2018 AP Poll, USAT Coaches’ Poll and CFP Rankings

[freescooter]

You gotta love all the SEC strength of schedule nonsense though. Alabama is a very good team but they’ve not exactly played a murders row schedule to date. Arkansas State, a dreadful Arkansas program, a mediocre Ol Miss. The Ragin Cajuns from UL Lafayette, and the still have the always dangerous Citadel to come. And that is a pretty typical SEC non- league slate. And I think one of the downsides of the 4 team playoff. Why schedule a good non conference game when a loss might cost you a spot? Better to load up on Ark State and the Citadel so there is no risk.

 

[Vowelguy]

You gotta love all the SEC strength of schedule nonsense though.

If only there were a way to synthesize all of the data points from thousands of games and varying levels of opponents.

Oh right.
College Football Ranking Composite

 

[jbdphi]

If only there were a way to synthesize all of the data points from thousands of games and varying levels of opponents.

Oh right.
College Football Ranking Composite

This has us one spot above Rutgers so I'd question the sanity of the computers here. They also give us a 56% chance of beating UMass?

 

[Husky92]

This has us one spot above Rutgers so I'd question the sanity of the computers here. They also give us a 56% chance of beating UMass?

Go UCONN!

 

[Dream Jobbed 2.0]

Of it goes to 8 teams we get to see 9-3 Texas AM teams not 13-0 UCF.

 

[billybud]

Of it goes to 8 teams we get to see 9-3 Texas AM teams not 13-0 UCF.

Sagarin has UCF being the underdog, right now, against 25 teams...in fact, Texas A&M (5-2) would be Sagarin's favorite by 5 points.

 

[freescooter]

IIRC UCF was an underdog to Auburn last year based on Saragin. And I can’t forget the 1999 Saragin National Championship in men’s basketball which went to Duke...after the tournament ended.

All these models are what they are. Some are a little better than others but most overrate SOS to make it the driving force really. And the result is that weak sisters in good leagues get over rated simply because they are in good leagues. Then a victory over weak sister inflates the strength of a good teams schedule. Same thing happens in basketball but at least with 68 teams lower ranked ones who get in have a shot. Loyola and even the Ollie title team are examples. With only 4 football teams in the NIT and 12 games the impact is much bigger.

 

[billybud]

Yeah...UCF got by Auburn while Auburn was favored by 4 points in Sagarin...Clemson beat Auburn too...for the second year in a row...and Auburn had four, count 'em, four losses.

Auburn was the only top 30 team UCF played (Sagarin).

Having a one game mild upset is not that much...it was the weak sister schedule that had UCF unbeaten...You might wonder if Auburn would have gone unbeaten into the playoff if they played UCF's schedule.

SOS is important...that's how you differentiate 6-1 Georgia Southern from a 6-1 Oklahoma.

 

[huskymedic]

ESPN's Herbstreit: UCF is Bullish, Should Spend More Time on Improving Schedule Than Tweeting

 

[NC_Uconn_Fan]

UCF has played a poor schedule and does not deserve a top 4 spot this year. Once the playoffs expand to 8 or beyond, G5 teams like UCF, will have a better shot at the playoffs. College football playoffs is an exclusive club, many good teams left out each year.

 

[uconnfan68]

UCF has played a poor schedule and does not deserve a top 4 spot this year. Once the playoffs expand to 8 or beyond, G5 teams like UCF, will have a better shot at the playoffs. College football playoffs is an exclusive club, many good teams left out each year.

What good P5 team will play UCF? None. The problem goes back to the P5 protecting the P5.

 

[huskymedic]

What good P5 team will play UCF? None. The problem goes back to the P5 protecting the P5.

UCF should go all in after the AD tweet to ESPN Game Day Crew the other night and Herbstreit interview above and list each and every school they contacted for a home and home and was refused.

 

[HartfordHank]

College Football Ranking Composite

Flaw in the system when a one loss Michigan team is ranked above an undefeated Notre Dame team, the team that Michigan lost to!

 

[billybud]

UCF should go all in after the AD tweet to ESPN Game Day Crew the other night and Herbstreit interview above and list each and every school they contacted for a home and home and was refused.

My thought...UCF didn't try to schedule up until the last couple of years..
and now they have Texas A&M, Stanford, Pitt, North Carolina, Georgia Tech, Louisville on schedules between 2019 and 2022...

I don't think that the P5 are afraid to play a tougher game OOC, nor is there some vast P5 conspiracy against UCF...

One might wonder why Alabama can play Miami, Utah State, Central Michigan, and Notre Dame...

or Georgia play Oklahoma, Clemson, UCLA, Arizona State..

or Oklahoma play Ohio State, Houston, UCLA, Tulane, Army, Temple

ot Miami play Alabama, Michigan State, Temple, Appalachian State, Duke

But not UCF

OR USF

play Wisconsin, Georgia Tech, BYU, Texas, NC State, Florida, Louisville

I think there is some culpability on UCF's part...

Last thought...life ain't fair when you are breaking through....I remember Bobby Bowden (King of the Road) having to travel without return to build FSU...travel several times to Columbus, several to Lincoln, a couple to Ann Arbor, and Lansing, five time to Baton Rouge...no returns

 

[billybud]

UCF has played P-5 during the last four seasons.

The three seasons 2014, 15, 16...before last year's big run...UCF's P5 record

ACC 0-1
...lost to NC State

Big Ten 0-3
...lost to Maryland, Michigan, Penn State..did beat Maryland in 2017

SEC 0-2
...lost to Missouri, South Carolina (did beat Auburn in 2017)

PAC 12 0-1
...lost to Stanford

Big 12 1-0
...beat Baylor

Counting 2017...UCF's four year record against the P5 is 3-7

 

[LIUCHusky]

UCF has played P-5 during the last four seasons.

