Pudge was the one guy who was a no brainer, Bagwell was always borderline to me and Raines to me was always Hall of very good but I never thought of him as a HOF. What are your thoughts?
Surprised Pudge got in first ballot with his steroid allegations when they made Piazza wait for less. I think Posada deserved more than 1 year on ballot (though he didn't deserve to get in).
Surprised Pudge got in first ballot with his steroid allegations when they made Piazza wait for less. I think Posada deserved more than 1 year on ballot (though he didn't deserve to get in).
Surprised Pudge got in first ballot with his steroid allegations when they made Piazza wait for less. I think Posada deserved more than 1 year on ballot (though he didn't deserve to get in).
I wasn't thinking of steroid because I could care less if a guy took steroids or not, 80 percent of baseball took them. Steroids got fans back into the game mlb looked the other way until Canseco opened up his mouth about Steroid use in baseball (it was effed up what he did but he was right). Then the league turned on the players, to cover up their own tracks.
I agree with you, it's just weird they punished Piazza and Bagwell by making them wait while Rodriguez gets in first ballot when I think everyone else Canseco named was proven true.
Pudge was the one guy who was a no brainer, Bagwell was always borderline to me and Raines to me was always Hall of very good but I never thought of him as a HOF. What are your thoughts?
Once you open the gates, which Piazza did, they're all getting in. How Bagwell and Pudge got in and not Clemens and Bonds for that matter is amazing to me? Both deserving due to numbers but please, no doubters in the hall of cheating. When Pudge stopped he was still pretty good, had warning track power but could hit and catch - he was half the man he used to be body wise when using though it was so obvious it was laughable.
Tim Raines, very very good baseball player for years, HOF? Not what I was thinking but damn close.
Sorry either all or none - now let the Palmiero's, Rockets and Barry's in too no denying them.
I really don't get Raines -- a guy who never finished higher than 5th in the MVP voting and didn't make the All-Star team in any of his final fourteen seasons is a Hall of Famer?
No. No he's not.
Rock Raines played 23 seasons. Guess how many he appeared in 150 games or more.Tim Raines is NOT a hall of famer, in my opinion. What "requisite" numbers does he have?
I feel like letting in a guy like Raines and even a guy like Rice is a counter to not having Sosa, Bonds, McGwire, Clemens, Palmiero in the Hall. The reigns get loosened because you can parade a guy up on stage and overlook the fact that the greatest players of this generation (with or without PED's) aren't in there.
IRod was the best catcher of the 90s. All Star for 14 seasons and perrennial Gold Glove winner. Being a Ranger I didn't follow him closely so I wasn't aware of 'roid rumors until a few years ago. But he played on the team with the Roid Crew that sucked ARod into that crap.
Piazze was the watershed moment for 'roiders whether suspected or not. The Hall is opening up.
IRod is a legot HOFer, to me.