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Kemba has a 0.0152 percent chance hey he has a chance
Wow, Richard Hamilton at 236 on the list. Thought he might have gotten more respect than that.
NBA & ABA Leaders and Records for Hall of Fame Probability | Basketball-Reference.com
Kemba has a 0.0152 percent chance hey he has a chance
In your exuberance to keep a false narrative alive you forgot your closing quotation mark. A pity. Maybe when you quadruple down (Peter Pan, Danny Granger, Batum) next time, you'll break the internet.
A few pages ago, someone well-meaning asked, "Are people really thinking that Kemba's going into the HoF?" The answer then, as now, was, "No," but the suggestion was floated not to bet against it.
You've been feeding and watering the notion that the OP then or throughout this thread overreached on the matter. We get it. You can't read. Otherwise, you've got a winner.
There's little chance of this.
If we were talking Cooperstown or Canton, there would be no chance. Speculating about the next 7 years of Kemba Walker's NBA career is not worth much. But I suppose if you are a fanboy ... you do that. And I LOVE Kemba.
IIRC, Mo Cheeks was the career leader in assists at one point.
Walker would have to go on a Steve-Nash-ian run. I don't see it.
And forget Kemba's college career. It plays exactly zero part in HoF consideration.
That is absolutely wrong. Its the Basketball Hall of Fame, not the NBA Hall of Fame. College and international achievments absolutely do count.
By that logic, Kevin Garnett is not making the HoF (he will) because he had no college career and Christian Laettner should be in the HoF on his own merits (like ever other member of the Dream Team, including the coach, 2 assistants and whatever HoF in which trainers are honored.), because he was arguably the best and most clutch college player ever. How about Len Bias?
Most HoF had outstanding college careers (as I said in a previous post). They distinquish themselves as professionals in the most competitive and prestigious league in the world (also in that post).
Some guys like Garnett have fantastic pro careers and that alone is enough to get them in. Other guys like Bill Walton are in due to a mix of College and pro achievments, in his case it was mostly his college stuff. If you read his write up from the HOF, about 2/3 of it talks about his college career.
Things like MOP of the Final 4 absolutely do count in terms of Final 4 consideration. In Kemba's case, he needs a bunch more years of all star level play to get in, but it is cettainly possible.
That is absolutely wrong. Its the Basketball Hall of Fame, not the NBA Hall of Fame. College and international achievments absolutely do count.
Comparing Kemba Walker to Bill Walton is not going to work out well for your argument.
Bottom line is that Walker needs to become, if not surpass, the second coming of Steve Nash (again, from a prior post.).
Short of that, I don't see it.
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But we’re addressing the idea that you’re saying college achievements mean nothing.
That’s just not true.
A decent comp could be Danny Manning, who had a decent, not spectacular (for a #1 overall with his college credentials, maybe slightly disappointing) NBA career.
Must have missed when Manning was inducted into the Hall of Fame...Nope. I didn't.
What you are missing is that Kemba is still in his 20's and has many productive years ahead of him, and already has a slew of significant accomplishments. I am not saying he is a likely hall of famer, but he certainly has a legitimate shot if he plays at his current level for another 7 or 8 years.
...I certainly wouldnt bet against him.
I haven't missed anything. I've addressed every one of your points, even when you attempt to move the goal posts.
Saying that you wouldn't bet against Walker being inducted into the Hall of Fame pretty much directly contradicts "not saying he is a likely hall of famer." Which is it? Also 7-8 years of current performance likely wouldn't cut it either. Steve Nash won his MVPs at 31 and 32 and then played nine more seasons after that.
As much fun as March/April 2011 was, I would absolutely bet against his induction into The Naismith Hall. It's a bet not worth making though.
Must have missed when Manning was inducted into the Hall of Fame...Nope. I didn't.
Another 7-8 years of all star caliber performance and he absolutely gets in. He doesn't have enough credentials to get in YET, but by the end of his career he certainly could. And I certainly wouldnt bet against him, especially given all the productive years still ahead of him.
From the beginning I used the word "could" not "will". Kemba has a long way to go, but if he keeps playing like he has his past 2 seasons, he will certainly be a candidate that will be worthy of consideration. I don't see why this is so difficult to comprehend.
And the comparison to Danny Granger is baffling. Granger was an all star once in his career, while Kemba has been an all star the past two years
Must be very baffling to you that Kobe Bryant (18-time All Star) is compared to Michael Jordan (14-time All Star).
What you are missing is that Kemba is still in his 20's and has many productive years ahead of him, and already has a slew of significant accomplishments. I am not saying he is a likely hall of famer, but he certainly has a legitimate shot if he plays at his current level for another 7 or 8 years.
Danny Granger didnt win a National Championship in college and was not the Most Outstanding Player of the Final 4. He also does not hold any NBA team records like Kemba does as the all time scoring leader for the Hornets (with half a career to go).
Granger only made one All Star team in his whole career. Kemba should have many by the time he retires. Poor comparison.
Absolutely LOVE how much being the all time leading scorer for the Hornets means to you. When Alonzo Mourning gave his HOF speech I missed the part about how being the Hornets all time leader in blocked shots was the greatest achievement of his career.
Okafor is there all time leading rebounder = HOF
Dell Curry is there all time leader in FGs = HOF
Mugsy Bogues all time leader in assists = HOF
The point is that at the age of 28 he has already compiled some very significant statistics, and he still has half his career to go. His last 2 seasons have been his best statistically. Another 7 or 8 seasons like the last 2 and he will have well over 20,000 points in the NBA. Its not like he is some scrub, he hit 10 3's in a game this past season.
I think he is a hall of fame caliber player who needs to produce a while longer to get there. I guess we agree to disagree.