The three seasons 2014, 15, 16...before last year's big run...UCF's P5 record

ACC 0-1
...lost to NC State

Big Ten 0-3
...lost to Maryland, Michigan, Penn State..did beat Maryland in 2017

SEC 0-2
...lost to Missouri, South Carolina (did beat Auburn in 2017)

PAC 12 0-1
...lost to Stanford

Big 12 1-0
...beat Baylor

Counting 2017...UCF's four year record against the P5 is 3-7

Don't forget in one of those years they were 0-12.

 

[billybud]

UCF was also 6-7 in 2016

They have a pendulum like record...very good years followed by bad years. I suspect that they have good years with an experienced team and quarterback...and fall back when young.

 

[huskymedic]

USAT/Amway Coaches Poll (10/28/18)

1. Alabama
2. Clemson
3. Notre Dame
4. LSU
5. Michigan
6. Georgia
7. Oklahoma
8. Ohio State
9. UCF
10. West Virginia
11. Washington State
12. Kentucky
13. Penn State
14. Florida
15. Texas
16. Utah
17. Houston
18. Iowa
19. Washington
20. Utah State
21. Mississippi State
22. Virginia
23. Fresno State
24. Syracuse
25. Boston College

Others Receiving Votes: Texas A&M 167; Cincinnati 116; South Florida 87; Michigan State 48; Wisconsin 41; NC State 40; Northwestern 40; Miami 38; Georgia Southern 32; Oklahoma State 31; UAB 24; Stanford 21; Auburn 21; Oregon 20; San Diego State 16; Buffalo 14; Army 13; South Carolina 11; Iowa State 6; Florida International 6; Virginia Tech 5; Pittsburgh 3; Duke 3; Boise State 2.

 

[Scrutineer]

USAT/Amway Coaches Poll (10/28/18)

1. Alabama
2. Clemson
3. Notre Dame
4. LSU
5. Michigan
6. Georgia
7. Oklahoma
8. Ohio State
9. UCF
10. West Virginia
11. Washington State
12. Kentucky
13. Penn State
14. Florida
15. Texas
16. Utah
17. Houston
18. Iowa
19. Washington
20. Utah State
21. Mississippi State
22. Virginia
23. Fresno State
24. Syracuse
25. Boston College

Others Receiving Votes: Texas A&M 167; Cincinnati 116; South Florida 87; Michigan State 48; Wisconsin 41; NC State 40; Northwestern 40; Miami 38; Georgia Southern 32; Oklahoma State 31; UAB 24; Stanford 21; Auburn 21; Oregon 20; San Diego State 16; Buffalo 14; Army 13; South Carolina 11; Iowa State 6; Florida International 6; Virginia Tech 5; Pittsburgh 3; Duke 3; Boise State 2.

Tell me there's no bias.
Florida gets their azzes handed to them and only drops to 14?
AXX looking pretty top heavy with only one great team, Clemson.

 

[huskymedic]

AP Top 25 Poll (10/28/18)

1. Alabama
2. Clemson
3. Notre Dame
4. LSU
5. Michigan
6. Georgia
7. Oklahoma
8. Ohio State
9. UCF
10. Washington State
11. Kentucky
12. West Virginia
13. Florida
14. Penn State
15. Texas
16. Utah
17. Houston
18. Utah State
19. Iowa
20. Fresno State
21. Mississippi State
22. Syracuse
23. Virginia
24. Boston College
25. Texas A&M

Others receiving votes: Washington 120, Northwestern 86, Georgia Southern 62, Michigan St. 51, Cincinnati 45, Iowa St. 42, South Florida 29, Stanford 26, Oklahoma St. 24, UAB 17, Oregon 13, Wisconsin 12, Auburn 7, San Diego St. 6, Army 6, NC State 5, California 2, Buffalo 1.

 

[huskymedic]

First CFP rankings released Tuesday night.

 

[huskymedic]

 

[huskymedic]

First CFP Rankings (10/30/18):

1. Alabama
2. Clemson
3. LSU
4. Notre Dame
5. Michigan
6. Georgia
7. Oklahoma
8. Washington State
9. Kentucky
10. Ohio State
11. Florida
12. UCF
13. West Virginia
14. Penn State
15. Utah
16. Iowa
17. Texas
18. Mississippi State
19. Syracuse
20. Texas A&M
21. NC State
22. Boston College
23. Fresno State
24. Iowa State
25. Virginia

 

[crazyUCfan23]

UCF moving up in the world! (compared to initial rankings last year)

 

[huskymedic]

USAT/Amway Coaches Poll (11/04/18)

1 Alabama
2 Clemson
3 Notre Dame
4 Michigan
5 UGA
6 OU
7 Ohio St
8 WVU
9 Wazzu
10 LSU
11 UCF
12 Kentucky
13 Syracuse
14 Boston College
15 Miss St
16 Utah St
17 Fresno St
18 Washington
19 Texas
20 Penn St
21 Florida
22 NC St
23 Cincinnati
24 Utah
25 Iowa St

Others Receiving Votes: Michigan State 144; Auburn 106; Iowa 87; Wisconsin 64; UAB 64; Oregon 51; Houston 41; Army 34; Buffalo 22; Texas A&M 16; San Diego State 15; Purdue 13; Boise State 12; Duke 11; Pittsburgh 10; South Florida 10; South Carolina 7; Missouri 2; Appalachian State 2; Northwestern 1; North Texas 1.