100 men vs 1 silverback gorilla

[CL82]

Yes they have, here's one reference, but please do your own research

How are wild gorillas habituated to people? - Berggorilla & Regenwald Direkthilfe e.V.

How are wild gorillas habituated to people?​

Normally, gorillas are very shy. If they detect a person, even from a great distance, they often flee. Therefore habituating them to the presence (for behavioural observation or tourism) of humans is a very lengthy process. It usually takes several years. During this time, people approach the animals very carefully and spend increasing periods of time with them. Most important is that the silverback leading the group accepts the presence of people. Only when this has been achieved, can researchers or tourists start visiting the gorillas.

Such a habituation has certain risks for gorillas and humans. Very important is the danger of disease transmission. The gorillas do not avoid poachers any more as soon as they have lost their fear and therefore are easy to hunt; moreover, they raid the fields of the local population.

So you're saying a more primitive gorilla would just run away from the hundred men? I'm counting that as a win.

 

[UconnU]

I think 100 men would be able to take down a silverback gorilla, the first 10 guys would get messed up though. I do not think 100 men would be able to take down a grizzly bear.

 

[Hans Sprungfeld]

Credit where credit is due: good mojo post for today's double dose of good news.

The Nardi announcement is understandably overshadowed, but no casual matter.

 

[Malamute]

I'll take the humans because we're not wimps when touching cold water like this.

It wasn’t the water, it was to 100 men on the other side he saw. This answers it.

 

[SubbaBub]

Interesting take.

What about the humans make you think they'd outlast the gorilla? Other than their weaker muscular makeup, horrible diet, excess of body fat and much, much worse cardiovascular condition?

Gorrillas do feel pain, they do have vulnerabilities, they also have a life expectancy of about 30 years in the wild vs 70 for humans.

Then there is the matter of this having been settled by evolution.

 

[nomar]

Yes they have, here's one reference, but please do your own research

How are wild gorillas habituated to people? - Berggorilla & Regenwald Direkthilfe e.V.

How are wild gorillas habituated to people?​

Normally, gorillas are very shy. If they detect a person, even from a great distance, they often flee. Therefore habituating them to the presence (for behavioural observation or tourism) of humans is a very lengthy process. It usually takes several years. During this time, people approach the animals very carefully and spend increasing periods of time with them. Most important is that the silverback leading the group accepts the presence of people. Only when this has been achieved, can researchers or tourists start visiting the gorillas.

Such a habituation has certain risks for gorillas and humans. Very important is the danger of disease transmission. The gorillas do not avoid poachers any more as soon as they have lost their fear and therefore are easy to hunt; moreover, they raid the fields of the local population.

I did my own research and I've concluded that if the 100 men gave the gorilla the measles vaccine, he'd die of autism

 

[CL82]

I did my own research and I've concluded that if the 100 men gave the gorilla the measles vaccine, he'd die of autism

I debated between the ❤️ and the laughing emoji.

Well played nomar.

 

[BlueandOG]

Vanilla nut tap wins the day.

"Cut your nails, for God's sake!"

 

[Mister P]

Humans don't have the, "I am an ant and I'm willing to die for my community" philosophy. The silverback will tear them to shreds one at a time and most will just run away.

Thought of this scene

 

[Flipside]

99 men running away is not an option ...

shades of this clip

 

[StllH8L8ner]

The gorilla would be Arnold.

 

[CL82]

The gorilla would be Arnold.

I remember that movie. I love the fact that they are two guys shooting, and they are ignored while all the security guards are focused on trying to fight Schwarzenegger.

"Hey that guy just shot Steve!"
"Never mind that we have an unarmed demand that we all should immediately try to gang tackle."

 

[Huskyforlife]

I wanna live inside the head of anyone who takes the human side in this debate. To surround the it, some amount of men are going to have to sacrifice their lives, and good luck convincing any average dude with a normal future to be the sacrifice.

 

[TheChamps990411]

Grizzly and it's not close.

Yeah i never understood the Grizzly v Gorilla thing. Grizzly are far bigger and are basically a biological death machine with an insane bite and razor sharp massive claws. As far as 100 men v a gorilla goes all 100 cannot attack at once but if the men are determined enough the gorilla will tire. Problem is how many men would be left to finish him off by reigning down fists and stomping him to death? Also someone said go for the eyes. They dont understand the utter rage and fight being blinded would unleash from that animal. This would have to be a brutal war of attrition that would be a horror to see. I think eventually numbers win out but these men would all have to be big powerful humans. No 5`8 160lb man will be able to generate enough force to wear down such a powerful animal. I think in the end the animal goes down more so from exhaustion and is then vulnerable to being finished off by whoever is left.

