2022 Recruiting Thread | Page 27 | The Boneyard

2022 Recruiting Thread

Status
Not open for further replies.
To sign 7 out of 11 known recruits form Florida, our highest rated non-transfer recruit since 2013 from Texas, 2 kids the staff coveted from Pennsylvania, keeping a top CT kid home, and 1 more commitment out there, I'd say this could be our best class in a long long time. Kudos to Randy and the entire staff they are getting it done in impressive fashion considering they didn't play a down last year.
Well said - it’s a sea change improvement by the staff. It is not an incremental change. It should not be minimized the lept they have made through hard work and the willingness to make necessary changes. And so many of the older guys who post here, tend to underestimate the value of “youthful enthusiasm”. It’s out there this year in both the younger staff members and the recruits and dare I even say the older and most senior staff members .
 
Last edited:
LOL - pretty selective - I believe UConn took a big hit the previous year. So combine the two years. But true the big schools have 3 and 4 star kids on the bench who are incented to transfer because they would get immediate playing time.
At any rate, it worked out great and was timed perfectly with the Great Recruiting Pivot.
Again, you don't understand what is going on in the football portal. Did you read the article from 24/7 that I linked? In the 2019/2020 transfer cycle, only 27% of P5 transfers ended up at another P5 school and only 53% of P5 transfers ended up at an FBS school. The 2020/2021 transfer cycle is looking like it will be much worse outcomes for P5 transfers due to the sheer volume of transfers.

As for UConn transfers over the past 2 years, according to 24/7, there have been 28. This is about average or below average relative to FBS schools. For local schools, Rutgers has had 30, BC 25, Syracuse 22, Maryland 35, Penn St. 27, Virginia Tech 33, UMass 29, West Virginia 32. Some other schools I looked at: Nebraska 38, Michigan 32, Florida St. 30, but the most surprising numbers come from the top 3 P5 football programs with Ohio St. at 9, Clemson at 11, and Alabama at 21. In other words, the top recruits are willing to stay at the top programs if they are winning even though they may be on the bench.
 
Again, you don't understand what is going on in the football portal. Did you read the article from 24/7 that I linked? In the 2019/2020 transfer cycle, only 27% of P5 transfers ended up at another P5 school and only 53% of P5 transfers ended up at an FBS school. The 2020/2021 transfer cycle is looking like it will be much worse outcomes for P5 transfers due to the sheer volume of transfers.

As for UConn transfers over the past 2 years, according to 24/7, there have been 28. This is about average or below average relative to FBS schools. For local schools, Rutgers has had 30, BC 25, Syracuse 22, Maryland 35, Penn St. 27, Virginia Tech 33, UMass 29, West Virginia 32. Some other schools I looked at: Nebraska 38, Michigan 32, Florida St. 30, but the most surprising numbers come from the top 3 P5 football programs with Ohio St. at 9, Clemson at 11, and Alabama at 21. In other words, the top recruits are willing to stay at the top programs if they are winning even though they may be on the bench.
Your conclusions may be right, but without doing in depth objective reviews of all schools it's pretty presumptuous to say someone doesn't understand what's going on in the portal, as if you assuredly do.

You read it one way, others may read it another, and there's always outliers.

For example, maybe the recruits at the three schools you showed with "the most surprising numbers" were better vetted by superior staffs and actually belong there.

Then, if you say Alabama (with 21 in the portal) belongs in the grouping with Clemson and Ohio St, why doesn't Syracuse with only 22 portal entrants? Their number is closer to Ohio St than to Nebraska.
 
Texas TE/ATH to BC
 
Last edited:
#1 rated play in NH with family connections to UConn commits to Buffalo. While many on the staff seem to be following Jackson, he opted not to camp here and he was never offered. Since he's a new england kid with family connections and at least early in the process seemed to want to be a part of UConn I think he is one to keep an eye on in the years ahead.
 
Last edited:
.-.
Your conclusions may be right, but without doing in depth objective reviews of all schools it's pretty presumptuous to say someone doesn't understand what's going on in the portal, as if you assuredly do.

You read it one way, others may read it another, and there's always outliers.

For example, maybe the recruits at the three schools you showed with "the most surprising numbers" were better vetted by superior staffs and actually belong there.

