A case for football independence

[UCFBfan]

We're not invited. That's the only valid statement you need.

THIS!! Has anyone read ANYTHING about the C7 break and it's reason? They want to be a bball first conference and don't want to deal with FBS football. The SI article (sorry no link) that was in the recent magazine was clear as day about that. The Big East does not want a school that would even remotely have the chance to leave. They want the main focus to be on basketball and if you have a FBS program you know where the money is and bball is not it. Why would the Big East take UConn when they know that we'd bail if the ACC called (and we would, no matter what schools remained if they were raided)

The premise of this whole thread is based on a faulty hope. The Big East has said their goal and we don't fit that. So knock this crap off, accept our current situation, and move on. Jeez!

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[ZooCougar]

Hey guys, maybe UConn can join the League of Nations and the USFL too.

 

[CTMike]

I love how the same people that look at the A-12 (or even having a passing thought at the B1G or ACC) as "unrealistic" suddenly think it's entirely reasonable to schedule an independent football slate just because you say it's doable. Saying that ND would schedule a long term series with us does not make it so, any more than a thread about the B1G makes us a member. It's just different types of delusion.

Until the MD exit fee is settled (at which time hopefully there is more expansion, possibly further ACC departures) our best position is to: continue to pretty our resume, and wait and see. The problem with insane threads like this one and the last one is that you are content to fold before all the cards are dealt.

 

[HuskyHawk]

THIS!! Has anyone read ANYTHING about the C7 break and it's reason? They want to be a bball first conference and don't want to deal with FBS football. The SI article (sorry no link) that was in the recent magazine was clear as day about that. The Big East does not want a school that would even remotely have the chance to leave. They want the main focus to be on basketball and if you have a FBS program you know where the money is and bball is not it. Why would the Big East take UConn when they know that we'd bail if the ACC called (and we would, no matter what schools remained if they were raided)

The premise of this whole thread is based on a faulty hope. The Big East has said their goal and we don't fit that. So knock this crap off, accept our current situation, and move on. Jeez!

Exactly. And before we bemoan the permanence of our fate, consider that the Metro conference one contained, U South Carolina, FSU, GT, VT, and Louisville along with some other of our current conference mates in Cinci, USF (briefly) Tulane and Memphis. This new league is a step backward, but not the kiss of death. Empty seats and losing records while playing in this league...that will be the kiss of death.

I understand the attraction of independence...it screams "we're too good to be in a league with those unworthy savages". We all feel that. Well there is a better way to make that point. Kick the ever loving snot of them, every day. Out recruit, out work, out play, out attend and out spend them. It won't go unoticed. Apathy is our enemy at the moment; we cannot let it drag us down or this is the league we will deserve.

 

[uc1974]

Any of you rolling with Nelson on this have no patience. I'm not surprised since it is not something many people exhibit these days. I might suggest we go with what we have for a couple of years and see what develops rather that the run about scream and shout message. Conference changes are still to come. Money is fine for now and the major sports scheduling is OK. This all reminds me of Whaler games back when--the home team would be trailing and the screams of "do something" or "hit him" would rise from some in the crowd. Sometimes you just gotta cool it--like now. When I served in VN guys like Nelson were always pushing to do something after a bad event. Sometimes, you just shouldn't else you just make it worse.

 

[RS9999X]

The Atlantis-12 is a risk adverse decision allowing UConn more time to assess alternatives. Ruling out Independence without performing due diligence over the next couple years and watching the landscape? The media consultants need to earn some money too!

 

[uconn_jack]

Ugh! Stop engaging Nelson on this asinine topic and maybe it will go away!

There's no reasoning with crazy......

 

[Matt (Chicago)]

Charlotte is leaving the A-10 for the C-USA. OH NOES!!! Seriously, some of you need to get a grip of reality. If the emos here were leading the school, we'd be headed for the NEC.

what do you mean the emos?

 

[Waquoit]

The Atlantis-12 is a risk adverse decision allowing UConn more time to assess alternatives. Ruling out Independence without performing due diligence over the next couple years and watching the landscape?

I agree. Going indy would be like jumping out of the lifeboat because it doesn't have a bar. Staying in the boat is a death sentence true, but it gives you more time for a rescue.

 

[freescooter]

there is no case for independence that can be made. Unless you want to play a schedule loaded down with MAC and other independents. Maybe we could get 3 BCS games, 2 away and 1 home. Assume we can do that. Plus assume we do a long term deal with BYU. Aside from Notre Dame, the other independents leave just a bit to be desired. Army, Idaho, New Mexico State. Assuming the Cadets don't take our spot in the A-12 with Navy. Lots of potential for long term deals with Buffalo, Western Michigan, Kent State, Akron...So our 2018 schedule looks something like:
Fordham, @ACC, @B-12, Buffalo, ACC @Temple, @Army, New Mexico State, Kent State, @East Carolina, Idaho, @BYU. And that assumes you could get games with 2 ACCs and a B-12 team. I'm not sure you could. And it assumes you are looking to travel way west for a late season game with another indy and that they would travel east for one. That is when they have trouble scheduling, too.

 

[nelsonmuntz]

Each C7 school will make more money for basketball than UConn will for all sports.

 

[Jarhead_1775]

Each C7 school will make more money for basketball than UConn will for all sports.

It's hardly a windfall. Equivalent of offering me 2 dollars with strings attached vs. just 1 with a little more freedom and hope for a bigger payday. Keep your dollar, balloon knot.

 

[freescooter]

Each C7 school will make more money for basketball than UConn will for all sports.

They will make slightly more but that will be offset by the various fees UConn will receive. To say nothing of all the other issues we'll have to deal with. Nelson, the thing you don't seem to get is that UConn has a very different athletic and academic profile from the Catholic 7. They are private, relatively modest schools for the most part. Sure they have good basketball and occasionally they have another good program--baseball at Seton Hall, soccer at St Johns. But on the whole they have limited athletic programs and limited interest in being "major" powers in any. The one exception is Georgetown, which by most reports isn't that thrilled with where it ended up and that's why you will occasionally hear Georgetown to the ACC as a basketball only to balance Notre Dame.

 

[hthusky74]

Each C7 school will make more money for basketball than UConn will for all sports.

That is a short term scenaio. How long will the network continue to pay up for those powerhouse battles between PC and Seton Hall? Let's be honest, aside from Georgetown, Marquette and Villanova, the C7 has sucked in recent years. Their survival is completely contingent upon Butler, Xavier, and Creighton maintaining and improving their programs and fitting into the league well. The C7 as a stand alone is worthless.

 

[Adios]

Someone please send the OP to a psychiatrist.

 

[nelsonmuntz]

That is a short term scenaio. How long will the network continue to pay up for those powerhouse battles between PC and Seton Hall? Let's be honest, aside from Georgetown, Marquette and Villanova, the C7 has sucked in recent years. Their survival is completely contingent upon Butler, Xavier, and Creighton maintaining and improving their programs and fitting into the league well. The C7 as a stand alone is worthless.

You have literally resorted to arguing that 2 is greater than 5.

 

[Dooley]

The lack of vision and confidence in the UConn brand seen in posts like these are just numbing to me as a diehard Husky fan. Why in the world would UConn want to take a step backwards from the current sh1tstorm that they are already in? Going Independent in football??? Groveling at the feet of Providence, Seton Hall and DePaul??? C'mon man. Just stop.