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If UConn could actually get this done what do you guys think?
from poster - FromTheInside
Word on the street(UConn edition)
First off remember i made that "Scott" thread a couple days ago? Yeah, he didn't disappoint. All the bad cop being played and it was his turn to switch it up.
Anyway. Word is that UConn while pitching itself to anyone who will listen has a little something something brewing if the split happens either from the NCAA or to a d4 type division. UConn thinks the following:
1) If ND is allowed to be a indy then BYU most likley will be a indy in the new setup also. If thats the case then there is potential for UConn to place itself as a indy.
2) If indys are not allowed then ND has to join the ACC or buy out of its fresh ACC deal and then sign full time with the B1G. It seems very realistic that ND picked its home and would join the ACC full time if this option was the case. UConn feels that if this option happens then they are #16 ahead of Cincy and Temple.
Now, with that being said here is whats going on. UConn has started to set up its case for Indy status behind doors. It has full support of SNY which is extremely important to this because that's a extremely gifted TV relationship for both sides. Together they believe if done correctly that UConn's own TV contract could be worth 25-30mil. Yes thats right. What happens is SNY gets everything home wise and some other things also. That much inventory of 2 brand programs and a football program thats then part of the split/d4 is worth a lot to the NYC metro/upstateCT. Its a huge potential type deal.
UConn has been in deep talks with the following:
-The Big East. They are not quite there yet but the deal could look something like this. UConn other sports(not football, bball or wbball) would join the BE full time and help them schedule wise in many small sports. UConn has great soccer and baseball among other sports so its a good boost for both sides and they mutually feel its a good idea. For this, UConn will sign "league lenght" contracts bball wise for both programs. What that means is that each bball program UConn has will play every team in the BE as ooc games. split them home and away. so if the BE is 10 teams thats 10 games, 12 is 12. you get it. These games will be added into the meat of the BE schedule. So basically UConn fills its what would be conference time of the year schedule with BE games as OOC games and the BE wins because they get tons of quality. When UConn has a home game SNY gets it, when a BE team has a home game Fox gets it. Its a huge TV setup for both sides. There is also already talk that Providence and UConn will play every 3rd game at the Casinos as a neutral site among other things. This contract is good for up to 16 members of the BE size wise supposedly(tells you what the BE is thinking huh?) UConn has a 1 year notice they must give to back out of this and it costs them nothing. So basically they have a very quality agreement on both sides and they all understand one day when UConn gets a p5 invite they will go all sports. If UConn leaves within the 1 year length then they owe 1mil to each team of the BE. my 2 cents? I think it makes a lot of sense for both sides. UConn is clearly getting very creative right away.
-The PAC and the SEC. UConn is offering both this. They want 2 football games a year in oct/nov. 1 home 1 away. they also are offering 4 bball games from both programs as OOC. 2 home 2 away. the PAC/SEC can pick all teams involved. the catch is teams must be rotated. so if uconn visits USC for a game the next game must be at UConn. UConn by making a contract with the league becomes a bit more involved and makes some more friends if you will. But it allows both of these leagues to now have some media/games in NYC basically. UConn is really pumping that. Stanford-UConn girls games. Zona/UCLA vs the UConn boys. Bringing Washington to NYC, Florida, Bama type games. UConn has something to be sold and trust me they are doing so.
-Rutgers, MD and PSU. UConn is offering these 3 schools literally the whole boat. They want 4 or 6 year deals with each of them. every sport they play. not joking. UConn is offering 5k seats to them to sell also. So the schools can travel very well as a group. Were talking soccer and girls volleyball type games.
-UConn is in talks with Bosie, Cincy and BYU to create a 4 team Indy alliance basically where these 4 play each other the last 3 weeks of the year. They have all scheduled each other so now they are trying to shuffle things around. This will also lead to basketball games yes.
-UMass, Ohio and NY. Look for UConn to fill with these 3 schools.
SO a outside look at it.
2015 football schedule could have:
UMass
Rutgers
@MD or PSU
PAC1
@PAC2
SEC1
@SEC2
@BYU
Bosie
@Cincy
bball?
2 PAC
@2Pac
2 SEC
@ 2 SEC
5 BE
@ 5 BE
@BYU
Bosie
Cincy
among other games of course but when you look at it you can see whats going on.
1) Its a way for UConn to not only survive but actually thrive
2) sos/rpi type arguments are not needed as quality is there for sure
3) it gives SNY one hell of a inventory, now you understand the $ side of it
4) it clearly allows UConn to continue to build its programs and make $
5) Notice how the ACC and B1G don't have contracts but UConn is interested in the eastern Big teams. creating the right buzz goes a long way long term imho.
