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#7 Baylor @ Texas - 3/01/21

Who will win this game?

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Dwilliams02 said:
I think Queen is better than her and she still has a lot of work
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Collier isn't bad at all but just don't see the #1 pick. Games like this are true barometer and I feel she disappears a lot more in games like this.
 
Helluva play by Carrington to end the 3rd quarter. Completed eased that momentum Texas got briefly.
 
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Vic's arms around Audrey Warren puts a smile on my face. That's a classic Vic moment even at Mississippi State.

Man, I miss that guy and wish he would come back. There's a small chance he would, but only if he bombs at Texas which I don't see happening.
 
Dwilliams02 said:
I noticed Smith doesn't post up as much as she did beginning of the season. You're right about her extending her range consistently. Baylor would be hard to beat
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Maybe it's the hair but reminded me of Seimone Augustus tonight from her LSU days with her crossovers and ability to score. If she continues to improve her perimeter game she'll be a stellar draft prospect next year.
 
Dwilliams02 said:
I noticed Smith doesn't post up as much as she did beginning of the season. You're right about her extending her range consistently. Baylor would be hard to beat
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Smith isn't a back to the basket type of low banger. Can she score that way? Sure but thats not her game. She is better faced up off the bounce, she is extremely crafty in ways getting to the rim.

If Egbo keeps this up, it eases a lot of the stress off Smith IMO.

Andrews also gave quality minutes off the bench. Think she is much more under control now than she was earlier in the season.

Carrington seems to be going through a small funk but she still is too valuable to take off the floor.
 
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bballnut90 said:
Maybe it's the hair but reminded me of Seimone Augustus tonight from her LSU days with her crossovers and ability to score. If she continues to improve her perimeter game she'll be a stellar draft prospect next year.
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Now that we are going down memory lane.... Sorry Kim
 
PoppaBear said:
Flops are fixing to be Texas offense😁
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Pretty sure I saw plenty of flops from both teams tonight. Ursin's was the worst as she tried to draw the 5th foul on Collier.
 
I'm not necessarily convinced that Charli Collier should be the #1 draft pick in the WNBA draft, but those "experts" will decide that.

As we discuss the post players in tonight's game, here's how I see them:

- Charli Collier is a stretch-four player, not a Center, at the pro level. Her ability to hit the 3-pointer, excellent free throw shooter, size to rebound well, and a mid-range shot are all there. She is not as naturally athletic (running, jumping, quickness) as Queen Egbo and NaLyssa Smith. IMO, Collier needs to play next to a true Center to really be successful as a professional.

- NaLyssa Smith runs the floor like a man; and, that's a compliment as she just glides up and down the court. Great strength, body control, and hops. Getting better with her shooting range. Have no idea what position she will play in the WNBA.

- Queen Egbo is the best natural rebounder; that's the main reason why I wanted her at Texas. She also has great hops. She does have great touch near the basket, but not as offensively polished 10 feet away from the basket. Her only position as a pro is at Center, IMO, but she is undersized.
 
southie said:
I'm not necessarily convinced that Charli Collier should be the #1 draft pick in the WNBA draft, but those "experts" will decide that.

As we discuss the post players in tonight's game, here's how I see them:

- Charli Collier is a stretch-four player, not a Center, at the pro level. Her ability to hit the 3-pointer, excellent free throw shooter, size to rebound well, and a mid-range shot are all there. She is not as naturally athletic (running, jumping, quickness) as Queen Egbo and NaLyssa Smith. IMO, Collier needs to play next to a true Center to really be successful as a professional.

- NaLyssa Smith runs the floor like a man; and, that's a compliment as she just glides up and down the court. Great strength, body control, and hops. Getting better with her shooting range. Have no idea what position she will play in the WNBA.

- Queen Egbo is the best natural rebounder; that's the main reason why I wanted her at Texas. She also has great hops. She does have great touch near the basket, but not as offensively polished 10 feet away from the basket. Her only position as a pro is at Center, IMO, but she is undersized.
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Collier I could see being a similar player to Azura Stevens. She seems more comfortable inside than Stevens and has good upside. She's not a great #1 pick but has the best set of tools in her tool box of any prospect.

