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2025 WCBB Coaches Hot Seat edition (merged)

XXXBgEast said:
Your joking, right?
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No.
All 2/3 JUST happened in the past week and the UVa news is still ongoing.
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And yet--it was common knowledge to those who post here that those moves were going to happen.
 
BadgerFan said:
Alvarez hasn't been AD for 3-4 years.

The fact Moseley resigned is really suspicious. I have to wonder if there was some truth to the allegations of abuse, and resigning lets her safe a little face.
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I will be taking a break for awhile.
 
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Vowelguy said:
TBF you pretty much have to say that while the season is still going.
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Well, yes. But his answer could've been more Kenny Brooksy than it was.
 
bballnut90 said:
Alvarez left in 2021.

I'm curious to see what Wisconsin does going forward. I feel like I make this post every 6 months, but here goes my Wisconsin rant/analysis:

They are in the middle of a recruiting hot bed, being located within a 4 hour drive from Minneapolis, Chicago, Milwaukee and Des Moines but haven't been able to land any top players. In state they've missed out on Megan Gustafson, Arike Ogunbowale, KK Arnold, Allie Ziebell, Lexi Donarski, and McKenna Warnock in recent years.

Women's basketball has been the notable black hole of a sports program for the last 20-30 years while every other sport has flourished for extended periods of time. They've never reached a Sweet 16 and seem to cycle through a new coaching tree every few years. They've tried hiring from Pat's coaching tree (Albright), Muffet's (Tsipis), Tara's (Kelsey) and now Geno's (Moseley) with only Albright finding some sustained success, but her teams often faltered late in the season.

There's really no reason why Wisconsin shouldn't be a top 15 program each year though. Madison is a great college town and extremely supportive of women's sports. They sell out every volleyball match and have one of the strongest fan bases in the country. When women's basketball was decent in the late 90s/early 2000s, they were among attendance leaders in the nation with Tennessee, Connecticut, Iowa State and Texas Tech. In short, all of the pieces are there for Wisconsin to be a giant in the sport, but they've never been able to find any success. Hopefully they shell out for a good coach who can recruit and build a solid team.
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New era. I don't want to pee in your Cheerios but I really don't think in the time of super leagues and NIL that a team that has not done anything in decades is going to be able to suddenly emerge as a power. Good (but not by no means great) WBB programs, like my Cyclones, are going to have a tough time even staying "good" here in Wisconsin's Midwest region. Throw in a soon to retire coach at ISU into the mix of NIL and super leagues and we might be in some big trouble especially if the coach runs out his watch with a senior class and nothing in the roster pipeline behind it. I seriously believe we have a two year window for a league title and NCAA run and then a period of great uncertainty and a real possibility or just wondering in the wilderness of WNIT and the like.

My hometown Gophers, another regional team to Wisconsin, continue to struggle even with a good fan base and a hot region for players. The best they have been able to do is "okay".

Of course it is not impossible, just improbable like TCU catching lightning in a bottle with a new coach and portal home runs but can they actually sustain that? Going to be tough act to follow for Mark Campbell but he's impressed so far.

With that said, I'd kill to have the Badgers volleyball success in any of ISU's women's sports.
 
12au said:
Mittie said unequivocally he's not interested in Mizzou job. Sounds like they're going after him anyway. I looked up his hometown and it's pretty much in the middle between Manhattan and Columbia.

www.nytimes.com

Women’s college basketball coaching carousel: Kellie Harper or Jeff Mittie to Mizzou?

Auburn, Arizona State and BYU are among programs looking for new coaches. Who might they hire?
www.nytimes.com www.nytimes.com
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He won't last five year at Missouri. He's never tasted a Sweet Sixteen in 26 seasons at TCU and KSU and both schools have been content with that. Would be a big risk to move and have goals and expectations he could not meet being applied. He can stay in the watered down Big 12 and survive as a middling team till be retires. No way he is up to building a program in a strong SEC.

Just my unqualified Big 12 guy opinion. ;)
 
HuskyFan1125 said:
Word on the street is Wilson at SMU is getting another because they don’t want to buy out her contract.

