2022 Coaching Carousel Begins…

[don356]

When you are the school that has to give Karl Dorrell a huge buyout to take the position, you should strongly consider being more patient with the next hire because you clearly aren’t a destination job.

They should see if they can take Mel Tucker back as the MSU folks would likely be real interested at this point.

 

[ShakyTheMohel]

So...didn't Hugh Freeze just sign an extension until 2030?

And I don't see Kiffin going to auburn. He is better off at Ole Miss. Ole Miss will tolerate a mediocre season. Auburn won't. Auburn is a crappy job. I think he is at Ole Miss until Saben retires...or a similar level job opens up.

Ruhle doesn't seem like an SEC coach to me...but he did well at Baylor.

 

[Nostical]

The new Auburn Coach could be Hugh Freeze but I say it will be TCU's Sonny Dykes--or outside shot--Luke Fickell (Brian Kelly started the Yankee to the SEC trend).
I'd love to see Matt Rhule at Colorado. I'm not enamored with the guy everyone mentions, Iowa State's Matt Cambell.

 

[huskymedic]

 

[huskymedic]

 

[ZooCougar]

I think he needs more time.

 

[freescooter]

I think he needs more time.

At least until October 29, 2023.

 

[noeynox]

I think he needs more time.

I suggested a lifetime contract with a 100 percent buyout on Twitter. Guy is an ace recruiter who just needs time.

 

[ktuck911]

he should be.... everybody knew BCU was having a down year.... It's just that everybody also thought that UConn Football wasn't worth 2 pennies... WRONG! we're on the uptick folks... and there's still a few on this board that fall along with that pessimistic mindset... Get over it and get on board.. UConn Football is on the way back... still got work to do, but, finally, you (we all) can see we're headed in the right direction...

 

[nelsonmuntz]

I think Harsin is a really good coach and Malzahn is killing it at UCF. Auburn may want to look in the mirror. Although burning through more coaches and driving that program further into the ground is more fun as a non-Auburn fan.

 

[nelsonmuntz]

I would rank the P5 openings from a coach's perspective:

1) Wisconsin - Big 10 school, tradition, decent local recruiting, should do fine in NIL.
2) Georgia Tech - ACC which means opportunity to improve the program because there is only one other powerhouse in the league. Great local recruiting and Atlanta location should make it an NIL powerhouse. Great academics too.
3) Arizona State - no academic requirements and SoCal recruiting is wide open now with USC and UCLA playing their falls in the midwest. Decent history and potential to become a powerhouse in the West with the right coach. Relatively loyal to coaches, to a point.
4) Auburn - Completely unrealistic expectations for the #2 school in Alabama. Auburn fired Chizek 2 years after winning a national championship. There are 8-10 programs in the SEC with more potential than Auburn. Auburn's only natural advantage, its willingness to cheat shamelessly, no longer matters in an NIL world.
5) Nebraska - I am not sure this program is even trying anymore. I think they fire a coach every few years to pacify the alums but UConn has almost as much chance of making the Top 10 in the next 5 years as Nebraska. If you want to see a great Nebraska team, look it up on youtube. There won't be one in Lincoln ever again.
6) Colorado - I forgot Colorado, and I think everyone else does too. This program is DEFINITELY not trying. Their fans have never cared, and the only time they were good was when Bill McCartney was importing LA Crips members. Colorado fans are happier lighting up and hitting the slopes rather than worrying about a football game, and I can't blame them.

 

[CCSUblue]

I think Harsin is a really good coach and Malzahn is killing it at UCF. Auburn may want to look in the mirror. Although burning through more coaches and driving that program further into the ground is more fun as a non-Auburn fan.

The question with Harsin is whether he goes down into a different HC position like UAB or Colorado, or takes a power coordinator position.

 

[nelsonmuntz]

The question with Harsin is whether he goes down into a different HC position like UAB or Colorado, or takes a power coordinator position.

ASU might be interested. I think he could do good work there.

 

[businesslawyer]

I would rank the P5 openings from a coach's perspective:

1) Wisconsin - Big 10 school, tradition, decent local recruiting, should do fine in NIL.
2) Georgia Tech - ACC which means opportunity to improve the program because there is only one other powerhouse in the league. Great local recruiting and Atlanta location should make it an NIL powerhouse. Great academics too.
3) Arizona State - no academic requirements and SoCal recruiting is wide open now with USC and UCLA playing their falls in the midwest. Decent history and potential to become a powerhouse in the West with the right coach. Relatively loyal to coaches, to a point.
4) Auburn - Completely unrealistic expectations for the #2 school in Alabama. Auburn fired Chizek 2 years after winning a national championship. There are 8-10 programs in the SEC with more potential than Auburn. Auburn's only natural advantage, its willingness to cheat shamelessly, no longer matters in an NIL world.
5) Nebraska - I am not sure this program is even trying anymore. I think they fire a coach every few years to pacify the alums but UConn has almost as much chance of making the Top 10 in the next 5 years as Nebraska. If you want to see a great Nebraska team, look it up on youtube. There won't be one in Lincoln ever again.
6) Colorado - I forgot Colorado, and I think everyone else does too. This program is DEFINITELY not trying. Their fans have never cared, and the only time they were good was when Bill McCartney was importing LA Crips members. Colorado fans are happier lighting up and hitting the slopes rather than worrying about a football game, and I can't blame them.

