2023 Giants

[CardiacAndre7]

Yes, barely cracking 1k isnt special. You know who had more rushing yards than him that year? Marlon Mack. Carlos Hyde. Mark Ingram. Philip Lindsey. Chris Carson. Leonard Fournette. Saqoun finished 1 spot ahead of Sony Michel on the rushing list.

Glad you are not running the team (or UConn for that matter of Dan Hurley would be fired) because you'd be the one GM in the league giving him a big contract.

And FYI they play 2 halves in football, Dimes balled out in the 2nd to win that game.

Oh, and against that terrible D Saqoun averaged 3.7 yards per carry. Sick.

Lmao, he played 13 games my man. Yeah they play 2 halves of football, correct. We’ve played 6 halves. Half of DJ’s yards this season came in 1 half. 3/4 of his touchdowns came in 1 half. Ooph.

Saquon scored 2 touchdowns himself in the Arizona game, but you’d never give him credit for that, would ya? Don’t pick and choose when to blame the line, they all play behind it. But i’ll ask again just to be sure, has Daniel Jones been good thus far?

 

[Husky25]

So, that’s obviously 3 good years. And yes, I do think Saquon deserved a contract. Apparently Daniel Jones thinks he’s special too, because he’s spent his career dinking balls to him hoping Saquon can make a play.

I doubt Barkley is a Giant heading into the 2024 season. $10+ Million is a lot of money that can be spent on a couple quality veteran linemen AND a plug & play running back. Barkley will only be 27, but he's been ridden hard and those ain't highway miles.

 

[HeGotGame]

Lmao, he played 13 games my man. Yeah they play 2 halves of football, correct. We’ve played 6 halves. Half of DJ’s yards this season came in 1 half. 3/4 of his touchdowns came in 1 half. Ooph.

Saquon scored 2 touchdowns himself in the Arizona game, but you’d never give him credit for that, would ya? Don’t pick and choose when to blame the line, they all play behind it. But i’ll ask again just to be sure, has Daniel Jones been good thus far?

He scored on a 1 yard run and pass down the field from the QB. Throw a parade. Jones hasn't been good this year, Saqoun has been worse. I am not even going to touch on how poor of a pass blocker he is.

Yea, he played 13 games, because, like this year, and 4 of his 6 years, he got hurt. He loves to get hurt. Oh, and his YPC were similar to all those guys I listed.

Again, saying Saqoun is special is absolutely laughable.

 

[CardiacAndre7]

I doubt Barkley is a Giant heading into the 2024 season. $10+ Million is a lot of money that can be spent on a couple quality veteran linemen AND a plug & play running back. Barkley will only be 27, but he's been ridden hard and those ain't highway miles.

I don’t either, and the offense is gonna look that much worse without him as a safety blanket.

 

[CardiacAndre7]

He scored on a 1 yard run and pass down the field from the QB. Throw a parade. Jones hasn't been good this year, Saqoun has been worse. I am not even going to touch on how poor of a pass blocker he is.

Yea, he played 13 games, because, like this year, and 4 of his 6 years, he got hurt. He loves to get hurt. Oh, and his YPC were similar to all those guys I listed.

Again, saying Saqoun is special is absolutely laughable.

Running backs get hurt…Especially at his usage. This is not some out of the ordinary thing. Maybe as we were running down the clock to waste time for the field goal Daboll should’ve taken him out of the game.

4.6 ypc with a terrible line is very good, no? Either way, 2022 he had a great year, did he not? Let’s use the most recent season, probably the best call. 4th in the league in rushing, never fumbles, great pass catching back.

 

[mauconnfan]

Lmao, he played 13 games my man. Yeah they play 2 halves of football, correct. We’ve played 6 halves. Half of DJ’s yards this season came in 1 half. 3/4 of his touchdowns came in 1 half. Ooph.

Saquon scored 2 touchdowns himself in the Arizona game, but you’d never give him credit for that, would ya? Don’t pick and choose when to blame the line, they all play behind it. But i’ll ask again just to be sure, has Daniel Jones been good thus far?

You sound like Adam Schein, once again no Jones wasn’t good. But no QB in the league would have been with that line and protection,
No one! It’s an actual unknown how good he is or can be and an unfair analysis with this pathetic line and offense. Purdy is great right? No he has a superior line and the best weapons in the game. Giants DBacks had 2-3 picks with hands last night as well.

 

[CardiacAndre7]

You sound like Adam Schein, once again no Jones wasn’t good. But no QB in the league would have been with that line and protection,
No one! It’s an actual unknown how good he is or can be and an unfair analysis with this pathetic line and offense. Purdy is great right? No he has a superior line and the best weapons in the game. Giants DBacks had 2-3 picks with hands last night as well.

I guess we’ll see in the upcoming weeks. But, you’re gonna play tough defense and they are gonna get pressure. Sometimes you do have to make plays. What annoys me the most with DJ is deep ball accuracy, it’s rarely in the right place. Purdy had a perfect pass to Deebo for the last score, in a spot only he could catch. DJ had Waller relatively open on a deep ball and was just way off with the throw. It’s been like this for a while, he under throws guys down the field, or leads them too far to the sideline. And yes, its even when he has time in the pocket.

