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“Unbelievable”

If I agree with and like nearly all of this post, but criticize you for closing with, "Grow up already" instead of cheering like a fan for him to continue "growing" on his path, you're unlikely to swing around to my point of view.

I doubt that Dan Hurley is unlikely to swing around to your point of view, however more punchy it might seem for you to put it so starkly.

We can all benefit from self-moderated expression, especially when we share the same overall goal.
He does have to grow up. When he flies off the handle, he forgets his job is to coach the team to win including find the right on court lineup.
 
He does have to grow up. When he flies off the handle, he forgets his job is to coach the team to win including find the right on court lineup.
You'd have done better pointing out that I carelessly left in a double negative that canceled out my point.

I don't dispute that, "Grow up" might represent a strong majority POV, just that it's an unlikely motivator that often represents a different emotionally immature take...and that few like to hear it or respond well to it.

The case for certain behaviors and patterns being counterproductive has already been made.

What's the case for 'boosting' it with a pejorative that often exacerbates things by making recipients defensive on the lesser point?
 
It was pretty biased vs Xavier. Not saying it doesn’t go our way sometimes, but that was not even close to a fairly called game. Some really awful calls. Charges on flops, a moving screen that wasn’t moving at all probably a dozen bad calls 11 for Xavier 1 for us. We lost, he got a T, I can’t blame him.
You honestly believe there were 11 bad calls on us and 1 on Xavier?

This sounds like some serious hyperbole, we watched the same game and I certainly didn't see that kind of disparity in how they called it.

I saw Xavier playing much more aggressively than us on offense with them taking it to the rim to score and UConn shooting threes the entire game, 2 of which Hawkins drew fouls on.

There was a huge ft disparity but it looks far less crazy in the context of how the two teams played the game and UConn fouling three times in the final minute when the game was already lost and Hurley getting T'd up. That's 8 ft's for Xavier right there.
 
I know it won't ever happen but I'd like to see as part of the official box score or game record officials needing to provide a brief description of the exact reason for T-ing up a coach or player.
 

If that’s true it should be a scandal and these refs should have their names attached. But of course refs are always given cover, never have to answer to the public, and can just slither away
 
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Hurley is a child and an absolute embarrassment. ‘I guess I shouldn’t have said unbelievable’ is the kind of shit a 7 year old would pull. Grow up. Leader of men smh. He also happens to be a damn good basketball coach so I will deal will him being a loser. Can his relative who posts here shake some sense into his hollow head?
 
Screw that. The refs need to act professionally and treat all coaches the same. Period. If you can't do that, get a new job. Dan Hurley isn't physically hurting anyone. Any when the refs are doing a bad job, he has every right to complain. He is sticking up for his players.
How's that working out?
Geez, “how’s that working out?” 14-1, a great stable of players here, a great class coming in.

I suppose it’s working out ok. Plus lots to learn from.
 
Hurley is a child and an absolute embarrassment. ‘I guess I shouldn’t have said unbelievable’ is the kind of a 7 year old would pull. Grow up. Leader of men smh. He also happens to be a damn good basketball coach so I will deal will him being a loser. Can his relative who posts here shake some sense into his hollow head?

Jesus there are some clowns on this board.
 
The “we weren’t aggressive enough to get foul calls” folks should rewatch the game. Xavier did plenty of things to warrant foul calls that were getting whistled the other side.

First few minutes alone:
  1. Xavier multiple players 3 second violations to try to prevent lob play no call
  2. Nunge push on sanogo no call
  3. Sanogo called for foul on lob to Nunge, there was no foul on the play
  4. Hawkins fouled on drive, no call
  5. Newton called for reach foul on made shot, no foul on the play
  6. Hurley warned for being out of coaching box
  7. Back down the court Miller out of box next to ref, no warning
  8. Karaban offensive board, fouled on layup attempt no call made

This is literally just the first 3 minutes of the game. Sure some calls did go our way, but it was 3-1. Xavier has had 15-25 fouls every game this year. They didn’t magically hold us to one of our worst offensive efficiency games of the year while committing 8 defensive fouls.
 
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This is the guy Hurley called a Freakin* Clown 4 or 5 times on national TV during the Nova game. The "High Knees Ref". I tend to agree with Danny's assessment, but I'd rather have had him shut up and get the win yesterday (I think the foul disparity was directly downstream from Danny's antics). A GREAT coach would have won the X game and then made a complaint through the appropriate channels. The refs were atrocious yesterday, but what do you expect when you embarrass their colleagues?