Smith will be the best pro IMO if she develops a better perimeter game. She has a knack for finding the basket and has a good frame and size to be a wing. Undersized to be a 4 but her handles look improved and if she continues to improve her midrange and perimeter shot, she has all the tools to be great.

Egbo is a big question mark for me. She's a fantastic rim to rim post and can hit shots but I dont think she has good touch around the rim and doesn't have the highest basketball IQ. She's very foul prone and lacks the size and strength to defend WNBA centers. I thought she'd be a lot more developed by now after she made solid strides a year ago. I see her as a Brianna Turner type of player without Turner's great defense which doesn't translate to being a mainstay as a pro IMO. Still has another year or 2 before she makes the jump but she'll need to improve quite a bit to be a solid WNBA player.
 
I feel like smith should be first team all American after today’s game! She has looked really good the latter half of the season! She started off slow but has come along great! Averaging 18 points, 9.3 rebounds, shooting 53 percent while being on a balanced team!
 
Baylor1994 said:
I feel like smith should be first team all American after today’s game! She has looked really good the latter half of the season! She started off slow but has come along great! Averaging 18 points, 9.3 rebounds, shooting 53 percent while being on a balanced team!
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And, against how many Top 25 teams did she amass those stats? That's what several posters say about Collier's stats.
 
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Dwilliams02 said:
Smith always puts up numbers against ranked teams. Too bad Baylor barely played any this year. But throughout her college career. Smith showed out more than Collier vs ranked teams
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I am not that sold on either Collier or Smith for success at the next level. Smith got those stats against ranked teams when she had Cox or Brown for the defense to focus on. She will have to play the wing in the Pro's and to do that she has to develop a 3pt shot. So far she is 3 for 22 at Baylor. She hit two in the game against Texas, but she seemed to be really at the top of her game in that one. Even though the announcer gave her credit for having a 3pt shot based on hitting two in that game, that is not enough for me. She needs to hit a lot more than 3 in three years to get credit for being able to hit 3's. Perhaps she has worked on her shot, but anyone can get hot for one game. The key is if she is able to consistently hit 3's which she has yet to show. But unlike Collier she still has one more year to improve her weaknesses.. I always say that no one is as good as their best game nor as bad as their worst.
 
Dwilliams02 said:
Smith always puts up numbers against ranked teams. Too bad Baylor barely played any this year. But throughout her college career. Smith showed out more than Collier vs ranked teams
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"Always", huh? I doubt that is a true statement as every player has a bad game here and there, or gets into foul trouble.
 
willtalk said:
I am not that sold on either Collier or Smith for success at the next level. Smith got those stats against ranked teams when she had Cox or Brown for the defense to focus on. She will have to play the wing in the Pro's and to do that she has to develop a 3pt shot. So far she is 3 for 22 at Baylor. She hit two in the game against Texas, but she seemed to be really at the top of her game in that one. Even though the announcer gave her credit for having a 3pt shot based on hitting two in that game, that is not enough for me. She needs to hit a lot more than 3 in three years to get credit for being able to hit 3's. Perhaps she has worked on her shot, but anyone can get hot for one game. The key is if she is able to consistently hit 3's which she has yet to show. But unlike Collier she still has one more year to improve her weaknesses.. I always say that no one is as good as their best game nor as bad as their worst.
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Agree with all of that. But, Mulkey couldn't help Nina Davis develop a consistent perimeter game which was going to be needed at the next level. So, not sold that NaLyssa is going to develop her consistent long-range shooting after next season at Baylor if she's not being allowed to use that skill set in college games very often.

Collier is a much better perimeter shooter than NaLyssa. She has several areas where she needs to improve to be a successful pro, but I don't think staying another year in college is going to necessarily help her improve in those areas.
 
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