It's a good list.

 

[UConnJim]

I would rank the P5 openings from a coach's perspective:

1) Wisconsin - Big 10 school, tradition, decent local recruiting, should do fine in NIL.
2) Georgia Tech - ACC which means opportunity to improve the program because there is only one other powerhouse in the league. Great local recruiting and Atlanta location should make it an NIL powerhouse. Great academics too.
3) Arizona State - no academic requirements and SoCal recruiting is wide open now with USC and UCLA playing their falls in the midwest. Decent history and potential to become a powerhouse in the West with the right coach. Relatively loyal to coaches, to a point.
4) Auburn - Completely unrealistic expectations for the #2 school in Alabama. Auburn fired Chizek 2 years after winning a national championship. There are 8-10 programs in the SEC with more potential than Auburn. Auburn's only natural advantage, its willingness to cheat shamelessly, no longer matters in an NIL world.
5) Nebraska - I am not sure this program is even trying anymore. I think they fire a coach every few years to pacify the alums but UConn has almost as much chance of making the Top 10 in the next 5 years as Nebraska. If you want to see a great Nebraska team, look it up on youtube. There won't be one in Lincoln ever again.
6) Colorado - I forgot Colorado, and I think everyone else does too. This program is DEFINITELY not trying. Their fans have never cared, and the only time they were good was when Bill McCartney was importing LA Crips members. Colorado fans are happier lighting up and hitting the slopes rather than worrying about a football game, and I can't blame them.

One thing you have to think about. Auburn won a national championship not too long ago, so it is a place you can do that. I don’t think you can win a championship at the other schools listed.

 

[billybud]

Auburn is a snake pit with a lot of big donor influence....

Having a great season ends up being a kiss of death when not repeated...Not countiing Steele's one year and Harsin...their previous four coaches had been fired and had been previously awarded SEC Coach of the Year at Auburn.

 

[noeynox]

One thing you have to think about. Auburn won a national championship not too long ago, so it is a place you can do that. I don’t think you can win a championship at the other schools listed.

Two coaches won ship there recently. But they do have really high unrealistic expectations there. When Bama is in your state, good luck.

 

[nelsonmuntz]

One thing you have to think about. Auburn won a national championship not too long ago, so it is a place you can do that. I don’t think you can win a championship at the other schools listed.

All Auburn had going for it was its willingness to completely disregard NCAA regulations, and an alumni base willing to fund its rule breaking. They outbid 5 or 6 other schools for Cam Newton, and won a title. Those days are over.

In an NIL world, everyone can pay their players, and there are plenty of alumni bases out there with more money than Auburn's. If Vanderbilt's alums every decided they wanted to have a good team, they could curb stomp Auburn's in a bidding war. Auburn has no local industry to draw from for NIL, nor a wealthy extended fan base beyond their alumni. Put Auburn side by side to Georgia Tech in an NIL world, and it is no contest. The SEC money is great, but that goes to the school. I wouldn't put it past the school to funnel money back out to the players, but there are a lot of claims on that money going into the athletic department, and it is also still illegal beyond a stipend.

And what player is going to want to deal with that when they can go to GTech or anywhere else and get paid above board?

 

[ZooCougar]

Auburn is Little Brother. The boosters are beyond insane. It’s the kind of place that you only take the job unless your buyout ensures you can buy a mansion in West Yellowstone or Jackson Hole and never work again.

 

[huskymedic]

 

[Kolumbo]

I would rank the P5 openings from a coach's perspective:

1) Wisconsin - Big 10 school, tradition, decent local recruiting, should do fine in NIL.
2) Georgia Tech - ACC which means opportunity to improve the program because there is only one other powerhouse in the league. Great local recruiting and Atlanta location should make it an NIL powerhouse. Great academics too.
3) Arizona State - no academic requirements and SoCal recruiting is wide open now with USC and UCLA playing their falls in the midwest. Decent history and potential to become a powerhouse in the West with the right coach. Relatively loyal to coaches, to a point.
4) Auburn - Completely unrealistic expectations for the #2 school in Alabama. Auburn fired Chizek 2 years after winning a national championship. There are 8-10 programs in the SEC with more potential than Auburn. Auburn's only natural advantage, its willingness to cheat shamelessly, no longer matters in an NIL world.
5) Nebraska - I am not sure this program is even trying anymore. I think they fire a coach every few years to pacify the alums but UConn has almost as much chance of making the Top 10 in the next 5 years as Nebraska. If you want to see a great Nebraska team, look it up on youtube. There won't be one in Lincoln ever again.
6) Colorado - I forgot Colorado, and I think everyone else does too. This program is DEFINITELY not trying. Their fans have never cared, and the only time they were good was when Bill McCartney was importing LA Crips members. Colorado fans are happier lighting up and hitting the slopes rather than worrying about a football game, and I can't blame them.