 
Hurley is a child and an absolute embarrassment. ‘I guess I shouldn’t have said unbelievable’ is the kind of a 7 year old would pull. Grow up. Leader of men smh. He also happens to be a damn good basketball coach so I will deal will him being a loser. Can his relative who posts here shake some sense into his hollow head?
Jesus there are some clowns on this board.
Chill out, this is probably Bobby.
 
The “we weren’t aggressive enough to get foul calls” folks should rewatch the game. Xavier did plenty of things to warrant foul calls that were getting whistled the other side.

First few minutes alone:
  1. Xavier multiple players 3 second violations to try to prevent lob play no call
  2. Nunge push on sanogo no call
  3. Sanogo called for foul on lob to Nunge, there was no foul on the play
  4. Hawkins fouled on drive, no call
  5. Newton called for reach foul on made shot, no foul on the play
  6. Hurley warned for being out of coaching box
  7. Back down the court Miller out of box next to ref, no warning
  8. Karaban offensive board, fouled on layup attempt no call made

This is literally just the first 3 minutes of the game. Sure some calls did go our way, but it was 3-1. Xavier has had 15-25 fouls every game this year. They didn’t magically hold us to one of our worst offensive efficiency games of the year while committing 8 defensive fouls.
The Hurley warning for being on the court was with around 4 minutes left in the second half and he was on the court way more than Miller was during the game.

Can you explain the college defensive 3 second rule to me?
 
Hurley is a child and an absolute embarrassment. ‘I guess I shouldn’t have said unbelievable’ is the kind of a 7 year old would pull. Grow up. Leader of men smh. He also happens to be a damn good basketball coach so I will deal will him being a loser. Can his relative who posts here shake some sense into his hollow head?
Out of bounds. Leave his family out of it.
 
Hurley is a child and an absolute embarrassment. ‘I guess I shouldn’t have said unbelievable’ is the kind of a 7 year old would pull. Grow up. Leader of men smh. He also happens to be a damn good basketball coach so I will deal will him being a loser. Can his relative who posts here shake some sense into his hollow head?
Yes, if only he responded to questions about technicals like his HOF predecessor Jim Calhoun:

“…He's writing down that I was laughing and he said, 'I interpret that as making fun of the official.' So, I guess, we're going to now go on what we're thinking. I could have been laughing … maybe I had gas."

 
The Hurley warning for being on the court was with around 4 minutes left in the second half and he was on the court way more than Miller was during the game.

Can you explain the college defensive 3 second rule to me?
This isn’t a stopped play official warning, it was just the ref speaking to Hurley during the play while Miller was doing the same thing with the same ref on the other side of the court and there was no discussion. It happened around 2 minutes into the game.

And yeah, my bad I added the defensive 3 seconds, no rule for NCAA there, just high school and NBA. Hurley needs to stop running the same play on the opening possession anyway.
 
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Yes, if only he responded to questions about technicals like his HOF predecessor Jim Calhoun:

“…He's writing down that I was laughing and he said, 'I interpret that as making fun of the official.' So, I guess, we're going to now go on what we're thinking. I could have been laughing … maybe I had gas."

what r u yammering on aboot with the jc and geno comps?
they have 'unbelievable' resumes, indicating that their methods culminated in great success.
danny has won squat.
ur starting to sound like john fanboy.
and, oh, after a challenging game ending with a tough loss, the vast, overwhelming, and inarguable majority of posts here since then are aboot danny. tele novelas are a tv thing, not a hoops thing.
u can look it up. or, just listen.
and tell hans while ur at it. he's been going full pretzle trying to make sense of this nonsense. iffn he keeps it up, he'll hurt his back. he acts like he trying to protect an abused puppy, or the cop handing out waaay tooo many parking tix on the night before xmas near the stores.
 
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I would like to think if that was the case then the league’s head of refereeing would give hell to the ref who called the T.

I’m not blaming Hurley, but man learn to pick your battles. Bitching about every call is tiresome and Unproductive.

Where the heck is his Dad/Wife/Brother to explain this?
If it has to be explained to him at this point in his career he should hang it up
It wasn't the T but it didn't help
What killed him was his ridiculous reluctance to recognize matchups and use his "depth" - he freaks out under pressure
 
Yes, if only he responded to questions about technicals like his HOF predecessor Jim Calhoun:

“…He's writing down that I was laughing and he said, 'I interpret that as making fun of the official.' So, I guess, we're going to now go on what we're thinking. I could have been laughing … maybe I had gas."


