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Dillon77

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This one is a little surprising to me. Thought she was getting better towards the end of the season. If memory is correct, this leaves Indiana really thin in the front court.
With Sydney Parrish and other moving on, I'm surprised that Meister is moving on, as well as this person.

 

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Going back in time. I remember when ND was first looking at point guards in this class -- Jada Williams and KK Arnold. Didn't get either.
Had to settle for some kid named Hidalgo.

Somehow Breya Cunningham named ND a finalist, but that didn't last. I suspect U$C might be interested in the SoCal native due to Rayah Marshall and Kiki Iriafen moving on!

And the rumored $800k USC paid Iriafen should peak Breya's interest . . . :p
 

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She may very well not enter. Today is barely the first day it opened. IMO, Vandy will still have to sweat it out until it closes unless they are ready to sign her to an NIL deal that makes her happy. Until then, she will have lots of people in her ear advising her to enter the portal and at least explore her options and listen to the pitches from other programs.
 
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They must have intercepted our discussion and took corrective action.

This is great news! Vandy has been building something, next step worth seeing.:D
Supposedly it wasn’t even a serious thing.

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Moren’s a great coach but next year could be a long one for Indiana. They’ve got Garzon back, but is that enough to build around?
True. Indiana is a puzzling program. Considering the success More has had these last few seasons have been underwhelming with respect to recruiting.
 
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Going back in time. I remember when ND was first looking at point guards in this class -- Jada Williams and KK Arnold. Didn't get either.
Had to settle for some kid named Hidalgo.

Somehow Breya Cunningham named ND a finalist, but that didn't last. I suspect U$C might be interested in the SoCal native due to Rayah Marshall and Kiki Iriafen moving on!
you will remember that I wanted Citron for UConn.....so we're even.........;)
 

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Moren’s a great coach but next year could be a long one for Indiana. They’ve got Garzon back, but is that enough to build around?
Hearing Garzón maybe leaving as well.
 

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They are screwed if that happens tbh
Well, if that's the case, it will also merit a serious sit-down between IU's coach and athletic director as to how the core group of players you have recruited from high school have all decided to leave when they should be chargin' at the bit to come back as upperclassmen, based on a fine performance in the NCAA's? Instead, they're seemingly hitting gym exits along with Chlore Moore-McNeil and Sydney Parrish, who have exhausted their eligibility.

Moren is a good coach, but also a tough one. Maybe Meister and Bargesser, both listed as juniors, have completed their studies for degrees and want to spend their last year somewhere else. If Garzon leaves, total rebuild.
 
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I think all these players leaving Indiana may end up being beneficial for Moren depending on how her portal haul shakes out. To compete with the top of the Big 10, Indiana has to get taller and more athletic. I think the players that are leaving have limitations that would have prevented Indiana from taking another step forward if they all returned.
 
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Well, if that's the case, it will also merit a serious sit-down between IU's coach and athletic director as to how the core group of players you have recruited from high school have all decided to leave when they should be chargin' at the bit to come back as upperclassmen, based on a fine performance in the NCAA's?
I feel this way about Graves at Oregon. He loses people yearly and many of them were excellent contributors on a successful program. However, the Ducks were back in the tournament this year and gave Duke a game in the 2nd round with a piecemeal team so something worked for them. The same could happen for Indiana.
 

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I feel this way about Graves at Oregon. He loses people yearly and many of them were excellent contributors on a successful program. However, the Ducks were back in the tournament this year and gave Duke a game in the 2nd round with a piecemeal team so something worked for them. The same could happen for Indiana.
Fair enough, but ...
A coaching staff goes through a boatload of resources in the pursuit of high school talent. And I'm not just talking NIL: time, countless phone calls, texts, trips to all sorts of people beyond the intended prospect. Retention, as any good employer will tell you, requires a different set of talents, but is equally important.

Now, coaches like Graves, Brenda Frees and, increasing, Walz at Louisville have gotten used to the turnstile effect. (In fact, almost thrive).
But in the case of Graves, he's almost got to start from scratch again....and there go those resources again; unless they're just upping the NIL ante to get Deja Kelly's to come out. Besides, think how a balance of HS players and key transfers would do, as opposed to (re)shuffling the deck chairs in Eugene every year?

Moren --up to now -- doesn't lose that many key players, but she's certainly augmented her roster with key transfers, starting with Ali Patberg and continuing with Sydney Parrish. But she's balanced this with key HS recruits and retention: McKenzie Holmes, Grace Berger, Chloe Moore-McNeil. If these folks leave, it's worth a chat: was this planned (go for more athletic players, as one poster suggested? What's up?)

Could just the price of admission into today's D-1 machinations.
 
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I think all these players leaving Indiana may end up being beneficial for Moren depending on how her portal haul shakes out. To compete with the top of the Big 10, Indiana has to get taller and more athletic. I think the players that are leaving have limitations that would have prevented Indiana from taking another step forward if they all returned.
She's known this for years but hasn't taken any major steps in recruiting (HS or portal) towards addressing it. These are the players she's targeted in recruiting and, by all indications, wants to coach. Am I supposed to believe that she had an epiphany two days ago?

IMO, she should consider a return to coaching at the midmajor level.
 

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