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noeynox said:
I think Chryst had them in the B1G title game 3x in 8 years. If Fickell could do better than that he is an amazing coach.
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All you have to do is look at what Fickell has done at Cincinnati to know he is an amazing coach.
 
Cincinnati is about to become a much harder job moving to the Big 12 compared to playing in the AAC. Don't forget, Texas and Oklahoma will probably be there for 2 more years making it even more difficult. Fickell is moving on while he is still a hot coach as he may not be in a year or 2.
 
LIUCHusky said:
All you have to do is look at what Fickell has done at Cincinnati to know he is an amazing coach.
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B1G is a little different than playing Temple and USF. He did a phenomenal job at Cincinnati, not denying that. I just wonder if he really is an upgrade over a very solid coach like Chryst.
 
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Great hire for both. Wisconsin just guaranteed themselves a shot at the B1G CCG every if they can beat USC/UCLA or whomever emerges there. Would have been run over by one of those, otherwise.
 
SubbaBub said:
Great hire for both. Wisconsin just guaranteed themselves a shot at the B1G CCG every if they can beat USC/UCLA or whomever emerges there. Would have been run over by one of those, otherwise.
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A great career move too, makes Fikell one step away from Ohio State should have success at Wisconsin , if Ryan Day keeps losing to Harbaugh very possible Fikell is next in line to get the job in the next 2-3 years.
 
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noeynox said:
B1G is a little different than playing Temple and USF. He did a phenomenal job at Cincinnati, not denying that. I just wonder if he really is an upgrade over a very solid coach like Chryst.
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The big west is very weak. Winning 3 is nothing to beat your chest about. Purdue won this year, beating out iowa who simply had to beat Nebraska. Purdue lost to Cuse. Meanwhile, the big east is a scramble every year among 3-4 legit teams. He will exceed that low bar imho
 
gioff2323 said:
How’d you like to be the AD at auburn having to listen to money men. He and big Bruce are perfect for the plains.
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Win at any/all cost says the Auburn donors... honestly thought folks would back off of Urban Meyer at this point in time.... at the P5 level this guy just wins...all the time it seems....but it's like selling your soul hiring him right now....no?
 
Allegedly the reaction from the team (LIberty) in response to Freeze's rumored departure and clear statement about his interest in the Auburn opening was very bad, that likely played a role in that NMSU result.. but also raises the question of will he have lost that team now even if forced to come back.
 
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SubbaBub said:
Great hire for both. Wisconsin just guaranteed themselves a shot at the B1G CCG every if they can beat USC/UCLA or whomever emerges there. Would have been run over by one of those, otherwise.
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I’m when was the last time UCLA was the dominant team in any league? Why would you expect them to be that in the Big 20? They are part of the package because:
A. USC needed a west coast partner.
B. UCLA is Hollywood!
They were not selected for their successful program. They won’t be any more successful in the Big. They are Minnesota in snazzy uniforms.
 
nelsonmuntz said:
These early season firings show how stupid many of these athletic directors really are. Alberts canned Frost and ate $7.5 million of a buyout so he could lose 49-14 to Oklahoma. Money well spent. Alberts should be fired if Nebraska does not beat Indiana on 10/1, because then Alberts will have just pissed away $7.5 million in three weeks for no return.

I also don't get the point of firing Herm Edwards now. He isn't the greatest coach ever, but he is OK and Arizona State is just an OK program.

People who think it is OK to fire a coach off one bad loss have likely never been in a position of authority or leadership, nor do they understand economics. If coaches think that you are a hair trigger AD, then two things will happen: 1) some coaches won't come play for you, and 2) those that are willing to come will demand more money and bigger buyouts. Coaches at more stable programs will use the fact that coaches at Nebraska/ASU/(name your wannabe program that chews through coaches) are always on the hot seat against those programs in recruiting, so some of the top prospects won't come. It becomes a self-reinforcing cycle of competitive and financial failure for the program.
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Bump. All Nebraska did by firing Frost early in the season was piss away the season and $7.5 million in return for nothing.

