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tzznandrew said:
Yeah. They're a bubble team now, right? I mean, they have a win against Villanova that counts for something, but otherwise (before the loss) RPI 39, 2-4 vs. Top 25, 2-5 vs. Top 50, and 3 sub-100 losses.

They have a manageable schedule the next four games, and just winning is probably enough to right the ship. But they've looked bad.
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What do you consider a bubble team? 8 seed? 9 seed? Right now, they are probably in the 7-8 seed range. 9 at the worst. If that's the bubble, then yes they are on the bubble, but well on the safe side right now. they would have to lose a few more to start to worry.
 
Would not be surprised if Kaleb Joseph transfers out of Syracuse after this season. He's played a total of 5 minutes the last 10 games.

But Joseph hasn’t been in any game a lot. He hasn’t played more than 17 minutes in any contest all season. He’s entered just five of the 11 conference games and has played a total of 18 conference minutes. He’s taken 28 shots this season and made only five. Just a year ago he averaged more than 27 minutes per game. So far, Syracuse’s “biggest offseason improvement” hasn’t shown any, or been given a chance to do so as of late.

The reason behind his trajectory this season remains virtually untold. He declined to talk for this story. His friend and high school coach didn’t respond to an interview request. His AAU coach said, “I have no comment.” His mother said, “I have to decline.” When Boeheim was asked about what had changed from then to now, he avoided any sort of explanation.

“He has not performed well in game situations,” Boeheim said. “He has not been able to get it done on the court. Frank Howard has moved ahead of him and that’s where it stands right now.”

http://dailyorange.com/2016/02/the-story-behind-kaleb-josephs-season-remains-relatively-untold/
 
tzznandrew said:
Yeah. They're a bubble team now, right? I mean, they have a win against Villanova that counts for something, but otherwise (before the loss) RPI 39, 2-4 vs. Top 25, 2-5 vs. Top 50, and 3 sub-100 losses.

They have a manageable schedule the next four games, and just winning is probably enough to right the ship. But they've looked bad.
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They are no lock, similar situation to us, but they have an easier schedule to close out the year.

Outside that Nova win, which is great, their resume is garbage.
 
Watching Duke-UNC right now, and I know it sounds like another "complaining about the AAC" post, but this is what a "premium product" in college basketball looks like. I miss when we had games of this caliber, where our fans cared, their fans cared, the stadium is packed, and the viewers are watching on TV.

I have friends who asked "whose watching Duke UNC tonight", and none of them I would consider fans of college ball. Whereas when these same people on my class ask who UConn is playing when I wear a Huskies hoodie, I'm embarrassed to say teams like Tulsa, Tulane, etc, I legit don't say who we are playing because it always leads to puzzled looks and the occasional chuckle. Why us.
 
Duke cannot guard UNC in the paint at all. UNC should not take a shot deeper than 12' the whole game.
 
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If UNC could ever put it all together they would be the number one team without question. They just don't play smart.
 
Grayson Allen trying his drive the lane and get all the whistles routine but getting stuffed by UNC left and right. Coach K throws a fit and the refs call a hand check next possession.
 
80shusky said:
Grayson Allen trying his drive the lane and get all the whistles routine but getting stuffed by UNC left and right. Coach K throws a fit and the refs call a hand check next possession.
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nice to see him get hammered
 
ESPNU - Oklahoma down by 3 with 30 seconds left against Texas Tech.
 
Yep, they stopped going inside where they were killing Duke the whole game and let them come back and steal it. Dumb.
 
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I've always said that Marcus Paige was massively overrated. But he at least used to be pretty good.

He was downright horrendous tonight. I've probably watched 12 or so unc games over the last few years and he's been pretty bad in all of them. All he does is throw up step back bricks and wild contested bricks at the hoop.

On a side note. Great coaching by Roy there. Duke has no size, no depth, and was in big foul trouble and Johnson was destroying them down low. So what do they do?? shoot jump shot after jump shot and never dump it down low of course.
 
Anyone else think UNC's shooter was fouled on that last shot? The defender was in his grill and his arms were not straight up in his cylinder but out in front touching the shooters arms. Not trying to hate Duke just seeing what others think.
 
BUHusky10 said:
Anyone else think UNC's shooter was fouled on that last shot? The defender was in his grill and his arms were not straight up in his cylinder but out in front touching the shooters arms. Not trying to hate Duke just seeing what others think.
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I saw that and thought the same thing. But it wasn't a blatant hack and tough to call at the end of the game.