I look for Joe McKweon to retire before he gets let go. May get a push from administration but he is well liked at Northwestern.
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Being a nice guy has kept Uncle Joe around for a few years. It's becomes increasingly apparent, particularly since Veronica Burton left, that whatever once made him effective at GW and N'Western (for awhile) is not there anymore. Time to move on or sink further into the basement. Northwestern can fill a certain niche in the B1G (see Vandy & SEC), but the administration has to pay a good, youngish, energetic coach and give them a few years to establish a groundwork.
 
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Vowelguy said:
Ahh Charmin Smith is an interesting one. Definitely had a good year at Cal, and seems to have finally turned a corner.
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She's relied heavily on a blend of transfers, all of whom are out of eligibility, so this could be a good time to look...particularly if that position is in your home state (Smith, like Niele Ivey, is from St. Louis).
 
CalWBBfan said:
Charmin Smith won’t leave Berkeley. Are you kidding me?
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Skim's reporting on interviews. For all we know they made a request to talk and she did it out of courtesy. Considering she's local, per another poster, it's not a huge stretch.

Some posters have said the same about Mittie, who is also on this list. The name I'm curious about is the one Skim didn't mention.
 
cancontent said:
Skim's reporting on interviews. For all we know they made a request to talk and she did it out of courtesy. Considering she's local, per another poster, it's not a huge stretch.

Some posters have said the same about Mittie, who is also on this list. The name I'm curious about is the one Skim didn't mention.
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I get that they called Charmin, but Missouri is not the kind of institution where Smith would be happy. Raising the Bar tourney…Pride Night…etc. The culture at Cal is a much better fit on so many levels, academic and otherwise.
 
ISUnorth said:
New era. I don't want to pee in your Cheerios but I really don't think in the time of super leagues and NIL that a team that has not done anything in decades is going to be able to suddenly emerge as a power. Good (but not by no means great) WBB programs, like my Cyclones, are going to have a tough time even staying "good" here in Wisconsin's Midwest region. Throw in a soon to retire coach at ISU into the mix of NIL and super leagues and we might be in some big trouble especially if the coach runs out his watch with a senior class and nothing in the roster pipeline behind it. I seriously believe we have a two year window for a league title and NCAA run and then a period of great uncertainty and a real possibility or just wondering in the wilderness of WNIT and the like.

My hometown Gophers, another regional team to Wisconsin, continue to struggle even with a good fan base and a hot region for players. The best they have been able to do is "okay".

Of course it is not impossible, just improbable like TCU catching lightning in a bottle with a new coach and portal home runs but can they actually sustain that? Going to be tough act to follow for Mark Campbell but he's impressed so far.

With that said, I'd kill to have the Badgers volleyball success in any of ISU's women's sports.
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“Pee in your Cheerios” - what a disgusting thought☹️
 
ISUnorth said:
New era. I don't want to pee in your Cheerios but I really don't think in the time of super leagues and NIL that a team that has not done anything in decades is going to be able to suddenly emerge as a power. Good (but not by no means great) WBB programs, like my Cyclones, are going to have a tough time even staying "good" here in Wisconsin's Midwest region. Throw in a soon to retire coach at ISU into the mix of NIL and super leagues and we might be in some big trouble especially if the coach runs out his watch with a senior class and nothing in the roster pipeline behind it. I seriously believe we have a two year window for a league title and NCAA run and then a period of great uncertainty and a real possibility or just wondering in the wilderness of WNIT and the like.

My hometown Gophers, another regional team to Wisconsin, continue to struggle even with a good fan base and a hot region for players. The best they have been able to do is "okay".

Of course it is not impossible, just improbable like TCU catching lightning in a bottle with a new coach and portal home runs but can they actually sustain that? Going to be tough act to follow for Mark Campbell but he's impressed so far.

With that said, I'd kill to have the Badgers volleyball success in any of ISU's women's sports.
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Man, its like Illinois doesn't even exist.
 
