for crucial minutes when we needed him. Solid workmanlike game from Martin, Whaley, Sanogo. Gaffney.

Yes, he's a serviceable 5. He can't be the focal point of an offense (we saw that beginning of last year), but he does the yeoman work fairly well (his rebounding > his offense > his defense).

But we have 2 other good to serviceable 5s, though. One better on defense and the other better on offense. The issue comes when people go "Well we have these 3 pretty good (but not really good) bigs and our bench wings kinda stink, why don't we just play 2 at once? Let one play the 4? Really pound the opponent."

And it can work against some teams. Teams that don't space us out when we're on defense. Teams that really let us pound the glass.

But it has not been working. Here's the last 30 days (last 7 games) of any combination of 2 of Whaley, Sanogo, and Carlton vs. every other lineup and the overall average. On is with 2 bigs, off is any lineup without 2 of the bigs, and baseline is overall average.

We shoot much worse at the rim with 2 bigs. And much worse in the midrange with 2 bigs. And we turn it over more. And we take less bad midrange 2s and more valuable 3s with less than 2 bigs. It all paints the obvious picture: the paint gets clogged when we play 2 bigs.

 

[auror]

Compare that to Whaley alone vs. with another big.

 

[husky429]

Compare that to Whaley alone vs. with another big.

I like the layout for this. What website?

 

[auror]

I like the layout for this. What website?

https://hoop-explorer.com/?

There's a bit of a learning curve and the stats only go back a couple years. Also have to be careful of small sample sizes, obviously, especially with specific lineups.