 

[Deepster]

I wanna live inside the head of anyone who takes the human side in this debate. To surround the it, some amount of men are going to have to sacrifice their lives, and good luck convincing any average dude with a normal future to be the sacrifice.

I hear you. I think that's a very "realistic" view of a pretty "unrealistic" scenario. If you want to make the argument for the humans, they're all ready to die a very gruesome death to accomplish the task and that's not very realistic. It'd be human nature to run for the hills after watching a gorilla rip off limbs and bite the face off the guy next to you.

 

[CL82]

I hear you. I think that's a very "realistic" view of a pretty "unrealistic" scenario. If you want to make the argument for the humans, they're all ready to die a very gruesome death to accomplish the task and that's not very realistic. It'd be human nature to run for the hills after watching a gorilla rip off limbs and bite the face off the guy next to you.

Possibly true. It's also possibly true that a gorilla seeing 100 naked guys running at him would think "I have no idea what this is, but I don't want any part of it."

 

[temery]

Possibly true. It's also possibly true that a gorilla seeing 100 naked guys running at him would think "I have no idea what this is, but I don't want any part of it."

good point. The humans would have to catch him first.

 

[nomar]

The gorilla would be Arnold.

My dad took me to see that when I was 8. Death count: 108.

 

[Huskyforlife]

I hear you. I think that's a very "realistic" view of a pretty "unrealistic" scenario. If you want to make the argument for the humans, they're all ready to die a very gruesome death to accomplish the task and that's not very realistic. It'd be human nature to run for the hills after watching a gorilla rip off limbs and bite the face off the guy next to you.

I don’t see the fun in the question if you take away the human psychology, but it is a different question if the humans don’t have any fear or capability of critical thought.

Possibly true. It's also possibly true that a gorilla seeing 100 naked guys running at him would think "I have no idea what this is, but I don't want any part of it."

I’m sure the gorilla would be afraid if it was surrounded and couldn’t run away, but once it’s cornered, it’s not gonna just lay down and give up. If the question was “could 100 humans scare a gorilla into running away,” I’m sure they could with proper preparation.

 

[Chin Diesel]

Gimme the humans.

First 30-40 are toast and will be mauled but eventually the gorilla tires and the humans stomp it to death.

AI agrees with me.

 

[Devland]

By eliminating weapons you are eliminating the humans greatest asset, intelligence. They use this intelligence to develop the weapons. The silverbacks greatest asset is strength. If you eliminate weapons then it needs to be balanced by eliminating the silverbacks strength.

 

[temery]

Gimme the humans.

First 30-40 are toast and will be mauled but eventually the gorilla tires and the humans stomp it to death.

AI agrees with me.

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So if Karaban was one of the 100, he'd just wait it out until the silverback gives up?

 

[superjohn]

Yeah i never understood the Grizzly v Gorilla thing. Grizzly are far bigger and are basically a biological death machine with an insane bite and razor sharp massive claws. As far as 100 men v a gorilla goes all 100 cannot attack at once but if the men are determined enough the gorilla will tire. Problem is how many men would be left to finish him off by reigning down fists and stomping him to death? Also someone said go for the eyes. They dont understand the utter rage and fight being blinded would unleash from that animal. This would have to be a brutal war of attrition that would be a horror to see. I think eventually numbers win out but these men would all have to be big powerful humans. No 5`8 160lb man will be able to generate enough force to wear down such a powerful animal. I think in the end the animal goes down more so from exhaustion and is then vulnerable to being finished off by whoever is left.

It would probably take around 5 Tom Haviland's to take out a Silverback with his bare hands. Not sure about a Grizzly/Kodiak/Polar bear...

 

[mussels]

Gimme the humans.

First 30-40 are toast and will be mauled but eventually the gorilla tires and the humans stomp it to death.

AI agrees with me.

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With apologies to Mike Tyson, everyone has a plan until the gorilla rips off the first guys head.

 

[Deepster]

Gimme the humans.

First 30-40 are toast and will be mauled but eventually the gorilla tires and the humans stomp it to death.

AI agrees with me.

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I don’t know the answer but I question the comments that the gorilla would tire easily. I think the first 20 humans get mauled before it breaks a sweat.

6 feet tall. 400 lbs and capable of lifting 10 times its own weight. Grabbing a guy and squashing his skull is like you or I squashing a ripe cantaloupe.