2025 MLB Playoffs Thread

[cwh20]

I said at the time it was a mistake taking Bichette out of the game and they would regret not having his bat, just like I said they would regret not having Bichette and Barger's bats in game 3. I was correct both times.

You did say that but that was the wrong move. You have to use a pinch runner.

Just for the heck of it, it would have played out with Bichette not even coming close to scoring on the force out at home and then the manager would get crushed for not using a pinch runner. If Bichette hadn’t been pinch run for initially he surely would have been once he was on third.

I do agree that he has to be at least as far off of third as Muncy is at minimum as some have mentioned. That’s a baseball rule that they ignored. He should have been able to score on that ground out.

 

[superjohn]

You did say that but that was the wrong move. You have to use a pinch runner.

Just for the heck of it, it would have played out with Bichette not even coming close to scoring on the force out at home and then the manager would get crushed for not using a pinch runner. If Bichette hadn’t been pinch run for initially he surely would have been once he was on third.

I do agree that he has to be at least as far off of third as Muncy is at minimum as some have mentioned. That’s a baseball rule that they ignored. He should have been able to score on that ground out.

Totally, you convinced me they needed Bichette's bat out of the lineup for this.

 

[John]

Totally, you convinced me they needed Bichette's bat out of the lineup for this.

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well, now that that's settled.......

 

[Scoe]

Totally, you convinced me they needed Bichette's bat out of the lineup for this.

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So it was better to be down a run a run against Yammamoto then to have already won the game in the 9th with the pr. You will point to this play as if you had already known the outcome before hand.

 

[superjohn]

So it was better to be down a run a run against Yammamoto then to have already won the game in the 9th with the pr. You will point to this play as if you had already known the outcome before hand.

They were down a run against Yamamoto with Bichette's position in the lineup up with 0 outs and Vlad on second base. I said they would regret taking Bichette out of the lineup and they did. Same thing I said about the bats being taken out in the 18 inning game. You say Bichette wouldn't have been able to hit Yamamoto when he was never given the chance. Kiner-Falefa was given the chance to run and he looked far more clueless than a Fairfield Little Leaguer doing it.

There is no point of a pinch runner if he's not allowed to run like every baseball player is taught to run since they learned the game or he's just totally incapable of knowing how to run the bases.

Again, I disagree with you.

 

[cwh20]

They were down a run against Yamamoto with Bichette's position in the lineup up with 0 outs and Vlad on second base. I said they would regret taking Bichette out of the lineup and they did. Same thing I said about the bats being taken out in the 18 inning game. You say Bichette wouldn't have been able to hit Yamamoto when he was never given the chance. Kiner-Falefa was given the chance to run and he looked far more clueless than a Fairfield Little Leaguer doing it.

There is no point of a pinch runner if he's not allowed to run like every baseball player is taught to run since they learned the game or he's just totally incapable of knowing how to run the bases.

Again, I disagree with you.

And as an analogy you could want Taliek to throw up a desperation three to beat Pitt. The results would back you up but no UConn fan was thinking that’s the play UConn wanted.

 

[FfldCntyFan]

In all candor I want to know what IKF was thinking when he was on third.

He won a gold glove there so he has to have a good amount of knowledge of that position and what the defense would normally do in that situation.

Once he saw the infield (including the third baseman) playing in, he should have taken a lead roughly one step further from third than the third baseman. There is very little chance of getting picked off as a throwaway from the catcher to a moving target who is moving away from where the throw was coming from.

He should have had a far better lead in the force at the plate and he should have run through the plate. There's a reason nobody slides into first. It slows you down, but it also (if you do it correctly) prevents you from overrunning the base (not applicable at first or home) and allows you to attempt avoiding a tag (not applicable in this case).

He screwed up on a couple levels.

 

[Scoe]

Freddy Guzman scores as a pr there no question about it.

 

[Gutter King]

In all candor I want to know what IKF was thinking when he was on third.

He won a gold glove there so he has to have a good amount of knowledge of that position and what the defense would normally do in that situation.

Once he saw the infield (including the third baseman) playing in, he should have taken a lead roughly one step further from third than the third baseman. There is very little chance of getting picked off as a throwaway from the catcher to a moving target who is moving away from where the throw was coming from.

He should have had a far better lead in the force at the plate and he should have run through the plate. There's a reason nobody slides into first. It slows you down, but it also (if you do it correctly) prevents you from overrunning the base (not applicable at first or home) and allows you to attempt avoiding a tag (not applicable in this case).

He screwed up on a couple levels.

The only explanation is that the dugout was shell shocked about getting doubled up the previous night...and maybe said "Whatever you do, don't get caught on a line drive." I mean, the Jays literally ran themselves out of this series and by game 7 it could have altered how they played that.

Edited to add: if that was from the coaching staff, they need to step up and protect the player at this point. If that was from the player, it's human to not want to get Barger'd but you can't skip fundamentals.

Edited again to add:
Justin Turner
"What’s the difference and why is the philosophy different? I think traditionally it is considered a much tougher play and higher chances of being safe with a great break when there IS NOT a force play at home.

"However, the assumption is, with a force play at home, most likely if an infielder catches the ball, the runner will be out at home. Therefore, you shorten up and don’t increase the risk of being doubled up on a line drive.

 

[Kolumbo]

explains the short lead