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Actually Kinnick's capacity is not over 70k and their attendance is in the mid to upper 60ks. While ISU is larger than Iowa, both are AAU flagship schools. Of course, none of this is relevant to the subject at hand, which is ISU has a rabid fan base. 26th - 28th in football attendance, 15th in...

I doubt many have any idea what the ISU mascot's name is, but we were talking about rabid fan bases not mascot names. No doubt the last two seasons have been good for the Cyclones, but in 2015 when ISU won three games the average attendance was 56,519. And that is on the heels of a two win...

I agree, you should be laughed at if you lose to UConn even if it was 17 years ago. Meanwhile...rabid

Iowa State will sell 45,000 season tickets this year and average 60,000+ per game. . So yeah, rabid.

I'm saying the Staples' article makes sense and the new deal with WWE supports his position that premium networks that rely on subscriber fees as the primary revenue driver will bear the brunt of disinterested cord cutters.

People aren't cutting cords to avoid over the air networks like ABC/CBS/NBC, etc...They are doing it to avoid paying for things they don't watch like ESPN, conference networks, and all the other stuff that demand a premium.

Both the Big 10 & PAC 12 deals come up before the Big 12's and none of the schools in those conferences have extended GORs past the current deal. Why would OU or UT? Or any school for that matter? No doubt the Big 12 is less valuable without either the Sooners or the Longhorns.

The Big 10's deal is the first one to come up (2022-23), then the PAC 12 (2023-24) & then the Big 12 (2024-25). Andy Staples had a pretty interesting piece recently on how the future may look. Tier 1 & 2 deals aren't predicated on cable subscribers, but currently conference networks are. Can...

A lot has changed since 2010. Namely, the Big 12 schools are getting very good media income while still maintaining round robin competition and nationally viable teams. Unless something happens to drastically alter the Big 12's income relative to the other four major conferences, I doubt the...

2017 average attendance: ISU - 58,000, OSU - 57,000, WVU - 56,000, Tech - 55,000, & KSU - 51,000. Baylor & TCU were both at 44,000. The AAC averaged 29,000. The first five look nothing like an AAC school. Baylor & TCU perhaps, but they actually look more like ACC schools.

Why would Texas or OU extend their current GORs? For that matter, why would any schools in the Big 12 (or any other conference) extend their rights when there are no new media rights being negotiated? Answer: they wouldn't because there is zero reason to. OU has a great set up with Fox Sports...

So would averaging better crowds than titans like UTSA, Troy, UAB, and D1-AA Montana & James Madison. A small 40k stadium and it's still only half full. Eight AAC schools have better average attendance and three have worse. UConn would need to increase attendance by 40% just to get to the AAC...

Per Jon Wilner of the San Jose Mercury News, P5 conference bowl & CFP payout per school... Big 12 - $31 million Big 10 - $27.3 million PAC 12 - $26.1 million SEC - $25.3 million ACC - $22.9 million

OK, congrats on being so smart your heavily subsidized athletic dept had to eat nearly $3 million dollars in unwanted tickets and turning the national media's spotlight on your flaccid fan support.

Dumped in favor of a football one? Uh no, the football point was the main topic. I threw the basketball attendance in merely to point out that your basketball attendance isn't anything close to special either. I hope you can get back to your days of crowds in the upper 30s for football, that's a...

No, I haven't and it appears as though many people have never been there. My point wasn't about the UMass stadium, it was about UMass's awful attendance and how it would be foolish to point at the Boston demographics as some sort of selling point for UMass football. The same thing for SJSU...

You're right about Syracuse, their average of 33,753 is 30% less than the ACC average. Not a good look.

Rutgers & Syracuse? You don't even compare favorably to the conference you complain about. UConn is almost 25% under the AAC attendance AVERAGE for football. The abysmal attendance figures and the unsustainable level of public funds needed to prop up the athletic dept point to a very low level...

All that population and yet you average 20,715 for football. Even such big draws as Arkansas State, Wyoming, & Marshall have bigger crowds. Your basketball? It wasn't even in the top 50 for attendance in 2017. Such paltry numbers destroy any notion of "dominating" NYC. So few care.

Doesn't sound like the Big 12 is interested in adding any current G5 schools.

Agree about the brilliance of the pro rata expansion clause. Current members don't receive a haircut if they add marginal schools, negotiate a higher payout if they don't add teams, or negotiate a higher payout while adding a couple of marquee names and agreeing to waive the clause. Some...

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So Bob Bowlsby, various Big 12 ADs, ISU Pres. Leath, and numerous media outlets are all "wish-casting"? No offense, but I believe them. Who you believe is your choice.

Actually I was referring to your 2018 time frame, but since $40-$50 million was mentioned, the Big 12 schools are slated to be receiving $40 million in the later years of the current contract. BTW, that figure doesn't include what each school earns for it's third tier inventory.

It's a cold, barren world when you are reduced to hoping other schools are tossed aside and bragging about a single conference win.

And that is honestly not right. College athletics were meant to be regional rivalries with schools that shared common traits not some made for television event with zero flavor. If you have so many schools in your conference that you play another school every four to six years, that is no longer...

Do you truly believe that?

Yeah, I know that's what you're saying. I'm not overly familiar with your ability to see into the future, please excuse my skepticism. Frankly, the chance of only 30-40 teams being in the top level of college football is exceedingly small. On the other hand, if that future vision helps you cope...

Not much, but some when your team had one conference win. But when you're bitter, you use what you can.

Well that is one optional future pretend world. Meanwhile in today's reality...

The game ISU won at UConn several years ago was televised. Don't know about the UConn win in Ames back in 2002. Not that any of that matters which includes whatever feeble point you were attempting to make.

I think that's a valid argument, but here is what some people don't consider when discussing conference realignment: control. All the schools in the Big 12 are making nice (and growing) paychecks and that includes UT and OU. Every conference has a couple of schools that have the most influence...

College sports are much more important than pro sports in some states and Iowa is one of those places. ISU and Iowa total 130,000+ for football, 28,000+ for men's basketball, and 16,000+ for women's basketball in a state with less than 3 million people. When the two schools meet for their...

Oh that "clown". Have heard nothing to indicate he is anything but completely healed. Thanks for your concern.

Me too, but what "clown" is that?