ASU hired a coordinator who would have been available at year end, and Georgia Tech still doesn’t have a coach.

All three hair trigger, early season firings were proven to be stupid.
 
UConnJim said:
Cincinnati is about to become a much harder job moving to the Big 12 compared to playing in the AAC. Don't forget, Texas and Oklahoma will probably be there for 2 more years making it even more difficult. Fickell is moving on while he is still a hot coach as he may not be in a year or 2.
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Most coaches do well at Cincinnati. At some point, maybe it is not the coaches, but the job.

Wisconsin is a good job, but Fickell should have waited for something better. How long before Day leaves for the NFL or Florida fires its coach again? Chryst had Wisconsin about as good as Wisconsin is capable of being, and he is looking for a job now. It is close to impossible to go from where Wisconsin is now and break into the next level of success.
 
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nelsonmuntz said:
Most coaches do well at Cincinnati. At some point, maybe it is not the coaches, but the job.
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Let's call it like it is. Cincinnati was in the AAC which is a pretty weak conference relative to the Big 12. First, let's compare the schedule strength of Cincinnati (AAC going to Big 12) vs. West Virginia (Big 12) during the Fickell years:


2017: Cincy: 75, WVU: 29
2018: Cincy: 90, WVU: 36
2019: Cincy: 67, WVU: 8
2020: Cincy: 91, WVU: 55
2021: Cincy: 71, WVU: 13
2022: Cincy: 75, WVU: 7

Clearly, Cincinnati is going to begin playing a much harder schedule with the move to the Big 12.

Fickell was 57-18 at Cincinnati, but his record against ranked opponents? 5-11. Cincinnati will face more ranked teams in the Big 12 than they did in the AAC which will mean more losses.

As for resources, Cincinnati will be below average in the Big 12. Currently, Cincinnati does not have an indoor football practice facility although one is planned. And, the current head football coach salary is at the top of the AAC, but it will be middle of the pack or lower in the Big 12.

Bottom line is that Cincinnati is going to be a much harder job in the Big 12 and there will be more losses similar to what happened when WVU moved to the Big 12 from the Big East, even though the Big East (based on conference ratings) was a stronger conference than the AAC.
 
UConnJim said:
Let's call it like it is. Cincinnati was in the AAC which is a pretty weak conference relative to the Big 12. First, let's compare the schedule strength of Cincinnati (AAC going to Big 12) vs. West Virginia (Big 12) during the Fickell years:


2017: Cincy: 75, WVU: 29
2018: Cincy: 90, WVU: 36
2019: Cincy: 67, WVU: 8
2020: Cincy: 91, WVU: 55
2021: Cincy: 71, WVU: 13
2022: Cincy: 75, WVU: 7

Clearly, Cincinnati is going to begin playing a much harder schedule with the move to the Big 12.

Fickell was 57-18 at Cincinnati, but his record against ranked opponents? 5-11. Cincinnati will face more ranked teams in the Big 12 than they did in the AAC which will mean more losses.

As for resources, Cincinnati will be below average in the Big 12. Currently, Cincinnati does not have an indoor football practice facility although one is planned. And, the current head football coach salary is at the top of the AAC, but it will be middle of the pack or lower in the Big 12.

Bottom line is that Cincinnati is going to be a much harder job in the Big 12 and there will be more losses similar to what happened when WVU moved to the Big 12 from the Big East, even though the Big East (based on conference ratings) was a stronger conference than the AAC.
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Fair....but don't forget the Big 12 will be without Texas and Oklahoma. And....who knows what other changes.
 
ShakyTheMohel said:
Fair....but don't forget the Big 12 will be without Texas and Oklahoma. And....who knows what other changes.
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As of now, Texas and Oklahoma will be in the conference the next 2 seasons.

Also, if you use the Sagarin ratings, Cincinnati was ranked 2nd in the AAC and they would have been ranked 9th in the Big 12. It's a much tougher job going forward.
 
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