I was curious about Colorado and I've found they have a few message boards. Will Colorado stick with the PAC 12? Crawl back to the Big 12? End up in the MW? They have a thread about USC/UCLA with 6,163 posts.

CU has rejoined the Big 12 and broken college football - talking out asses continues

USC will challenge tOSU for the cream of the conference most years, and they will be excited to play big programs like tOSU, UM, MSU, PSU, Wis, Iowa and yes, even Nebraska. However, those games might be 3/9 conference games, while the other 6 will be highly unattractive matchups against Minn...

www.allbuffs.com

They also have a coaching search thread and this guy included Jim Mora way back on Oct 2.

Official CU Head Coach Search Thread - Primetime

Starting to like the idea of Dunn. Dunn is a California native who has recruited Texas for most of his career. He lacks head-coaching experience but has learned from one of the best in Gundy. IMHO, recruting CA and/or TX (may depend on conference realignment) is going to be the key to...

www.allbuffs.com

In order:
Brennon Marion
Jim Mora
Ricky Rahne
Jeff Traylor
Eric Bienemy
Bronco Mendenhall

 

[Skiblets]

Sounds even worse than the dreaded vote of confidence

 

[nelsonmuntz]

I was curious about Colorado and I've found they have a few message boards. Will Colorado stick with the PAC 12? Crawl back to the Big 12? End up in the MW? They have a thread about USC/UCLA with 6,163 posts.

CU has rejoined the Big 12 and broken college football - talking out asses continues

USC will challenge tOSU for the cream of the conference most years, and they will be excited to play big programs like tOSU, UM, MSU, PSU, Wis, Iowa and yes, even Nebraska. However, those games might be 3/9 conference games, while the other 6 will be highly unattractive matchups against Minn...

www.allbuffs.com

They also have a coaching search thread and this guy included Jim Mora way back on Oct 2.

Official CU Head Coach Search Thread - Primetime

Starting to like the idea of Dunn. Dunn is a California native who has recruited Texas for most of his career. He lacks head-coaching experience but has learned from one of the best in Gundy. IMHO, recruting CA and/or TX (may depend on conference realignment) is going to be the key to...

www.allbuffs.com

In order:
Brennon Marion
Jim Mora
Ricky Rahne
Jeff Traylor
Eric Bienemy
Bronco Mendenhall

The Colorado football head coaching search is high on the list of things I am not following. When I first put my list together of P5 openings, I forgot to include Colorado because I forgot they are P5. While I would like Mora to stick around, I get if he wants to make one last run at a P5 school. Either way, I am pretty sure he is not going to ask my opinion so there is not much I can do about it.

 

[Windham4th]

Bienemy needs to right the ship at Colorado. Would love to see that.

 

[freescooter]

The Colorado football head coaching search is high on the list of things I am not following. When I first put my list together of P5 openings, I forgot to include Colorado because I forgot they are P5. While I would like Mora to stick around, I get if he wants to make one last run at a P5 school. Either way, I am pretty sure he is not going to ask my opinion so there is not much I can do about it.

I would rank the P5 openings from a coach's perspective:

1) Wisconsin - Big 10 school, tradition, decent local recruiting, should do fine in NIL.
2) Georgia Tech - ACC which means opportunity to improve the program because there is only one other powerhouse in the league. Great local recruiting and Atlanta location should make it an NIL powerhouse. Great academics too.
3) Arizona State - no academic requirements and SoCal recruiting is wide open now with USC and UCLA playing their falls in the midwest. Decent history and potential to become a powerhouse in the West with the right coach. Relatively loyal to coaches, to a point.
4) Auburn - Completely unrealistic expectations for the #2 school in Alabama. Auburn fired Chizek 2 years after winning a national championship. There are 8-10 programs in the SEC with more potential than Auburn. Auburn's only natural advantage, its willingness to cheat shamelessly, no longer matters in an NIL world.
5) Nebraska - I am not sure this program is even trying anymore. I think they fire a coach every few years to pacify the alums but UConn has almost as much chance of making the Top 10 in the next 5 years as Nebraska. If you want to see a great Nebraska team, look it up on youtube. There won't be one in Lincoln ever again.
6) Colorado - I forgot Colorado, and I think everyone else does too. This program is DEFINITELY not trying. Their fans have never cared, and the only time they were good was when Bill McCartney was importing LA Crips members. Colorado fans are happier lighting up and hitting the slopes rather than worrying about a football game, and I can't blame them.

Only place I’m not sure about is Georgia Tech. I don’t know that they are that committed to successful athletics. I mean they hired Paul Johnson who ran a gimmicky offense that was probably never going to win a championship. Good enough coach but hiring him means you figure to go 9-4 every year. I do agree that in a 1 team league there is opportunity. Just not convinced Georgia Tech is that interested in asking it.