If UConn could actually get this done what do you guys think?
from poster - FromTheInside
Word on the street(UConn edition)
First off remember i made that "Scott" thread a couple days ago? Yeah, he didn't disappoint. All the bad cop being played and it was his turn to switch it up.
Anyway. Word is that UConn while pitching itself to anyone who will listen has a little something something brewing if the split happens either from the NCAA or to a d4 type division. UConn thinks the following:
1) If ND is allowed to be a indy then BYU most likley will be a indy in the new setup also. If thats the case then there is potential for UConn to place itself as a indy.
2) If indys are not allowed then ND has to join the ACC or buy out of its fresh ACC deal and then sign full time with the B1G. It seems very realistic that ND picked its home and would join the ACC full time if this option was the case. UConn feels that if this option happens then they are #16 ahead of Cincy and Temple.
Now, with that being said here is whats going on. UConn has started to set up its case for Indy status behind doors. It has full support of SNY which is extremely important to this because that's a extremely gifted TV relationship for both sides. Together they believe if done correctly that UConn's own TV contract could be worth 25-30mil. Yes thats right. What happens is SNY gets everything home wise and some other things also. That much inventory of 2 brand programs and a football program thats then part of the split/d4 is worth a lot to the NYC metro/upstateCT. Its a huge potential type deal.
UConn has been in deep talks with the following:
-The Big East. They are not quite there yet but the deal could look something like this. UConn other sports(not football, bball or wbball) would join the BE full time and help them schedule wise in many small sports. UConn has great soccer and baseball among other sports so its a good boost for both sides and they mutually feel its a good idea. For this, UConn will sign "league lenght" contracts bball wise for both programs. What that means is that each bball program UConn has will play every team in the BE as ooc games. split them home and away. so if the BE is 10 teams thats 10 games, 12 is 12. you get it. These games will be added into the meat of the BE schedule. So basically UConn fills its what would be conference time of the year schedule with BE games as OOC games and the BE wins because they get tons of quality. When UConn has a home game SNY gets it, when a BE team has a home game Fox gets it. Its a huge TV setup for both sides. There is also already talk that Providence and UConn will play every 3rd game at the Casinos as a neutral site among other things. This contract is good for up to 16 members of the BE size wise supposedly(tells you what the BE is thinking huh?) UConn has a 1 year notice they must give to back out of this and it costs them nothing. So basically they have a very quality agreement on both sides and they all understand one day when UConn gets a p5 invite they will go all sports. If UConn leaves within the 1 year length then they owe 1mil to each team of the BE. my 2 cents? I think it makes a lot of sense for both sides. UConn is clearly getting very creative right away.
-The PAC and the SEC. UConn is offering both this. They want 2 football games a year in oct/nov. 1 home 1 away. they also are offering 4 bball games from both programs as OOC. 2 home 2 away. the PAC/SEC can pick all teams involved. the catch is teams must be rotated. so if uconn visits USC for a game the next game must be at UConn. UConn by making a contract with the league becomes a bit more involved and makes some more friends if you will. But it allows both of these leagues to now have some media/games in NYC basically. UConn is really pumping that. Stanford-UConn girls games. Zona/UCLA vs the UConn boys. Bringing Washington to NYC, Florida, Bama type games. UConn has something to be sold and trust me they are doing so.
-Rutgers, MD and PSU. UConn is offering these 3 schools literally the whole boat. They want 4 or 6 year deals with each of them. every sport they play. not joking. UConn is offering 5k seats to them to sell also. So the schools can travel very well as a group. Were talking soccer and girls volleyball type games.
-UConn is in talks with Bosie, Cincy and BYU to create a 4 team Indy alliance basically where these 4 play each other the last 3 weeks of the year. They have all scheduled each other so now they are trying to shuffle things around. This will also lead to basketball games yes.
-UMass, Ohio and NY. Look for UConn to fill with these 3 schools.
SO a outside look at it.
2015 football schedule could have:
UMass
Rutgers
@MD or PSU
PAC1
@PAC2
SEC1
@SEC2
@BYU
Bosie
@Cincy
bball?
2 PAC
@2Pac
2 SEC
@ 2 SEC
5 BE
@ 5 BE
@BYU
Bosie
Cincy
among other games of course but when you look at it you can see whats going on.
1) Its a way for UConn to not only survive but actually thrive
2) sos/rpi type arguments are not needed as quality is there for sure
3) it gives SNY one hell of a inventory, now you understand the $ side of it
4) it clearly allows UConn to continue to build its programs and make $
5) Notice how the ACC and B1G don't have contracts but UConn is interested in the eastern Big teams. creating the right buzz goes a long way long term imho.