2019 AAC Football Media Days - July 15th/16th in Newport RI

[dvegas]

I will be rooting for Peart, Magliozzi etal to pull a Belushi and make it a Clambake to remember.

If I am a UConn player I am subjecting each and everyone of my lobsters to a long and through sniff test.

 

[billybud]

It only wasn’t working for football because we were failing to compete. The league overall had an amazing football trajectory.
Basketball - we will see what Penny dies with talent? Houston is transforming under a very good coach.

I think UConn would certainly feel differently about the AAC if the UConn football team had won 16 straight conference games and been to two big bowls like UCF.

If UConn basketball under Hurley could grow to provide a fight with Houston, Cincinnati, UCF, Memphis....the AAC had the potential to become quite a basketball conference.

But with football at its lowest ebb and basketball falling off....the lure of a return to the Big East, and the securing of the UConn basketball brand, was a very strong pull.

 

[ConnHuskBask]

You forgot the $10 Million exit fee plus the the $2.5 Million NBE entry fee. It’s not even close. We traded down for conference rev share no matter how it’s sliced. The admin is now letting these pesky details out and admitting we will be in a bigger hole for years, but it’s an “investment”.., in what? Being a basketball school? You saw what all those BB championships got us in CR: zero. But, the geniuses double down as if suddenly it will transform things.

You have any concept of time value of money? Google that for me, and then check the AAC tv deal.

 

[Chief00]

Love ya Chief, but the AAC was a disaster for all sports. Tell me more about the AAC CFP record and deep MBB tourney runs...

Whatever conference we are in, we need to compete on the field or court. That’s solely on us and no one else.

 

[Pudge]

Whatever conference we are in, we need to compete on the field or court. That’s solely on us and no one else.

What’s your gut say ...

Flying to play Houston on a Sunday ... turn around to go to class. Then flying out to play Tulsa on that Thursday. Men’s & Women’s.

With 5 solid programs from DC to Providence, Pure neighborhood games make a big difference to Students, Fans, Athletes.

Then the Money P&L is better.

Temple has risen its profile via Football (who knows how 5 coaches in 10 years gives you culture). Memphis too. UCF & USF. Ok I see. UConn with any style of culture is a Development Project. We know we could do it. But I don’t see the pathway to P5. And the P5 sees the UCF etc as more risk adverse grab.

 

[kemba]

Being a basketball school? You saw what all those BB championships got us in CR: zero. But, the geniuses double down as if suddenly it will transform things.

Then we're screwed regardless, and protecting basketball until everything falls apart was the right call.

If the p5 dream ever happens, its not going to be BECAUSE of football. As far as the sports factors it will be because of our powerhouse basketball programs and a football program that is "good enough." You're right, way things look now doesn't look like it will happen. But its definitely not going to happen if the basketball program is merely average or below, even if we could improve the football program to the level of a Temple.

 

[Fairfield_1st]

Tack on a few more $mil on the exit fee for early release and another $mil on the entrance fee ($3.5m).

In my pea brain we shouldn't have to pay an entrance fee since our National Championship winning field hockey team is already in the BE (as an associate member), which means we're already kind of in the BE. We should at least get a reduced rate. The Lady Huskies won 3 NCs as an associate wearing the BE logo.
I'm just working any possible angle to save money.

 

[Pudge]

You forgot the $10 Million exit fee plus the the $2.5 Million NBE entry fee. It’s not even close. We traded down for conference rev share no matter how it’s sliced. The admin is now letting these pesky details out and admitting we will be in a bigger hole for years, but it’s an “investment”.., in what? Being a basketball school? You saw what all those BB championships got us in CR: zero. But, the geniuses double down as if suddenly it will transform things.

Amortize it over life of both contracts. I didn’t forget anything.

 

[Chief00]

What’s your gut say ...

Flying to play Houston on a Sunday ... turn around to go to class. Then flying out to play Tulsa on that Thursday. Men’s & Women’s.

With 5 solid programs from DC to Providence, Pure neighborhood games make a big difference to Students, Fans, Athletes.

Then the Money P&L is better.

Temple has risen its profile via Football (who knows how 5 coaches in 10 years gives you culture). Memphis too. UCF & USF. Ok I see. UConn with any style of culture is a Development Project. We know we could do it. But I don’t see the pathway to P5. And the P5 sees the UCF etc as more risk adverse grab.

The analytics people in professional sports have all kinds of travel scenarios and their wins and loses. Sure, I agree, these are all variables in the mix but pro or college what it boils down to is finding ways to win games.
The best teams love the road and silencing their opponents building.
And sometimes, getting stuck in Tri State traffic is worse than flying to Dallas.