Plus unc didn't deserve the call the way they played down the stretch. They got what they deserved. Feels awful saying that about a duke opponent. Gross
 
BUHusky10 said:
Anyone else think UNC's shooter was fouled on that last shot? The defender was in his grill and his arms were not straight up in his cylinder but out in front touching the shooters arms. Not trying to hate Duke just seeing what others think.
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Like the foul called against Miller that won the game for Cincinnati.

Also when was the last time 3, 4 and 5 lost in the same day? Or 3 top 5 teams?
 
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caw said:
What do you consider a bubble team? 8 seed? 9 seed? Right now, they are probably in the 7-8 seed range. 9 at the worst. If that's the bubble, then yes they are on the bubble, but well on the safe side right now. they would have to lose a few more to start to worry.
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I don't know if they are. Their advanced metrics suck across the board.

KenPom: 56
Sagarin: 52
BPI: 50

I think those mean more than people give them credit.

In contrast, we're in the mid-20s in all of those.

And again, they have 3 sub-100 losses.
 
80shusky said:
Yep, they stopped going inside where they were killing Duke the whole game and let them come back and steal it. Dumb.
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With 13 minutes to go BJ has 27 points/17 boards. He take one shot in the remaining 13 minutes. Ends with 29/19. UNC board going nuts. Roy wins when he has outstanding talent but he also loses when he has maybe has the most talented team in CBB. He just isn't a very good game coach.
 
Matt1010 said:
He's well past his prime but certainly wasn't a fraud in the early 2000s...
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Even then he regularly lost games he shouldn't have.

He's a great recruiter and good motivator, but not a particularly great game coach. He's like Calipari in that sense: he can and will have enough talent, and coach them well enough off the court, to win titles, but he isn't going to be able to do what is necessary to shake things up mid-game, if necessary.

I mean...look at some of those Kansas teams that lost, sometimes in the second round.
 
tzznandrew said:
Even then he regularly lost games he shouldn't have.

He's a great recruiter and good motivator, but not a particularly great game coach. He's like Calipari in that sense: he can and will have enough talent, and coach them well enough off the court, to win titles, but he isn't going to be able to do what is necessary to shake things up mid-game, if necessary.

I mean...look at some of those Kansas teams that lost, sometimes in the second round.
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The fact that Roy never won a title with some of those incredible Kansas teams is quite astonishing.
 
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The fact that Roy has taken 4 years to "unleash" Johnson is also confusing. The guy has been super efficient for the past 3 years and its not like he has been stuck behind studs. I always wondered why the guy wasn't made for of a focal point for the UNC offense.
 
tzznandrew said:
Even then he regularly lost games he shouldn't have.

He's a great recruiter and good motivator, but not a particularly great game coach. He's like Calipari in that sense: he can and will have enough talent, and coach them well enough off the court, to win titles, but he isn't going to be able to do what is necessary to shake things up mid-game, if necessary.

I mean...look at some of those Kansas teams that lost, sometimes in the second round.
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In game adjustments are certainly not his strength, but does that make the guy a fraud?
 
walker11 said:
The fact that Roy has taken 4 years to "unleash" Johnson is also confusing. The guy has been super efficient for the past 3 years and its not like he has been stuck behind studs. I always wondered why the guy wasn't made for of a focal point for the UNC offense.
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Ollie has done an even poorer job of using Miller so infrequently this year, so we're throwing stones in glass houses here.

In the last 7 days, UNC and UConn both have showed that when they went up big, they felt comfortable just jacking up 3s instead of doing what got them their lead.
 
UConnStats said:
Ollie has done an even poorer job of using Miller so infrequently this year, so we're throwing stones in glass houses here.

In the last 7 days, UNC and UConn both have showed that when they went up big, they felt comfortable just jacking up 3s instead of doing what got them their lead.
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Fully agreed. When posting about Johnson, I was thinking that he is an even more skilled version of Miller. I have been criticizing Ollie for misusing Miller as well.
 
tzznandrew said:
Even then he regularly lost games he shouldn't have.

He's a great recruiter and good motivator, but not a particularly great game coach. He's like Calipari in that sense: he can and will have enough talent, and coach them well enough off the court, to win titles, but he isn't going to be able to do what is necessary to shake things up mid-game, if necessary.

I mean...look at some of those Kansas teams that lost, sometimes in the second round.
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I feel the same way criticizing Williams as Self, and Calipari, really. Yeah you could say they should win more, but their teams are constantly near the top of the polls, they make plenty of Final Fours and they have won titles. What more are we looking for? The NCAA tournament is pretty ruthless even to the best teams.
 
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