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1/12: NET 25, KenPom: 25

They will drop us how many spots today based on the Nova loss without Liam?
 
aburks41 said:
The “kill the clock” offense is so painful to watch and tbh I don’t really understand why we do it. Our normal offense takes 20-25 seconds to run anyways. What is the benefit of just dribbling around for 25 seconds and then heaving up a terrible shot? Sure it bleeds the clock the same way our normal offense does, but it kills the spreadsheet math which does make a difference when you are on the edge of a seed line in the NCAAT.

We scored 4 points in the final 8 minutes yesterday. We made a 25 point blowout look like a close game because we just decided to dribble around and get 3 shot clock violations in a row.
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It drove me absolutely nuts. I understand the desire to kill some clock...but no coach ever has ever said to dribble around until there is 1 second left on the shot clock and then throw up a prayer. We can kill clock until the 8=10 second mark and then actually run a set to get a decent shot off and get it off with less than 5 seconds on the shot clock. Taking a few more seconds to score a few more points is going to benefit us more than hurt us. I wanted to gouge my eyes out the last 8 minutes of the game.
 
These polls are absurd. I’m no fan of Pitino but how are they not even in the top 25? If we are 9 or 12 they are at least 15.
 
jibsey said:
These polls are absurd. I’m no fan of Pitino but how are they not even in the top 25? If we are 9 or 12 they are at least 15.
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There's a good chance they're in today.
 
Rankings like AP/coach's are just a barometer of "what would we be seeded if the tourney started this week"

Ultimately it does not matter as the seed we get is what does matter and who we play and our potential path to 7.

Metrics themselves don't really matter to me - trends in metrics matter - is our O getting better or worse, is our D getting better or worse, etc.
 
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jibsey said:
They will drop us how many spots today based on the Nova loss without Liam?
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Down 5 spots to #14. I guess they don't think too much of Villanova.

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HooperScooper said:
Down 5 spots to #14. I guess they don't think too much of Villanova.

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We are still the highest ranked team with 4 losses so I think our brand is keeping us at the 4-seed line. AP poll is very much “who just lost? Let’s move them down.” I don’t think the Nova loss will sting long term but hopefully those mid-week road games don’t lead to too many losses
 
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FfldCntyFan said:
I personally would have no problem if we are a five seed in this year's tournament as we still have that open on our bingo card:

One Seed - 1999; 2024
Two Seed - 2004
Three Seed - 2011
Four Seed - 2023
Seven Seed - 2014

We still need five, seven and eight.

Give us a five seed and let the four seed and one seed in our bracket soil their pants on selection Sunday.
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That would be fun, but in earnest, we're not gonna get a Providence pod if we're a 5 seed, possibly not even as a 4. A 3 or higher has to be the goal.
 
willie99 said:
5 seed is cool, love to watch the 4 seed and the 1 seed in our bracket crying when the brackets are released and then again after we send them home

Then watch the college bureaucrats tell us about "the body of work", because they can't talk about talent. And they have no idea what the eye test even means.
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You must have loved it last year when we were the 1 seed and the board collectively wept over Auburn and SD state being the 4 /5.
 
ConnHuskBask said:
You must have loved it last year when we were the 1 seed and the board collectively wept over Auburn and SD state being the 4 /5.
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I remember that now, we did have the conference of champions bracket. Didn't matter much. I did laugh at all those Purdue was better because of "their body of work" arguments. Hence I'm frequently mocking that "body of work" poppycock.
 
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Tenspro2002 said:
That would be fun, but in earnest, we're not gonna get a Providence pod if we're a 5 seed, possibly not even as a 4. A 3 or higher has to be the goal.
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In all candor I'm not sure this team wouldn't be better served going on the road for the first few rounds and there is a chance that even if we ended up in the west, midwest or south we could play our first two rounds in Providence.

I also believe that we may be a bit too entitled with our expectations if we view not getting a drivable subregional and regional site two years in a row would be a disappointment.
 
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A 5 seed sounds about right based on our whole body of work. The Big East is weak, and we're not lighting it up.
 
Tenspro2002 said:
That would be fun, but in earnest, we're not gonna get a Providence pod if we're a 5 seed, possibly not even as a 4. A 3 or higher has to be the goal.
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I think if we're a four or higher there's a good shot we get Providence; no teams in the northeast to really compete with for that site. Though they could certainly send some SEC team like Kentucky up that way if the S-curve falls in that direction... think it's still too early to tell.

As for being a five, I can never remember if the geographic priority is to your first/second round pod, or to the regional (i.e., if we're 17th on the S-curve, ceteris paribus, would we go to Providence and then like the West, or some other early site but in the East regional out of Newark?).

E: thinking about it, in 2022, when I believe we were 17th on the S-curve, we did get sent to Buffalo for the early round games but it was in the West regional. So that could answer my own question, but still not sure. And then obviously all the conference matchup considerations will complicate things further.
 
We spent a long time thinking it was best to be shipped out west. Playing near home is great, but it doesn't decide your fate.
 
FfldCntyFan said:
I also believe that we may be a bit too entitled with our expectations if we view not getting a drivable subregional and regional site two years in a row would be a disappointment.
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Last year we had Brooklyn and Boston. Are you talking about the 2 years before that? 2023 - Albany and Vegas. 2022 - Buffalo, and eh forget it
 
HooperScooper said:
Last year we had Brooklyn and Boston. Are you talking about the 2 years before that? 2023 - Albany and Vegas. 2022 - Buffalo, and eh forget it
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The two years in a row I was referring to are Brooklyn-Boston followed up by Providence-Newark. As great as it would be to have those paths in back to back tournaments, it won't be the end of the world if we end up with a path that requires air travel before San Antonio.
 
FfldCntyFan said:
The two years in a row I was referring to are Brooklyn-Boston followed up by Providence-Newark. As great as it would be to have those paths in back to back tournaments, it won't be the end of the world if we end up with a path that requires air travel before San Antonio.
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Ah, got you
 
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re marquette: "The projected 2-seed likely won't post enough Q1 wins to move up to the top line of the bracket, but a third straight No. 2 would be a remarkable feat for a program that has spent its recent years in the shadow of multiple national champions Villanova and Connecticut."

if a 1 seed is out of reach for marquette then it is for us too. but i'd sign up for the 3 in the east right now.
 
bendm said:
www.espn.com

Men's Bracketology: How the projected NCAA tournament field is taking shape

The selection show is almost here! Here's the latest look at what we're expecting when it starts.
www.espn.com

re marquette: "The projected 2-seed likely won't post enough Q1 wins to move up to the top line of the bracket, but a third straight No. 2 would be a remarkable feat for a program that has spent its recent years in the shadow of multiple national champions Villanova and Connecticut."

if a 1 seed is out of reach for marquette then it is for us too. but i'd sign up for the 3 in the east right now.
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Ironically, it depends on how many times we can beat Marquette.
 
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aburks41 said:
The “kill the clock” offense is so painful to watch and tbh I don’t really understand why we do it. Our normal offense takes 20-25 seconds to run anyways. What is the benefit of just dribbling around for 25 seconds and then heaving up a terrible shot? Sure it bleeds the clock the same way our normal offense does, but it kills the spreadsheet math which does make a difference when you are on the edge of a seed line in the NCAAT.

We scored 4 points in the final 8 minutes yesterday. We made a 25 point blowout look like a close game because we just decided to dribble around and get 3 shot clock violations in a row.
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We do it to prepare for close games down the road, really big games, tournament games. They'll be a game when we need to use the clock, score and win, so you practice for that.

The GOAT, my avatar, used to practice for that as well. That's why UConn was such a tough out in March
 
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