 

[CL82]

Tack on a few more $mil on the exit fee for early release and another $mil on the entrance fee ($3.5m).

Yes and no. We've already paid $2.5M and Not Mad is holding another $5M in escrow.

 

[huskymedic]

 

[Jimdish255]

Then we're screwed regardless, and protecting basketball until everything falls apart was the right call.

If the p5 dream ever happens, its not going to be BECAUSE of football. As far as the sports factors it will be because of our powerhouse basketball programs and a football program that is "good enough." You're right, way things look now doesn't look like it will happen. But its definitely not going to happen if the basketball program is merely average or below, even if we could improve the football program to the level of a Temple.

This wasn't always the case, but right now our odds are probably the same under the current path or maybe better. If we can put together some interesting games and become reasonably successful on the football side, they increase because we'll have gotten the conference divorce out of the way.

 

[huskymedic]

 

[Dooooooomed]

Lock the doors and hope it don't get keyed...

 

[huskymedic]

 

[LBird33]

I wonder if UConn got put at the kiddie table

 

[CL82]

I wonder if UConn got put at the kiddie table

Why? I have on good authority that Aresco's not mad.

 

[huskymedic]

 

[huskymedic]

 

[BlueDogs]

You have any concept of time value of money? Google that for me, and then check the AAC tv deal.

Do you? That’s the whole point. You’re in a PV hole of -$12.5-14 Million at the start and we swapped out for lower revenue over time. If timing was an issue, you wait until the current commitment runs out. Your entire analysis is premised on UConn generating big $$ in the future for the NBE... an unknown and not likely given the value of college BB in the overall mix. Whatever. People will convince themselves of whatever suits their persuasion.

 

[whaler11]

Do you? That’s the whole point. You’re in a PV hole of -$12.5-14 Million at the start and we swapped out for lower revenue over time. If timing was an issue, you wait until the current commitment runs out. Your entire analysis is premised on UConn generating big $$ in the future for the NBE... an unknown and not likely given the value of college BB in the overall mix. Whatever. People will convince themselves of whatever suits their persuasion.

you are just wrong. your last sentence nails you.

 

[BlueDogs]

you are just wrong. your last sentence nails you.

Good grief. It’s simple addition and subtraction. If you want to get more accurate add in cost of capital and discounted cash flow. The whole thing turns on a promise that the future will bring big dollars in basketball conference. The university already said it would be going deeper into a hole. I think the AAC deal sucks on its own merits, precisely because of its long term at a fixed rate. We are trading down revenue and absorbing huge costs on a bet. This is called bad business.

 

[huskymedic]

 

[whaler11]

Good grief. It’s simple addition and subtraction. If you want to get more accurate add in cost of capital and discounted cash flow. The whole thing turns on a promise that the future will bring big dollars in basketball conference. The university already said it would be going deeper into a hole. I think the AAC deal sucks on its own merits, precisely because of its long term at a fixed rate. We are trading down revenue and absorbing huge costs on a bet. This is called bad business.

Okey dokey. You are like a snake eating it’s own tail chasing football.

 

[crewbear742]

Okey dokey. You are like a snake eating it’s own tail chasing football.

He's not the one convincing himself that FBS independence is a viable path forward. FBS Independence for UConn is going to resemble the trajectory of an aircraft that loses a wing - rapidly descending, chaotic, and terminating in a crater. This deal makes perfect sense to me, given only that UConn is preparing to euthanize its football program. There are really only two viable destinations for UConn football - FCS and oblivion. The former seems pointless which makes the inevitable outcome obvious.

 

[whaler11]

He's not the one convincing himself that FBS independence is a viable path forward. FBS Independence for UConn is going to resemble the trajectory of an aircraft that loses a wing - rapidly descending, chaotic, and terminating in a crater. This deal makes perfect sense to me, given only that UConn is preparing to euthanize its football program. There are really only two viable destinations for UConn football - FCS and oblivion. The former seems pointless which makes the inevitable outcome obvious.

Yeah UConn in the AAC was going well!

You guys are dead wrong. Could not be more wrong.

 

[crewbear742]

Yeah UConn in the AAC was going well!

You guys are dead wrong. Could not be more wrong.

No, things weren't going well in AAC. You are right. The ship hit the ice berg. It's settling at the bow, and the forecastle is almost submerged. So the Administration put the basketball team in lifeboat 14 and then told the football team to go listen to the orchestra playing "Nearer My God to Thee". That's the reality. Fantasies about independence and SNY money will not change it.

 

[huskymedic]

 

[huskymedic]

Putterman: Randy Edsall, UConn football players to bid AAC goodbye at conference media day

 

[huskymedic]