Then, if you say Alabama (with 21 in the portal) belongs in the grouping with Clemson and Ohio St, why doesn't Syracuse with only 22 portal entrants? Their number is closer to Ohio St than to Nebraska.
The average school has about 20 kids in the portal this year so UConn losing 28 kids over 2 years seems to put UConn in the middle or below for transfers based on the total numbers of transfers last year. There are many articles published on the subject and I linked one so I didn’t add up the total for over 100 schools myself. As for the 3 top schools I mentioned, I think some people think many highly rated kids transfer if they are not starting, but that’s not the case at Ohio St., Clemson, and Alabama which I think speaks to team culture.
 
but that’s not the case at Ohio St., Clemson, and Alabama which I think speaks to team culture.

probably legacy plays a huge part in this. being on a winner then being patient enough to get your turn for a year or 2 before graduating...
 
Your conclusions may be right, but without doing in depth objective reviews of all schools it's pretty presumptuous to say someone doesn't understand what's going on in the portal, as if you assuredly do.

You read it one way, others may read it another, and there's always outliers.

For example, maybe the recruits at the three schools you showed with "the most surprising numbers" were better vetted by superior staffs and actually belong there.

Then, if you say Alabama (with 21 in the portal) belongs in the grouping with Clemson and Ohio St, why doesn't Syracuse with only 22 portal entrants? Their number is closer to Ohio St than to Nebraska.
I agree, a narrow analysis which doesn’t account for a whole host of variables.
 
Not for nothing, but could 247 be any more asleep at the wheel? They are missing 2 commits altogether, and have only rated 3 of the 9 commits they have listed and of those for 2 or 3 of them they didn't even have UConn on their list of teams recruiting them before they committed. Not a great look for sure.
 
.-.
Not for nothing, but could 247 be any more asleep at the wheel? They are missing 2 commits altogether, and have only rated 3 of the 9 commits they have listed and of those for 2 or 3 of them they didn't even have UConn on their list of teams recruiting them before they committed. Not a great look for sure.
Not for nuttin’ but Rivals isn’t much better w/ only 8 of 11 commits listed (despite have a dedicated UConn page in StorrsCentral). Still missing Brinson, McGill and Jean (and Jean has a Rivals rating already). It’s a farce.
 
Not for nothing, but could 247 be any more asleep at the wheel? They are missing 2 commits altogether, and have only rated 3 of the 9 commits they have listed and of those for 2 or 3 of them they didn't even have UConn on their list of teams recruiting them before they committed. Not a great look for sure.
If you want recruiting coverage and rankings, your fan base has to subscribe to the service. It's pretty simple.
 
The average school has about 20 kids in the portal this year so UConn losing 28 kids over 2 years seems to put UConn in the middle or below for transfers based on the total numbers of transfers last year. There are many articles published on the subject and I linked one so I didn’t add up the total for over 100 schools myself. As for the 3 top schools I mentioned, I think some people think many highly rated kids transfer if they are not starting, but that’s not the case at Ohio St., Clemson, and Alabama which I think speaks to team culture.

This discussion has digressed. The original question is about whether or not UConn suffered the exodus predicted by some on this board for sitting out the 2020 season. Its all about the period since August 2020, efforts to mesh 2019 and 2018 activity in this discussion are just silly attempts to distract.

So lets use our old AAC as our peer group;
Outbound transfers since Aug 2020:
UConn: 7
Temple: 18
Cincy: 9
ECU: 14
Houston: 12
Memphis: 26
SMU: 9
Tulane: 10
Tulsa: 6
UCF: 16
USF: 17
Navy: 7

Conclusion - UConn has faired well, others were wrong.
 
.-.
This discussion has digressed. The original question is about whether or not UConn suffered the exodus predicted by some on this board for sitting out the 2020 season. Its all about the period since August 2020, efforts to mesh 2019 and 2018 activity in this discussion are just silly attempts to distract.

So lets use our old AAC as our peer group;
Outbound transfers since Aug 2020:
UConn: 7
Temple: 18
Cincy: 9
ECU: 14
Houston: 12
Memphis: 26
SMU: 9
Tulane: 10
Tulsa: 6
UCF: 16
USF: 17
Navy: 7

Conclusion - UConn has faired well, others were wrong.
Try the full body of work from September 2019 to December 2020. By then whoever was leaving had left.
 