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Dillon77 said:
Being a nice guy has kept Uncle Joe around for a few years. It's becomes increasingly apparent, particularly since Veronica Burton left, that whatever once made him effective at GW and N'Western (for awhile) is not there anymore. Time to move on or sink further into the basement. Northwestern can fill a certain niche in the B1G (see Vandy & SEC), but the administration has to pay a good, youngish, energetic coach and give them a few years to establish a groundwork.
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I met Joe back when he was at GW, he is indeed a nice guy, if a bit unusual. Still the only coach I've seen address the visiting fan group and thank them for coming.

What made him successful - and made Adia's reputation at Arizona - was having the right players at the right time. Granted Joe has aged, and my not have it anymore, but he also doesn't have the "right players" at the "right time". Neither does Adia. He had very talented players at GW, players that could have played in a power conference as we now see it. When your players are largely average - it is very hard to be much more than average.
 
cancontent said:


Seems like the likelihood of Neighbors being gone is increasing.
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It did seem kinda ridiculous that they couldn't find someone to pay 1.1m, so they were just gonna run it back. Not that much money.
 
12au said:
It did seem kinda ridiculous that they couldn't find someone to pay 1.1m, so they were just gonna run it back. Not that much money.
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Well, with Talia also confirming Northam's report, I'm guessing they found someone to fund it.
 
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So the Arkansas admins called Neighbors' bluff. They didn't pay buyout because they figured he'd resign anyway
 
dws3665 said:
That's just not it. Not saying that Neighbors is blameless (he definitely isn't), but the players who left did so for a variety of reasons. Most didn't hate playing for Neighbors - one did. Most of them like him.

Scott left because of locker room issues. Didn't like the fact that the upper classmen - especially Spencer, who was a very polarizing figure in the locker room -- treated her. A bit immature, a bit prima donna/me first, but didn't need to stand for some of the jealous, mean girl treatment she got.

Poffenbarger left for a few reasons, I think. She wanted to be nearer home, she didn't like getting yelled at consistently by her position coach, and she didn't want to play another year with Spencer. It wasn't just Scott who didn't like her.

Spencer left for money, plain and simple. She said so.

Dauda left because she didn't want to be the only good player left on the roster, and for better money (anything, literally, was better than what Arkansas was able to offer players last year). She barely gets scrub minutes at SC, which is really unfortunate.

Wolfenbarger - that's a different story. Lots of blame to go around here. She (and her family) did have beef with Neighbors, who they thought wasn't developing her to be a guard well enough. She also had some outside basketball things going on that interfered with her focus. A change of scene was probably what she needed. Though ... playing for Mulkey doesn't seem to have really upped her game all that much. At least she has accepted that she's better suited to play closer to the basket, which she would never have done at Arkansas.

Neighbors is responsible for the culture in the program, and he put too much faith in his seniors to keep things under control, imo. It blew up last year. And the crap recruiting the past two years just left the squad a shell of an SEC team.

Neighbors hasn't had any money to recruit since Scott's class signed. Which is why this year you had foreign kids and JUCOs mostly, and next year is two foreign kids and one pretty decent US player - and why he missed out on the top US kids he was going after (esp Snead). He claims that the Rev Share plan will allow them to be "uber aggressive" in the portal this offseason. We'll see.
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Welp, now he's gone.
 
Open 7: Auburn, Mizzou, Arkansas // Houston, BYU, ASU // Wisconsin

P4 changes that could still happen? (Years at school)
  • ACC: SMU (4)
  • SEC: TAMU, Georgia
  • BiG: NWern (17), Rutgers (3)
  • B12: TxT (5), UCF (2)
Prob safe: UVa (3), Ariz (9)
 
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Vowelguy said:
Open 6: Auburn, Mizzou, Arkansas // Houston, BYU, ASU

P4 changes that could still happen? (Years at school)
  • ACC: SMU (4)
  • SEC: TAMU, Georgia
  • BiG: NWern (17), Wisconsin (4), Rutgers (3)
  • B12: TxT (5), UCF (2)
Prob safe: UVa (3), Ariz (9)
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Shouldn't Wisconsin be included in the "Open" category?
 
12au said:
So the Arkansas admins called Neighbors' bluff. They didn't pay buyout because they figured he'd resign anyway
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Question: why would he resign instead of forcing them to fire him? Optics? He’s leaving over a million dollars on the table
 
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