 

[mauconnfan]

I guess we’ll see in the upcoming weeks. But, you’re gonna play tough defense and they are gonna get pressure. Sometimes you do have to make plays. What annoys me the most with DJ is deep ball accuracy, it’s rarely in the right place. Purdy had a perfect pass to Deebo for the last score, in a spot only he could catch. DJ had Waller relatively open on a deep ball and was just way off with the throw. It’s been like this for a while, he under throws guys down the field, or leads them too far to the sideline. And yes, its even when he has time in the pocket.

Yeah he sucks!

 

[CardiacAndre7]

Yeah he sucks!

I’m curious, is no criticism allowed? Is this like a President in wartime? He had a great half. The rest has been rough. The whole team has been poor. But he’s the leader and on a hell of a comtract.

 

[mauconnfan]

I’m curious, is no criticism allowed? Is this like a President in wartime? He had a great half. The rest has been rough. The whole team has been poor. But he’s the leader and on a hell of a comtract.

Of course there’s criticism but you’re relentless. You don’t think he’s good and who cares honestly about the contract? You can’t carry an awful team on your back which is what they have been. I guess Dabol and Schoen see something you don’t because they wouldn’t hand out money for a bum. You talk about an under thrown ball and overthrown ball and he did. And it kills then because they’re not the Niners. Purdy overthrew and under threw as well shoo po hold have been picked off twice in the first half but look at his defense it’s phenomenal it gets him the ball in positive field position quite stem huge difference in a game.

I like our guy think he’s a huge disadvantage going into most ever game and you think I’m he sucks. That’s fine whatever.

 

[CardiacAndre7]

Of course there’s criticism but you’re relentless. You don’t think he’s good and who cares honestly about the contract? You can’t carry an awful team on your back which is what they have been. I guess Dabol and Schoen see something you don’t because they wouldn’t hand out money for a bum. You talk about an under thrown ball and overthrown ball and he did. And it kills then because they’re not the Niners. Purdy overthrew and under threw as well shoo po hold have been picked off twice in the first half but look at his defense it’s phenomenal it gets him the ball in positive field position quite stem huge difference in a game.

I like our guy think he’s a huge disadvantage going into most ever game and you think I’m he sucks. That’s fine whatever.

I think he’s not as good as you think he is, and you think he’s better than I think he is. The defenses have been tough and the line has been very bad, but passing for 150 yards on 30+ attempts is far too common with him.

 

[mauconnfan]

I think he’s not as good as you think he is, and you think he’s better than I think he is. The defenses have been tough and the line has been very bad, but passing for 150 yards on 30+ attempts is far too common with him.

Yup we won’t agree at all. Give him Purdys info last night he does just as well or better. The common theme isn’t just his light passing numbers it’s how bad his line has been for years. Think they’ll eventually get it right but Gettleman fd it up badly. Good news is Schoen and Dabol agree with me!

 

[CardiacAndre7]

Yup we won’t agree at all. Give him Purdys info last night he does just as well or better. The common theme isn’t just his light passing numbers it’s how bad his line has been for years. Think they’ll eventually get it right but Gettleman fd it up badly. Good news is Schoen and Dabol agree with me!

I mean, you’ve said this about multiple QBs at this point. “Give him this person’s line”. Don’t know if it was you but someone in this thread said he was better than Jalen Hurts. Which is absolutely ridiculous.

Either way, important stretch of games. If he steps up I will be first to praise, if he doesn’t, I hope you can also find it in yourself to be critical.

 

[mauconnfan]

I mean, you’ve said this about multiple QBs at this point. “Give him this person’s line”. Don’t know if it was you but someone in this thread said he was better than Jalen Hurts. Which is absolutely ridiculous.

Either way, important stretch of games. If he steps up I will be first to praise, if he doesn’t, I hope you can also find it in yourself to be critical.

Certainly never said he was better than Hurts, but how can we really tell we can’t. Just one OL guys stats last night Lemiuex 5 hurries, 4 pressures and 1 sack. That’s just one of the stiffs on that line. Hurts has like 3-4 all pro lineman huge difference.

If he’s allowed to step up and doesn’t I will join you. But if he’s running for his life like most drop backs we won’t come close to agreeing that’s the only promise I can make. I watch the team not the QB only.

 

[FfldCntyFan]

We kind of got lucky on defense, at the tail end of SF's first drive, forcing them to kick a FG but if your defensive philosophy is to let them march downfield, hoping they either get bored and do something stupid or make a mistake and kick a FG, you should be coaching HS in a place where they don't take football seriously.

On the first play of our second possession someone came up with the brilliant idea of have a second year TE block Bosa on a pass play. Neal blocked down to his left (as did the entire offensive line, indicating that was the plan) and Bellinger whiffed on arguably the best pass rushing DE in the league. The game was over on that play.

As banged up as we are we couldn't have expected to win without a) playing over our heads in a few spots, b) having a narrow game plan to prevent our offensive line from hurting us too much and c) play mistake free football. We missed on all three.

