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Caroline only played 6 minutes in the second half she had to play 16 minutes in the first half because of KML's foul situation. In the second half KML was able to play and was productive scoring 10 points. Geno got exactly what he needed from Caroline. She helped to burn minutes. Caoline had no stat line but made important contributions helping to spread the court for Tiff to attack and Dolson to work in the post.
Thank goodness Dolson really stepped up last night or else who knows what would have happened. Doty & Farris have to contribute in order for us to have a shot an the NC. Their poor performances are not the main reason we lost, but it certainley contributed.
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Not last night, not at all. In the first half we shot 51% as a team. Neither was going to help improve that by taking shots. We were getting very good shots and making them.
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My point is they did score doing exactly what was needed. Caroline was the available player to fill in with Bria and KML in foul trouble. She gave Geno exactly what he needed minutes. Kelly produced 6 assists and only two TOs. KML came in and scored, Most of the second half there were four scorers on the court. Kelly was feeding them the ball with 3 assists and 1 TO and pulling down 3 rebounds in 15 minutes.
Dolson and Hayes came out possessed. I could have been out there and we would have scored. Giving credit to Doty for that is a reach; a big one. Almost as big a reach as saying that there is not a production problem with Kelly and Doty.
It was 51 all and we were slugging it out with them. Who was on the floor when they pulled away?
It was 51 all and we were slugging it out with them. Who was on the floor when they pulled away?
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Sometimes it is useful to actually watch a game you comment on it.
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BTW, for me, to see Caroline compete with what she is challenged by, is inspiring. At the game, you get the full view of this.
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We all have a right to be happy, sad, angry, to congratulate, or to whine/complain about last night's game or any other game this season. But, let us not forget what UCONN has done in the past to other teams especially ND. When we had Maya, Tina, Renee, Kalana, etc. and we went undefeated, won the NC we destroyed teams throughout the year. So, ND finally won the BE out right. Good for them. As far as I'm concerned we are still the #1 program in America! And most teams would kill to have what we have. I am very proud of these group of young women because they do work their butts off everyday on and off the court.
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Doty was on for the first few points then at 58-53 it was KML, Bria, Stef, Kelly and Tiff. I don't believe that Caroline ever returned.
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For me, this photo said it all...
Exactly...thanks.
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Ice, I wish more people had your attitude when it comes to Tiffany. Not to drag her into the thread, but there are still people talking about how she hurt the team last night. I guess nothing will be enough for some people when it comes to Tiffany. 
I wonder why?
I wonder why?
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In Post #25 in this thread, vctwbuff nailed it. Lack of offense from Caroline and Kelly was a non-problem.
From the box score (and also based on seeing the game in person), the most crucial statistic was offensive rebounds:
Notre Dame: 14
UConn: 6
That led to:
Shots attempted:
Notre Dame: 65
UConn: 53
This completely nullified the fact that UConn shot 43% while Notre Dame shot 39%.
Other contributing factor:
Turnovers:
Notre Dame: 9
UConn: 17
The problem (and it was the same in the loss to St. Johns) is not inadequate offensive production and it is not defensive lapses -- it is: (a) inability to clear the defensive boards -- by far the biggest issue; and (b) turnovers.
The turnover problem is correctable and probably will be corrected -- UConn has usually been good in that department, even against good teams. But this team has a really serious problem with rebounding, even when they have a size advantage as they did against Notre Dame.
And I think the coaches are correct when they say it is mostly "above the shoulders" -- they are not inferior in size or strength to Notre Dame or St. Johns, but they are very much inferior in aggressiveness and quickness to the ball. Kiah's minutes were limited again last night because she could not (or did not) contend with the aggression of Peters, McBride, and Novosel under the basket, so she really could not contribute to the solution of the problem.
I am not sure that this problem can be repaired this season. If UConn fails to get to Denver, that will almost certainly be the reason.
The biggest improvement next year will not be the new freshmen, but the extra year of maturity for Stef and Kiah, which should result in their being more focused and determined on the boards. Peters and Novosel were not what they are today when they were sophomores, after all.
From the box score (and also based on seeing the game in person), the most crucial statistic was offensive rebounds:
Notre Dame: 14
UConn: 6
That led to:
Shots attempted:
Notre Dame: 65
UConn: 53
This completely nullified the fact that UConn shot 43% while Notre Dame shot 39%.
Other contributing factor:
Turnovers:
Notre Dame: 9
UConn: 17
The problem (and it was the same in the loss to St. Johns) is not inadequate offensive production and it is not defensive lapses -- it is: (a) inability to clear the defensive boards -- by far the biggest issue; and (b) turnovers.
The turnover problem is correctable and probably will be corrected -- UConn has usually been good in that department, even against good teams. But this team has a really serious problem with rebounding, even when they have a size advantage as they did against Notre Dame.
And I think the coaches are correct when they say it is mostly "above the shoulders" -- they are not inferior in size or strength to Notre Dame or St. Johns, but they are very much inferior in aggressiveness and quickness to the ball. Kiah's minutes were limited again last night because she could not (or did not) contend with the aggression of Peters, McBride, and Novosel under the basket, so she really could not contribute to the solution of the problem.
I am not sure that this problem can be repaired this season. If UConn fails to get to Denver, that will almost certainly be the reason.
The biggest improvement next year will not be the new freshmen, but the extra year of maturity for Stef and Kiah, which should result in their being more focused and determined on the boards. Peters and Novosel were not what they are today when they were sophomores, after all.
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