Rogue One

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  1. HuskyHawk

    HuskyHawk I'm tryin' real hard to be the shepherd.

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    For people like me (I was 10 when Star Wars came out) the damning aspect of the prequels was how good they could have been. Really, it's almost a better story line and Lucas just mangled it with utter incompetence. Both actors chosen for Anakin were dreadful. Natalie Portman was ok, and looked good in the white spacesuit. The other costumes were stupid. Liam Neesom and McGregor were good choices actually. But all were limited because the screenwriting was terrible...like straight to video low budget no-star terrible. They spent almost an hour on a kid winning a pod race in #1. Really?

    I would go 5, 4, 7, 6, 2, 3, 1.
     
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  2. HuskyHawk

    HuskyHawk I'm tryin' real hard to be the shepherd.

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    They made 3 Vader backstory movies, but you'd be forgiven for not thinking of them that way.
     
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  3. Excalibur

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    I remember after Episode II Lewis Black claimed that he had discovered what the Force is -- it's the ability to recite cheesy lines without cracking up.
     
  4. ZooCougar

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    They all sucked. Technically they were Anakin movies.
     
  5. Excalibur

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  6. HuskyHawk

    HuskyHawk I'm tryin' real hard to be the shepherd.

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    And Anakin is Vader. So my point about those movies is confirmed. You are here saying..."I could really go for a cool Vader backstory movie"...and they made three that were so bad you feel like you didn't even get one. Yet Vader's backstory is possibly the single most interesting aspect of the whole Star Wars universe. Ugh.
     
  7. ZooCougar

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    Not sure if you're arguing with me but, It could have been the most interesting thing. But it wasn't.

    I'd make a Vader movie that takes places between 4 and 5, put him in the Emperor's doghouse after the death star goes down.
     
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  8. FeedTheDove

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    Sittin' this one out.

    Glad y'all enjoyed R1.
     
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  9. intlzncster

    intlzncster i fart in your general direction

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    Then logically, the bounty hunter movie should really be the Solo movie.
     
  10. intlzncster

    intlzncster i fart in your general direction

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    Hey, I already told you what was the most interesting aspect in the whole Star Wars universe. It's the 'Jedi mythology/history/origin stories. Exploration of Dark vs Light etc.' Pay attention.

    Rogue One
     
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  11. ZooCougar

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    For me it's the spaceships. Yeah I know.
     
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  12. ZooCougar

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    And blasters. Blasters are cool.
     
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  13. huskypantz

    huskypantz UConn - We Recycle

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    Just finished reading Catalyst. I enjoyed it and it really adds more context to R1. I still prefer seeing R1 before reading the book, but it helps explain why Lyra acted the way she did and gives you insight into the Tarkin/Krennic relationship. Off to read Tarkin next.
     
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  14. FeedTheDove

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    Plan to read that one soon as well!
     
  15. junglehusky

    junglehusky Molotov Cocktail of Ugliness

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    In one of the reports leading up to R1 I think Kathleen Kennedy said the standalones would be about non-Skywalker bloodline stories in the SW universe. So ... no Vader, because he is a Skywalker.

    OK, so I watched R1 for the second time this weekend. I picked up a few notes I kind of missed...

    It's been >3 weeks, so we can stop using spoiler tags right? Anwyay - SPOILER WARNING-

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    The first time I watched I totally missed the argument for why to go to Eadu. Or, it went in one ear and out the other. Jyn needed to provide confirmation of the information from Galen to the alliance because nobody had seen the hologram except her and Saw, and I think I had been distracted by other stuff the first time I watched.

    One thing that still doesn't make sense is why Saw was just like "cool, you guys get off planet and I'll just hang back and die". For no reason. C'mon, make him war weary, or give him some noble suicide mission, or have that outpost on Jeddha be his childhood home he refuses to leave like a cantankerous old curmudgeon townie when the big hurricane is bearing down. Or at least give him a ship to jump onto that gets hit by a giant boulder or something.

    The other thing that I didn't connect was that Tarkin is explicitly told that Krennic is at the base in Scarif, and then later destroys the base, in the process killing his rival. This could have been played up a little in the script. Let Tarkin have information of what the rebels are trying to accomplish, which is tied to the shield going down so they can get the signal transmitted (by the way... the shield blocks data transmissions from a big, presumably high powered radio dish on top of a tower, but audio goes through the shield with no problem? There was some radio communication between the Alliance ships and troops on the ground... right?). Once the shield goes down, Tarkin has cover to act. Destroying an Imperial facility should have been presented as a last resort, but still logical course of action for Tarkin. Have his subordinates object "but there are thousands of our troops at the base! and Director Krennic is on the platform!" and then Tarkin has a bad-ass quip about the rebellion being stopped at all costs or something.

    On second thought... at this point Tarkin does not know that the rebels are in possession of the plans, or does he? Maybe he suspects it. And I might have to watch a third time - he knows the rebels want the plans, but does either he or Krennic know that Galen baked in the vulnerability? All they know about is the pilot and Galen. Hmmm... In any case, we could have used a more dramatic moment for this decision. Maybe in between R1 and Ep IV Tarkin gets is ass chewed out for blowing up Scarif, the way the Captain in 80's cop movies chews out the renegade cop....

    And on other note. I didn't think CGI Tarkin was quite right in 3D. When I watched again I went to a 2D show and hoped it wouldn't be as bad... but it was still kind of in the uncanny valley. His cheeks were cartoonishly hollowed out and it made me feel like I was seeing a character from SW Rebels with slightly higher resolution texturing. Well, maybe not quite that bad, but it didn't quite ring correct. Almost there. I did have a much bigger lump in my throat when CGI Carrie Fisher was onscreen after her passing.

    Oh and Vader's castle... the interior was fine, but could they not have ripped off LOTR on the exterior? LOL...
     
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  16. traitor71

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    Marvel has produced an excellent (ultra rare for their print material these days) comic series that follows that very story. My kids kept telling me how good it is so I read it myself and enjoyed it very much.
     
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  17. ZooCougar

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    Yeah, I read the first few issues last year. Really good story. Vader has two homicidal droid helpers and an assistant.
     
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  18. intlzncster

    intlzncster i fart in your general direction

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    Who answers letters and gets him coffee?
     
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  19. CL82

    CL82 It's going to be ok - calm down and enjoy the ride

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    That would be a tough position to fill. I mean who else is that cold and ruthless?

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  20. ZooCougar

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    Espresso machine built into his carapace.
     
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