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tykurez

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Jesus Mau - that is so horrible and I'm so sorry.

My wife has had this procedure done a couple times now. Each time it was done at a dermatologist's office who is very experienced in that kind of work. Typically they do not offer prescriptions before or after, rather they tell you to keep it covered, cleaned and hydrated. I have to imagine these are very low risk - you can literally walk into your dermatologist appointment and if they find something they want to take out they will do it right there, very quick. I'm not even close to having any medical knowledge - but this sounds like a horrible results maybe due to infection? (MRSA or something similar?) What hospital performed this procedure?
 

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Mau, my condolences. A tragedy.

Not my area of the law, but you should certainly investigate. As Taste suggested, speak to a few people based on the facts you currently know, and then seek more facts based on your conversations with the lawyers. Someone here might do med mal work.
 

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I haven't been on here for very long but you've got my most sincere condolences. Just tragic.
 
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Ok so more detail, not that it changes everything but I did not know the full story. He went in 2 weeks prior and his doctor looked at it (size of a freckle pretty much) and froze it. They went on vacation to Myrtle for a week and came back it looked red and a bit larger so they went back to him last Wednesday. The Dr immediately had him go see a surgeon at the hospital (mid State) who then immediately asked for an EKG so he could perform the surgery and took a 2cm X 4cm gouge out of his chest. Now no one knows at this point it was non cancerous until after so the reaction, only to me and I know nothing, was expedited purely on assumption right? So then he passes last evening resulting from sepsis leading to heart failure. I'm sorry I never want to chase something that would not only seem pointless, but to make a point. But just reading into it without any knowledge, there has to be something here. I know his wife and my sister said yes to an autopsy and actually, the dr's at Hartford recommended one for whatever reason.

Sorry to add to a sad day but I am somehow now upset more than just losing my nephew, I need to know if someone should pay. Hate to be like that but please, this just doesn't seem right!

And to all your thoughts and prayers, as well as any input form the legal and medical views you have, thanks so much to all of you. Again, my cyber buddies help me through another rough outing. Even when I disagree with you guys I still love ya!;)
 
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That is awful mau. My deepest condolences.

Was the hospital the procedure was done at a teaching school (meaning a residency might have done the procedure)?

Medical malpractice suits are very difficult. Most doctors dont like going against a colleague and a lot of doctors are part of the same circle that have affiliations with the same hospitals. You need to find a doctor outside of that hospital and circle who will go against what the DR who did the procedure that was done.

My fiance had a hemorrhoidectomy 2 years ago at the request of a specialist at Yale. Her primary DR after the procedure (he was never consulted about the procedure) said she should have never had that procedure as that should have been step C in the process and the Dr skipped over steps A and B. The procedure didnt hold and she had to have the same procedure a 2nd time to repair whatever what wrong in the first procedure. Long story short her primary Dr told her off the record that the Dr hacked her up and she should have never had the procedure to begin with. She was out of work for close to 6 months from the 2 surgeries. Two law firms told her she had a case but it would be difficult because she had to get a DR outside of Yale who would testify against the Dr who did the procedure and it would cost a lot of money to entice a Dr to go against a colleague in that field. Said her best bet was to find a small law firm who wouldn't mind putting in the legwork to build a case but it would take years. She decided it wasn't worth it and just let it be.

Good luck with everything.
 
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That is awful mau. My deepest condolences.

Was the hospital the procedure was done at a teaching school (meaning a residency might have done the procedure)?

Medical malpractice suits are very difficult. Most doctors dont like going against a colleague and a lot of doctors are part of the same circle that have affiliations with the same hospitals. You need to find a doctor outside of that hospital and circle who will go against what the DR who did the procedure that was done.

My fiance had a hemorrhoidectomy 2 years ago at the request of a specialist at Yale. Her primary DR after the procedure (he was never consulted about the procedure) said she should have never had that procedure as that should have been step C in the process and the Dr skipped over steps A and B. The procedure didnt hold and she had to have the same procedure a 2nd time to repair whatever what wrong in the first procedure. Long story short her primary Dr told her off the record that the Dr hacked her up and she should have never had the procedure to begin with. She was out of work for close to 6 months from the 2 surgeries. Two law firms told her she had a case but it would be difficult because she had to get a DR outside of Yale who would testify against the Dr who did the procedure and it would cost a lot of money to entice a Dr to go against a colleague in that field. Said her best bet was to find a small law firm who wouldn't mind putting in the legwork to build a case but it would take years. She decided it wasn't worth it and just let it be.

Good luck with everything.

good info method thanks so much
 

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It does sound like they went out of order or out of haste. Typically they will scrape a bit first, send it for a biopsy, and if it comes back with any indication of skin cancer or pre-skin cancer cells, they'll advise removal. From my experience, it's such a simple procedure so I do not fault you searching for answers. Again - so sorry for you and your family's loss.
 

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Hey Mau...remember our old buddy @gars44 ? MAYBE he's the guy for you!!!

Get GARS!!! (Gary Strickland)
Man, you can't spit on the Boneyard without hitting an attorney.

