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When I asked the question early in the thread I didn't expect this. My apologies to the board. On the other hand, I did learn a few things. I don't think it's necessary to change anybody's view. If the staff has a view, that will be the one that counts. The tone of the conversation on this has been adversarial, but the input both ways has been legitimate. Next time I'll think before I hit 'post reply'.
 
@HuskyWarrior611 maybe your point is extreme dips are bad, which I think everyone would probably agree with for the most part. You should definitely concede that even great shooters such as Ray, klay, and Steph DIP the ball when catching and shooting. There was literally still frame and video evidence to look at. To say there’s no dip in those would be lying.
 
@HuskyWarrior611 maybe your point is extreme dips are bad, which I think everyone would probably agree with for the most part. You should definitely concede that even great shooters such as Ray, klay, and Steph DIP the ball when catching and shooting. There was literally still frame and video evidence to look at. To say there’s no dip in those would be lying.
Yeah I tried to say that our definitions of the dip we’re talking about are different. We can go with this. My main point about DC was that he should cut some of his unecessary dip and it was met with heavy pushback. Like people celebrating the point he made kind of pushback which was weird. I don’t think the guys in the examples dip as much as DC in his shot. Here’s a guy who a lot on this board would say is our best shooter who has very little dip in his shot.



Whaley is just another example of guys in our own program who’s jumpshot has improved from removing unecessary dip making it a quicker and smoother shot. Andre should be working on doing the same.
 
At least nobody is " double dipping"
 

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Yeah I tried to say that our definitions of the dip we’re talking about are different. We can go with this. My main point about DC was that he should cut some of his unecessary dip and it was met with heavy pushback. Like people celebrating the point he made kind of pushback which was weird. I don’t think the guys in the examples dip as much as DC in his shot. Here’s a guy who a lot on this board would say is our best shooter who has very little dip in his shot.



Whaley is just another example of guys in our own program who’s jumpshot has improved from removing unecessary dip making it a quicker and smoother shot. Andre should be working on doing the same.

The video you posted polley is dipping in every 3 in the first minute. So how is that arguing against dipping?
 
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The video you posted polley is dipping in every 3 in the first minute. So how is that arguing against dipping?
There's a clear difference in the motion in Polley's shot and Andre's. If that can't be understood then idk. I call it a dip. I don't know what y'all would call it. In that very first shot to me he catches the ball and rises straight up with it. No wasted motion.
 
There's a clear difference in the motion in Polley's shot and Andre's. If that can't be understood then idk. I call it a dip. I don't know what y'all would call it. In that very first shot to me he catches the ball and rises straight up with it. No wasted motion.
Literally watch the video and look at all the 3s if you don’t refer to what polley is doing as a dip that’s fine but the rest of the world calls it a dip. Comparing him to an awful shooter proves what exactly?
 
Literally watch the video and look at all the 3s if you don’t refer to what polley is doing as a dip that’s fine but the rest of the world calls it a dip. Comparing him to an awful shooter proves what exactly?
What would you call the difference in Polley’s motion and the difference in Andre’s?
 
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A large dip vs an extreme dip. I honestly think you have to be trolling at this point, it's the only explanation
I think I’m the one getting trolled here. This must be my karma for saying DC is a taller Tyler Oleander so I must be cursed in all his threads moving forward.
 
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I think I’m the one getting trolled here. This must be my karma for saying DC is a taller Tyler Oleander so I must be cursed in all his threads moving forward.
No trolling, will you admit after all the evidence presented to you in this thread that having a dip doesn't make you a bad shooter?
 
No trolling, will you admit after all the evidence presented to you in this thread that having a dip doesn't make you a bad shooter?
We disagree on what constitutes as a dip. The dips I refer too are the ones like Andre’s, early stage Kemba’s etc where they drop the ball almost to their knees. That’s a bad shooter. That’s a lot of wasted motion and movement. The dips you all are referring to has no wasted motion or movement outside of Ray’s. I will give you all him. Everyone else is more setting their shot to me. But that’s why I tried to give examples of the kind of bad dips I was referring to so you can see where I’m coming from. Husky got very spicy in his response to me and people seemed to celebrate and cheer on. That’s weird. Naturally there’s going to be a more aggressive tone after that.
 
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Don't give a flip about a clip about the dip. Big Dipper vs Little Dipper?? Gotta tip. Could give a rip.

Can a player with a chip help deliver the 5th "Ship?? I'm hip with that nip.

Yipping and quipping about the dipping ?? You're trippin'
 
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I think I’m the one getting trolled here. This must be my karma for saying DC is a taller Tyler Oleander so I must be cursed in all his threads moving forward.
I think people think your trolling because your posting videos of guys dipping and saying you can’t see it. But let’s leave the thread alone at this point….best of luck wit the jumper Donovan
 
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I'm curious about a coaches viewpoint. His 3 point shot is effective which is most important, however, as part of the rhythm of his shot he frequently brings the ball down to his waist to gather to raise to take the shot. It would seem the pause to make that motion allows time for a defender to close, and, the ball is vulnerable to a defender with quick hands while he is doing that. It is unavoidable when he is catching a bounce pass at his waist like the first shots in the clip. If he was down low you would have the pass high, catch high, and keep the ball high, so small players can't easily defend. On one of the passes he caught at a higher point I think he also brought the ball down to that same position to gather, raise, and shoot. Would coaches try to get the ball to him at a higher point and coach not going down to his waist as part of his 3 point shot? Or, would they not mess with the rhythm because it is effective, and just run with shots where he has the space to do what he does? Would they try to speed up that part of the rhythm? Love that the ball goes in the hoop, just curious if a coach sees something there for Donovan to improve on.

Like what I see and see what you are saying. But i will say this he is 7’ plus and when he’s shooting 3s many times will be off a switch so a smaller guy or a bigger guy who can’t get out fast enough. A little improvement maybe but what I see there is a great start for DC.
 
So excited to have him! CT kid who seems to have a strong work ethic. If he’s really 7’1 with no shoes & a 7’7 wingspan, that’s absurd at the NBA level, let alone in college.

His shot doesn’t look bad at all & it will only improve with college coaching. Improved strength & conditioning will do wonders for his balance & foot speed. We know he rebounds well & is a tremendous passer out of the post. If he can stretch the floor on top of that, we better enjoy him because he won’t be here long.
 
Really not a bad-looking stroke at all. A little awkward balance-wise and the ball is kind of too directly in front of his face I think... but there's a lot to work with here.

I'm glad he and his family are realizing a 3-ball is an important part of his game. These days if you're not a freak athlete at the 5, then you need to be able to shoot.

Ideally he can start turning these into full speed contact drills by the end of the summer with hard work.
As much as we've wanted him to come to UConn, it's still a little hard to believe he's that big and that skilled at his age.
Now, if he can do these drills with a few chairs spaced around the court we may have a superstar prospect on our hands......... :rolleyes:
 
typo's 100 game career 3ball average is 38%. period, end of sentence. how on earth can he have a career overall shooting % of 39%????? not exactly 'red on roundball' stuff. garza, 6'11'' for eg, shot 44% last year.
other than a few feet from the hoop, andre, thus far, has no shot. zero. he's new tho, so there's reasonable hope that he can improve dramatically.
dc's shot is fine as pie for a rising high school senior who happens to be a billion feet tall, cuz, ya know, the overwhelming and vast majority of perimeter defenders on him will not be a billion feet tall. mos def.
 
Could someone explain what a dip is to me, then maybe post some videos that explain it & show what pros dip and don’t?
 
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