Totally the same situation. Hurr durr you still have time to delete this. Am I doing your lame twitter speak right?
 
You'd have done better pointing out that I carelessly left in a double negative that canceled out my point.

I don't dispute that, "Grow up" might represent a strong majority POV, just that it's an unlikely motivator that often represents a different emotionally immature take...and that few like to hear it or respond well to it.

The case for certain behaviors and patterns being counterproductive has already been made.

What's the case for 'boosting' it with a pejorative that often exacerbates things by making recipients defensive on the lesser point?


t rajendar confused - Imgflip
 
all this shows that, once again, dannys support is very wide, yet very thin.
the complete opposite of an iceberg.
it takes time, a lot of it, to be an iceberg.
jc? iceberg. geno? beyond iceberg, mebbe Greenland, or jay peak.
danny? november pond ice.
im not 'against him' as i think it possible for us to win stuff with him at the helm. i just would like to have conversations aboot basketball and not cookies, sage, and the over/under for how many games before he throws a chair, and sez it's the chair's fault.
 
what r u yammering on aboot with the jc and geno comps?
they have 'unbelievable' resumes, indicating that their methods culminated in great success.
danny has won squat.
ur starting to sound like john fanboy.
and, oh, after a challenging game ending with a tough loss, the vast, overwhelming, and inarguable majority of posts here since then are aboot danny. tele novelas are a tv thing, not a hoops thing.
u can look it up. or, just listen.
and tell hans while ur at it. he's been going full pretzle trying to make sense of this nonsense. iffn he keeps it up, he'll hurt his back. he acts like he trying to protect an abused puppy, or the cop handing out waaay tooo many parking tix on the night before xmas near the stores.
There is no sense in nonsense. Danny had a bad game, and most of those complaining that he's reverted back to old form appear completely unaware that their knee-jerk charges are far more clear examples of same old same old than they see in the coach. Who here isn't a work in progress?

The self-certain are rarely as right as they think they are. And I'm one of the few here who even attempt to comprehend your argot.

But "pretzle," now that's an interesting twist. Tyvm.
 
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The “we weren’t aggressive enough to get foul calls” folks should rewatch the game. Xavier did plenty of things to warrant foul calls that were getting whistled the other side.

First few minutes alone:
  1. Xavier multiple players 3 second violations to try to prevent lob play no call
  2. Nunge push on sanogo no call
  3. Sanogo called for foul on lob to Nunge, there was no foul on the play
  4. Hawkins fouled on drive, no call
  5. Newton called for reach foul on made shot, no foul on the play
  6. Hurley warned for being out of coaching box
  7. Back down the court Miller out of box next to ref, no warning
  8. Karaban offensive board, fouled on layup attempt no call made

This is literally just the first 3 minutes of the game. Sure some calls did go our way, but it was 3-1. Xavier has had 15-25 fouls every game this year. They didn’t magically hold us to one of our worst offensive efficiency games of the year while committing 8 defensive fouls.
We are on the road and we aren’t Duke, we aren’t getting any of those calls. This is how college basketball works.

Wait until X comes to CT - I bet we will receive a lot of help.
 
I’m really surprised more people aren’t upset about Goodman admitting refs are biased against Hurley. I don’t care if he calls them every slur in the book, call a T when necessary, but that shouldn’t affect the on court reffing of our team. There should be an investigation.
 
I’m really surprised more people aren’t upset about Goodman admitting refs are biased against Hurley. I don’t care if he calls them every slur in the book, call a T when necessary, but that shouldn’t affect the on court reffing of our team. There should be an investigation.
It happens.

When Jim Harbaugh first got to Michigan he used to bark at the refs all the time and it literally costed them games down the stretch when they didn’t get obvious calls.

There was nothing he can do but change and he did. Harbaugh is MUCH less demonstrative on the sideline than he was back in 2016 or in the NFL. Hurley has to grow.
 
If that’s true it should be a scandal and these refs should have their names attached. But of course refs are always given cover, never have to answer to the public, and can just slither away
Or maybe adjust and change your schtick it’s not working

Stop with the refs are out to get us. Just like in any line of work if you’re dealing with a nagging Karen guess what they are not getting any leeway and getting the short end of the stick.

There’s an art to working the refs and Dan has failed miserably
 
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