VAMike23
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Wow there's a lot of paranoid people out there.
I was reading your post, and the 2 words, "stealing signals." caught my eye. This does go on in all sports, but the best I've heard is about the 1951 NY Giants baseball team, and Bobby Thompson's dramatic home run. I was listening to Vin Scully do a Dodger game a few years ago, and he mentioned this book: THE ECHOING GREEN, by Joshua Prager. If you like baseball, especially during the 1950's, you will love this book! The main point is that the Giants were stealing signs from visiting teams in the Polo Grounds. They had a large telescope set up in their center field clubhouse area.Just more slander from the NFL's unofficial mouthpiece, ESPN. Anonymous sources making unsubstantiated allegations with zero evidence. In other words, an NFL PR hit piece, implying for the umpteenth time that the Patriots stole signals against league rules when the fact is that stealing signals is not now and has never been illegal.
There's actually very little new here, although I admit I couldn't get to the end... I was afraid I might throw up in my morning cereal. Goodell once again has shown himself to be like a petulant child who just got caught taking cookies from the cookie jar before dinner and to get back at mom has taken his best crayons to the dining room wall.
Just more slander from the NFL's unofficial mouthpiece, ESPN. Anonymous sources making unsubstantiated allegations with zero evidence. In other words, an NFL PR hit piece, implying for the umpteenth time that the Patriots stole signals against league rules when the fact is that stealing signals is not now and has never been illegal.
There's actually very little new here, although I admit I couldn't get to the end... I was afraid I might throw up in my morning cereal. Goodell once again has shown himself to be like a petulant child who just got caught taking cookies from the cookie jar before dinner and to get back at mom has taken his best crayons to the dining room wall.
Well said. BTW I love your avatar!
Just more slander from the NFL's unofficial mouthpiece, ESPN. Anonymous sources making unsubstantiated allegations with zero evidence. In other words, an NFL PR hit piece, implying for the umpteenth time that the Patriots stole signals against league rules when the fact is that stealing signals is not now and has never been illegal.
There's actually very little new here, although I admit I couldn't get to the end... I was afraid I might throw up in my morning cereal. Goodell once again has shown himself to be like a petulant child who just got caught taking cookies from the cookie jar before dinner and to get back at mom has taken his best crayons to the dining room wall.
But football defensive play calling signs are given out in the open, not requiring a telescope - as Belichick said, "In front of us and 80,000 people."I was reading your post, and the 2 words, "stealing signals." caught my eye. This does go on in all sports, but the best I've heard is about the 1951 NY Giants baseball team, and Bobby Thompson's dramatic home run. I was listening to Vin Scully do a Dodger game a few years ago, and he mentioned this book: THE ECHOING GREEN, by Joshua Prager. If you like baseball, especially during the 1950's, you will love this book! The main point is that the Giants were stealing signs from visiting teams in the Polo Grounds. They had a large telescope set up in their center field clubhouse area.
I was reading your post, and the 2 words, "stealing signals." caught my eye. This does go on in all sports, but the best I've heard is about the 1951 NY Giants baseball team, and Bobby Thompson's dramatic home run. I was listening to Vin Scully do a Dodger game a few years ago, and he mentioned this book: THE ECHOING GREEN, by Joshua Prager. If you like baseball, especially during the 1950's, you will love this book! The main point is that the Giants were stealing signs from visiting teams in the Polo Grounds. They had a large telescope set up in their center field clubhouse area.
Cuteness overload right there!Isn't she a charmer! Not our cat though. When the wife and I lived in the Seattle area for a few years we were scanning the internet for local shelters and came across her (Sabrina), but by the time we could get a hold of the shelter she had already been adopted.
These are our guys now that our son is in Chicago (go Cubs).
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I love this NFL office - lies upon lies - Goodell ' We had absolutely nothing to do with those two employees being suspended', but in the NFL penalty to the Patriots that came out a few days after they were suspended, it specifically required league permission for them to be reinstated, and restricted their employment to areas away from ball preparation. Somehow that just doesn't make sense, Roger, except in the very literal sense that of course the league couldn't suspend people it doesn't employ! Of course it was the Patriots who suspended them, but it was the league who told the Patriots when and how they could be re-employed.
And I can't get over the repeated use of the texted 'Deflator' nickname used once in May 2014 during the off-season to refer to himself - a full 6 months before a game in which the game balls were found to be over-inflated to around 16 PSI by the refs. ESPN - fair and balanced.
FYI - I think the NFL caving on their reinstatement is the clearest proof that they had absolutely nothing. If they didn't cave, one or both would have sued and the discovery in that lawsuit would have included lots of internal communications from the league office as well as the full extent of the investigative notes from Wells ' 'independent' (thanks judge) investigation.
Unfortunately, I think Goodell could use the defense of being 'stupid' in such a proceeding.Almost certainly not going to happen, but one of the reasons I would love to see Brady sue for defamation is what might turn up during discovery. While the bar for proving defamation is higher for "public figures" (I assume Brady would be considered as such) in that a plaintiff must prove that statements were known to be false and made with malicious intent and that they caused harm, given what we already know I think there's a decent chance that the discovery process would reveal some smoking guns. I would expect that all NFL documents pertaining to Deflategate would be subpoenaed, including all external communications with Wells, other teams, etc. I'd be quite surprised if there weren't at least a couple that acknowledged the NFL had nothing, but chose to proceed anyway. Would it be enough to show malice and would Brady be able to show harm? No idea, but it would be interesting.
https://www.google.com.gt/search?q=...l2.7817j0j4&sourceid=chrome&es_sm=93&ie=UTF-8Isn't she a charmer! Not our cat though. When the wife and I lived in the Seattle area for a few years we were scanning the internet for local shelters and came across her (Sabrina), but by the time we could get a hold of the shelter she had already been adopted.
These are our guys now that our son is in Chicago (go Cubs).
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