This commecial cracked me up, it seemed like a) the start of a cable Law and Order rip off and b) a testimonial that the entire firm can walk down stairs either individually or collectively.
 

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I truly feel for you, mau. Regarding the loss of a loved one, and regarding your indecision re a malpractice suit. I have been in that situation 3 times -- twice for myself, once for my son when he was 10. In one, we were talked out of it by my GP, who said we should have a case, but it would be next to impossible to win. In the other two, the doctors involved simply lied, and there was no way to get anyone in the OR to corroborate the truth as we knew it.
 

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So sorry for your loss, that is just awful.

I would imagine that you're up against whether the surgeon deviated from the standard of care for that procedure, minus any underlying conditions. The fact that an EKG was ordered pre-procedure makes me wonder if a) there were concerns about the proximity to the heart and b) was there underlying cardiac disease or obesity. If he was under 40, there is not a ton of literature that would otherwise suggest the EKG. But something obviously triggered that.
 

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Man, you can't spit on the Boneyard without hitting an attorney.

This commecial cracked me up, it seemed like a) the start of a cable Law and Order rip off and b) a testimonial that the entire firm can walk down stairs either individually or collectively.

The music fires me up so much I want to run through a brick wall....... And then sue the builder of said wall for resulting injury.
 
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So sorry for your loss, that is just awful.

I would imagine that you're up against whether the surgeon deviated from the standard of care for that procedure, minus any underlying conditions. The fact that an EKG was ordered pre-procedure makes me wonder if a) there were concerns about the proximity to the heart and b) was there underlying cardiac disease or obesity. If he was under 40, there is not a ton of literature that would otherwise suggest the EKG. But something obviously triggered that.

46 years of age. Not that close to the heart and not obese, big kid. All facts his wife and my sis will need to gather but the more informed I become here the more I can assist them. Thanks again
 
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Had some fun with gars44 back in the day, good guy. Maybe I should call and check him out huh? Thanks Dove

Absolutely. We have enough dirt on him that he will work for his client!

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My heart dropped in a nano second reading your post Mau. So sorry for this sudden tragic loss. I do not have any legal or medical knowledge, but I sure can keep you in my thoughts and hope for updates. Stay strong Mau.
 
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If something is suspected to be a skin cancer, the first procedure would be excisional biopsy and pathological analysis, not freezing. If it was thought to be benign, then freezing may be okay. When he returned with redness, perhaps it should have been investigated and a culture and antibiotics may have been indicated. I agree with some of the posters that perhaps other co-morbid conditions preexisted which may have contributed to his development of septic shock and multi organ system failure. This case clearly will be reviewed. A good attorney will know how to proceed, get expert witnesses to review the records, and decide if it is worth pursuing. Remember everyone, nothing is routine.
 
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Very sorry Mau, from a freckle to this must be very hard for your family to deal with. When you go for surgery they have us sign the paper explaining things can go wrong for a reason. It is possible he picked up an infection at the freckle site in Myrtle beach and the docs were then cutting out the infected tissue. Being where it was he may have gotten pericarditis from the sepsis. Since health care now is all about patient outcomes I would think there should have been some communication between the docs staff and your nephew post freezing of the freckle but they may have said call us if anything is abnormal as well. This could be a long slog to get relief from the pain this has left your family in. If that is possible.
 
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Hey Mau...remember our old buddy @gars44 ? MAYBE he's the guy for you!!!

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Hey thanks Dove! Mau, give me a call, I'd be happy to talk to you about it. Cell is 860 794-5461. No attorney is going to charge you for a review of this case. These cases are difficult because no one ever wants to believe the emperor has no clothes. The defense bar plays on this natural inclination of jurors to seek out some other reason, but the fact is malpractice is incredibly common, it just doesn't typically cause enough injury to justify the cost and pain of a lawsuit. Of course the defense will say hospital borne infection, "risk of the procedure," that he delayed too long returning to the hospital, who knows what else? But you have a regional hospital where most of the malpractice cases around here arise (Mid-State?) and you have an ideal demographic, certainly worth taking a look at.
 
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Hey thanks Dove! Mau, give me a call, I'd be happy to talk to you about it. Cell is 860 794-5461. No attorney is going to charge you for a review of this case. These cases are difficult because no one ever wants to believe the emperor has no clothes. The defense bar plays on this natural inclination of jurors to seek out some other reason, but the fact is malpractice is incredibly common, it just doesn't typically cause enough injury to justify the cost and pain of a lawsuit. Of course the defense will say hospital borne infection, "risk of the procedure," that he delayed too long returning to the hospital, who knows what else? But you have a regional hospital where most of the malpractice cases around here arise (Mid-State?) and you have an ideal demographic, certainly worth taking a look at.

Thanks gars will do soon.
 
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It is certainly not right. My god what a Terrible story. So at end of day your nephew lost his life due to a precautionary surgery. That is crazy. You have every right to be upset at the misfortune and what from the surface sounds like a malpractice. Autopsy would be interesting and since even doctors are a calling for it might be telling which direction you and your family take.

Best of luck and my condolences on loss of your nephew to these unfortunate circumstances
 
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