The new NCAA proposal is to allow unlimited transfers to those in "good academic standing". Some ambiguity is built in as usual.Would love to know how this all works with academic credits transferring. Assuming kids that transfer multiple times are probably not graduating.
Yeah that's great but what about being afforded real economic opportunity by getting a college degree?The new NCAA proposal is to allow unlimited transfers to those in "good academic standing". Some ambiguity is built in as usual.
Folks need to relax on the new system. It's a new paradigm, and cannot be reconciled with NCAA noncompensated labor of the past. 98% of these guys are not going pro, and are financially better off maximizing their earnings potential now. These guys have agents now and Hurley's own agent told him not to publicly deny the Kentucky job! Extra covid years are throwing a wrench into things, players, coaches, programs and boosters having little experience in a new, less than transparent process are throwing a wrench into things. The market will work itself out in a few years, not without some heartbreak and idiocy, but I'm happy these guys can finally make a few bucks and have some agency in their pursuits. As for losing fans, that's naga, naga, not gonna happen. Content consumption increases every year and while fan behavior and content delivery may change, media value is increasing proportionally (except for NASCAR lol)
So you would inhibit athletes from transferring based on motivation? No one's talking about reducing the abilities of nonathletes to transfer for any reason whatsoever. Seems extremely prejudicial.Yeah that's great but what about being afforded real economic opportunity by getting a college degree?
You're one of those people who's focusing on shiny trinkets rather than the real goal of college athletic scholarships.So you would inhibit athletes from transferring based on motivation? No one's talking about reducing the abilities of nonathletes to transfer for any reason whatsoever. Seems extremely prejudicial.
People are contorting themselves all over the place because change is difficult, but inevitable.
You can't have a degree program though without a field, and there is no field in sports currently, and none will pop up overnight. You'll actually need some body of work, whether in books, exercise, training, something, anything, that would constitute a field. And the person offering these classes would have to have a degree in an adjacent field, or none of it happens at all. In other words, they can't give out degrees if there isn't a person with a degree to give them out. So, someone in an adjacent field would have to create an interdisciplinary program. I can only think of the literature of sports, or something to do with exercise science, the history of sports, sports and sociology, sports administration, these kind of things.This is the next obvious step in “college” athletics.
Athletes will be allowed to play without taking classes. Their degree program will be them participating in whatever sport they play.
The way things are accelerating I give it three years at best before all remaining remnants of the college athletic model as we knew it disappears completely.
Enjoy these past two years because what we love about college basketball, and UConn basketball, will not exist.
100% correct, it's not happening unless they already have a degree and come in as grad students.Would love to know how this all works with academic credits transferring. Assuming kids that transfer multiple times are probably not graduating.
People dissuade and inhibit regular students from transferring all the time. For one, credits infrequently transfer over, which is a form of inhibiting them, and two, the cost and extra classes creates a setback for them.So you would inhibit athletes from transferring based on motivation? No one's talking about reducing the abilities of nonathletes to transfer for any reason whatsoever. Seems extremely prejudicial.
People are contorting themselves all over the place because change is difficult, but inevitable.
That was never happening before, but the national degree rate for all students is around 60% anyway. If you're transferring beyond your freshman year, I'm assuming you're almost certainly not going to get a degree. Your eligibility will run out long before you get one. So will your funding. It is less likely that you get your degree than it used to be. And the high schools and colleges don't make it any easier.You don't want the kids in college. It's still extremely important for the overwhelming majority of players to get their degrees.
Ok then they won’t be enrolled students. They’ll be university employees. However it’s done, it won’t involve taking classes.You can't have a degree program though without a field, and there is no field in sports currently, and none will pop up overnight. You'll actually need some body of work, whether in books, exercise, training, something, anything, that would constitute a field. And the person offering these classes would have to have a degree in an adjacent field, or none of it happens at all. In other words, they can't give out degrees if there isn't a person with a degree to give them out. So, someone in an adjacent field would have to create an interdisciplinary program. I can only think of the literature of sports, or something to do with exercise science, the history of sports, sports and sociology, sports administration, these kind of things.
When it comes to imagining playing a sport, though, I'm stumped in trying to find an adjacent field. What would it be? Maybe something like Dance & Sport? But dance requires all sorts of study which just recreates the same problem I'm mentioning above.
And for those forward-looking types…in a few years when the transition is made to athletes being University employees instead of enrolled students there’ll no longer be a limit on how many years an employee can play on a university team.Ok then they won’t be enrolled students. They’ll be university employees. However it’s done, it won’t involve taking classes.
UNLV 90?A mid major last won a title in 2003
Before that was 1962
Jack Welch was a steaming diaper load who probably cost his shareholders $billions through his incompetent management. If he had a theory, you can be pretty sure it was wrong.It's the pareto effect or the Jack Welch theory of management. Need to turn the bottom 20% each year. That's kind of what this is. By bottom 20% I mean unhappy, underappreciated, underperforming etc, not necessarily poor performers.
I mean, why not just make them team employees.Ok then they won’t be enrolled students. They’ll be university employees. However it’s done, it won’t involve taking classes.
I see it like kids going to community college to get a scholarship and credits to a bigger school. Pharmaceutical students and engineers do it but athletes can’t???