Last edited:
Moving the goal posts? No one who left in 2019 and the spring of 2020 had any idea there would be no 2020 season. This is all about the position some took around here that not playing in 2020 would lead to player exodus and said it would impair recruiting going forward.

A lot of casual fans out there.
 
Last edited:
Give it a rest…
Chief will but the staff won’t. The days of if he doesn’t want to be here, we don’t want him - are over. The staff is going full out to convince people - they want to be here. It is now the place to be. Full pedal to the metal.
 
Moving the goal posts? No one who left in 2019 and the spring of 2020 had any idea there would be no 2020 season. This is all about the position some took around here that not playing in 2020 would lead to player exodus and said it would impair recruiting going forward.

A lot of casual fans out there.
It’s all good the way we are recruiting and failure actually created the opportunity that we have now have. But, selectively playing with the dates to not count 20 transfers is a silly recreation of history. What happened, happened and a plan is in place to capitalize on it. It’s all turned out good.
 
It’s all good the way we are recruiting and failure actually created the opportunity that we have now have. But, selectively playing with the dates to not count 20 transfers is a silly recreation of history. What happened, happened and a plan is in place to capitalize on it. It’s all turned out good.
Read this now because I know your a protected citizen on the board who gets special treatment (ie posts challenging you are routinely deleted). You attacked this program last fall and said not playing would lead to transfers and recruiting challenges going forward. Just like the 11:11 game thing you were wrong. I didn't really care about your faux insider miss on this subject until you jumped in here a couple days ago with total nonsense trying to attribute Randy's recent recruiting success to learning from the MBB program and vainly suggesting you had influenced the matter.

All that Randy is doing is following the plan he had is place since the beginning. Yes the plan stumbled when his first two coordinators didn't work out. But now he has staff continuity and collectively they have improved at the process on their own.
 
.-.
Ahh, yep I knew we had this conversation once before. Back on 9/30/20 a certain someone said "just about everyone wants out" and then what, three more guys left after that moment....well short of anything close to "everyone" by any stretch of the imagination. And I know one of those three was basically an academic casualty...barely attended classes that semester.

Yep, some said the sky is falling....and it wasn't.

Some casual fan 9/30/20: "Just about everyone wants out."

 
Last edited:
Ahh, yep I knew we had this conversation once before. Back on 9/30/20 a certain someone said "just about everyone wants out" and then what, three more guys left after that moment....well short of anything close to "everyone" by any stretch of the imagination. And I know one of those three was basically an academic casualty...barely attended classes that semester.

Yep, some said the sky is falling....and it wasn't.


Boom - Article about the 20 who left after 2019 season and I see you distorted my comments about the pandemic. I did not say guys would transfer, I said guys wanted out which was the sentiment from actual conversations. I said “some, of course don’t have other options”. And we “just had 20 guys transfer out”. So you were very deceptive in your false categorization. I said then what I am saying now.
Guys stayed for a whole lot of practical reasons despite their sentiment - after the drain of 20 players - there was playing time available at many positions, some were advancing along in their majors and others had family or friendships etc.
 
Last edited:
Boom - Article about the 20 who left after 2019 season and I see you distorted my comments about the pandemic. I did not say guys would transfer, I said guys wanted out which was the sentiment from actually conversations - guys stayed for a whole lot of practical reasons despite their sentiment - after the drain of players - there was playing time available at many positions, some were advancing along in their majors and others had family or friendships etc.
2019 has nothing to do with anything. In 2019 I don't recall you being upset about Randy letting his Diaco kids go. The roster turnover was needed. You were sour on this program last fall, that is clear in the transfer thread linked above.

Boom - your faux insider call about roster turmoil last fall was wrong. Tough being causal, someday you'll get it buddy!

Pop quiz, of all the 2018 and 2019 transfers, which ones actually hurt the program? Answer - Tyler Davis, Darrius Beavers and Keyion Dixon. All the other losses really didn't matter from a W-L standpoint.
 
In the middle or a recruiting topic we need to dwell on those who have left? Please give it a rest.
 
Largely WPOs and many kids for reasons were dropping down the depth chart seeking playing time at lower levels of comp. People are getting bent over the Mason Donaldsons and Noel Brouses that were on the team?
 
.-.
Status
Not open for further replies.

Forum statistics

Threads
168,320
Messages
4,563,211
Members
10,459
Latest member
SeanElAmin


Top Bottom