I am furious about the two man front we run 60% of our standard defense. This more than anything killed us on far too many third downs and led to a number of instances where the didn't get to third down. We seem to be happy allowing a team to run the ball six-eight yards a pop as long as it limits their pass attempts. I don't get it.

 

[mauconnfan]

I know it means little but hate the decision to chase points what was he thinking? Kick the extra point please 17-13 then when they do kick the FG like they did, you only need 7 not 8. Very poor decision there.

Crazy thing at 20-12 you knew they wouldn’t win, even at 17-12 but as bad as they were playing they were in it. Couple awful interference calls and roughing the QB was dreadful. They can’t afford to get screwed like that.

 

[Scoe]

I know it means little but hate the decision to chase points what was he thinking? Kick the extra point please 17-13 then when they do kick the FG like they did, you only need 7 not 8. Very poor decision there.

Crazy thing at 20-12 you knew they wouldn’t win, even at 17-12 but as bad as they were playing they were in it. Couple awful interference calls and roughing the QB was dreadful. They can’t afford to get screwed like that.

The nfl is soft I say when the refs throw a BS roughing the passer, you drill their qb right into the ground the next play look toward the refs and say now that’s an fn personal foul.

 

[Yardigan]

The nfl is soft I say when the refs throw a BS roughing the passer, you drill their qb right into the ground the next play look toward the refs and say now that’s an fn personal foul.

That would probably be more entertaining than most anything they've done so far this year...

 

[Palatine]

Jones was a .500 QB at Duke! There's where my expectations are for the Giants. Depending on the week he is between the #15 and #25 QB in the NFL. There's where he has been for his entire pro career. Expecting anything different is simply not supported by evidence.

I'm a Giants fan, so I will watch and root for them. But that doesn't mean I will throw my brain in the garbage disposal.

 

[mauconnfan]

Jones was a .500 QB at Duke! There's where my expectations are for the Giants. Depending on the week he is between the #15 and #25 QB in the NFL. There's where he has been for his entire pro career. Expecting anything different is simply not supported by evidence.

I'm a Giants fan, so I will watch and root for them. But that doesn't mean I will throw my brain in the garbage disposal.

Mahomes was a few games under .500 in college. Neither played at major football programs we know that. So the college record is an excellent way for expectations.

 

[HeGotGame]

Jones was a .500 QB at Duke! There's where my expectations are for the Giants. Depending on the week he is between the #15 and #25 QB in the NFL. There's where he has been for his entire pro career. Expecting anything different is simply not supported by evidence.

I'm a Giants fan, so I will watch and root for them. But that doesn't mean I will throw my brain in the garbage disposal.

You have a brain?

I like when the Giants and UConn win because its crickets from the typical clowns who are unable to put together a thought deeper than: "He played at Duke he stinks!" or "UConn lost fire Hurley!"

 

[HeGotGame]

You want the Giants to win games, well fix the line and teach them to tackle.

The Giants were credited with 16 (!) missed, per PFF. Most of the issues were in the secondary. Tackling grades for the following: Deonte Banks (30.1), Jason Pinnock (25.8), Tre Hawkins (26.3).

Steve Palazzolo



@PFF_Steve


Last night's Giants pass-blocking grade is the third-worst we've seen since 2020. Daniel Jones pressured on half of his dropbacks and average time to pressure was 2.2 seconds, faster than Week 1 vs. Dallas

 

[CardiacAndre7]

You want the Giants to win games, well fix the line and teach them to tackle.

The Giants were credited with 16 (!) missed, per PFF. Most of the issues were in the secondary. Tackling grades for the following: Deonte Banks (30.1), Jason Pinnock (25.8), Tre Hawkins (26.3).

Steve Palazzolo

@PFF_Steve


Last night's Giants pass-blocking grade is the third-worst we've seen since 2020. Daniel Jones pressured on half of his dropbacks and average time to pressure was 2.2 seconds, faster than Week 1 vs. Dallas

The defense was 100% the main issue. Wink is supposed to be this tough guy coach but these guys simply cannot tackle. Even Mckinney has been awful tackling this year it seems.

 

[Yardigan]

The defense was 100% the main issue. Wink is supposed to be this tough guy coach but these guys simply cannot tackle. Even Mckinney has been awful tackling this year it seems.

Hey, they might not be the best tacklers in the world, but at least they can't cover anyone either.

 

[CardiacAndre7]

Team is laughable

 

[Yardigan]

And...they have TWO MORE primetime games....how does that happen?

 

[Huskygamble19]

sloppy ..not taking care of the ball. Nothing to like about this team right now. Just a disgusting exhibition.

 

[CardiacAndre7]

Oh brother this guy stinks…

 

[Huskygamble19]

thats the icing on the cake. Terrible pass by Jones. Threw it right to the defender. Fire him straight to the moon.

 

[mauconnfan]

That was an absolutely dreadful pass but if that’s all you take out of this you’re an idiot. Biggest takes are disgusting offensive line not even NFL capable none of them. Special teams were beyond dreadful as well as the tackling.

Embarrassing to be a Giant fan need the Huskies to start sooner rather than later