It's Time To Scrutinize The Big 12 (J. Jacobs)

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  1. huskymedic

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  2. whaler11

    whaler11 Kickoff: 11:11

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    That's a lot of words to essentially say nothing.
     
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  3. huskymedic

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    But it's time.
     
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  4. Butch

    Butch 27 national titles.

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    Jacobs could have been doing this after UL, Pitt, etc, were chosen over us.

    Thanks for waiting some years, Jeff.
     
  5. Marty Jackson

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    Actually a very good write-up. Sadly, it is about 5 years late.
     
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  6. TRest

    TRest Horrible

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    I just read it now. "Boy this sucks for UConn. Somebody should do something."
     
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  7. Chin Diesel

    Chin Diesel Power of Love

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    Because going behind the back of the girl who doesn't want you, poking for skeletons in her closet and generally acting creepy always leads to having a better reputation and more positive relationships going forward. SMH.
     
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  8. Marty Jackson

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    That's a great Roosevelt quote... have you read it?
     
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  9. Chin Diesel

    Chin Diesel Power of Love

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    Yes???

    “It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat.”
    -Theodore Roosevelt


    PS- Except on the Boneyard
     
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  10. Marty Jackson

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    wasn't a trick question... not sure how to reconcile your quote with what you think Uconn should do going forward.
    do you disagree that Uconn will need to challenge ESPN and the P5 structure? possibly take a lead in that movement?
     
  11. Chin Diesel

    Chin Diesel Power of Love

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    I'd say once the battle (trying to get in to the B12) is over, you shake hands and move on. Trying to publicly harass the suitor that left you (or never accepted your advances) is a loser mentality.

    Move on to the next fight for inclusion in to the P5. I actually think UConn came out better than any other AAC school being that UConn did their lobbying behind the scenes and had a top notch presentation. Plus, it appears the hired consultants had UConn ranked favorably too.
     
  12. CL82

    CL82 It's going to be ok - calm down and enjoy the ride

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    Jacobs to Big 12 and ESPN:
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    Big 12 and ESPN to Jacobs:
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  13. upstater

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    Big 12 stands pat, but will see new money

    ESPN paid the B12 NOT to take UConn.

    Tweets are saying ESPN paid $10m a year, or $1m per B12 school. The pro-rata clause I believe was for $20m for each school split between Fox and ESPN. So ESPN saved $10m by doing this, per year.

    However, Fox gave no money. It is still on the hook for the pro-rata clause if they ever expanded.
     
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  14. CL82

    CL82 It's going to be ok - calm down and enjoy the ride

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    Saddle up boys, we're headed to Bristol...
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    because Jeff has not thought much about nor written much about CR and how UConn does or does not fit in, he is still in the reactionary/emotional phase.... The only way to get into the P4 club is to keep on showing people on and off the field that UConn makes 100% sense to be included. Gotta start winning 60% of football games over a three year period, fill the stadium, and keep on doing/improving everything else that the university is currently doing.
     
  16. SubbaBub

    SubbaBub Your stupidity is ruining my country.

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    UConn needs to do whatever it can to make up the revenue difference. It that means diverting ESPN's tax credits to support the University then it should be considered.

    If that means distributing it's media rights on its own, then consider it.

    If there is a winnable tort case against any number of entities, that would result in a desirable outcome in ethier cash, standing or access, then consider that.
     
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  17. upstater

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    It's not going to happen. We're living in an era when fans aren't going to these stadiums of mediocre teams. Look around, attendance is terrible even in the P5.
     
  18. ConnHuskBask

    ConnHuskBask Shut Em Down!

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    So for $10M more a year, ESPN could have just pushed for UConn as team 11?

    Instead they are paying $10M for the same exact thing as before?

    Can't blame ESPN for acting in their own self interest's but just as the Big12 didn't expand due to damaging long term relationships with current and future partners, the state of CT should take notice here as well.
     
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  19. CL82

    CL82 It's going to be ok - calm down and enjoy the ride

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    How exactly would this work? The state would take the tax money that ESPN didn't pay us, and use it to fund football? Oh wait we don't have it....

    Nor could we cancel the ESPN tax credit. I feel certain that there was no congency in there for screwing over state-U.

    The tax credit is a done deal, it can't be changed, but that doesn't mean that we forget that ESPN has, time and time again looked after it's interest to detriment of UConn. So after the state gave ESPN $200 million of tax relief ESPN came back to, in effect, take $100s of millions more from state taxpayers by funding the destruction of the Big East (in three stages) and then paying Big 12 not expand. In anyone of those four instances ESPN could have stated a preference for UConn as a prerequisite to opening their checkbook. They did not. Likewise, they could have made UConn a precondition to the ACC network, they did not.

    That's five times they screwed us over. That needs to be remembered the next time they ask for anything.

    The answer is no.
     
  20. ZooCougar

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    Our beef lies with ESPN and the market forces that convinced the Big 12 to stand pat. Going after the Big 12 would be self sabotage.
     
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    He's not wrong about going after ESPN/Disney. Time for the state to quit playing footsie with Iger, Skipper, etc.
     
  22. John Greene

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    I have a great idea! Lets get the AG to file some lawsuits against some BIG 12 presidents, their commissioner and ESPN. I'm sure that will work in UConn's favor in the future.
     
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  23. upstater

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    Next time?
     
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    huskypantz UConn - We Recycle

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    I must be missing something here...but I don't quite understand why some posters find negativity in whatever Jeff Jacobs writes. You may not agree with his approach but he remains one of the few voices looking out for Uconn's interests ( whether or not he's late in doing so). That's more than can be said for our CT corporations ( including the losers at ESPN) our politicians and many of our fans who"d rather just sit on their hands and bitch. No one is doubting that the game, for now, is over, but Jacobs sounds as pissed and frustrated as the many of us. The difference is he has a "pulpit " he can use to let it be known and he hasn't hesititated in expressing his feelings. Personally, I see no problem in banging on every door, now and in the future, and until somebody comes up with something better to advance our cause, I applaud those who do!
     
  26. The Viking

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    How long do these ESPN tax credits last? Does anyone have a year of expiration?
     
  27. whaler11

    whaler11 Kickoff: 11:11

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    Um maybe it's because he's 5 years late and has not even a single suggestion worth considering in his article?

    If anyone at the Courant had a clue they would have been on this stuff for a decade because it impacts how many people want to read them.

    Instead they gave us Dez Conner for a football beat writer. Then they write CR articles that are about 3-4 weeks stale and contain less insight than the non-key tweet thread.

    Their coverage and their efforts have been completely useless. If they gave a damn about covering the team we wouldn't have had race car Shawn followed by a guy who loves Pasqualoni and was more interested in tweeting about sham preachers than the football team.
     
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    whaler11 Kickoff: 11:11

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    Gee here is an idea: I bet a writer from the Hartford Courant can access lawyers within their huge company or find a lawyer who likes to talk to reporters.

    MAYBE FIND AN ANTITRUST LAWYER AND SPEND 4 HOURS WITH THEM FINDING OUT IF THERE IS ANY BASIS FOR LAWSUITS?!?!

    Maybe that would interest your readership? Maybe someone would want to read that over the recycled garbage they print on a daily basis?

    I mean Jacobs did promise to hammer on this issue this year - wow he's been just fantastic. And their Big 12 coverage was stellar - they really had the pulse - I mean the AD was telling random people it was dead but they couldn't get a word on it.
     
  29. Chin Diesel

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    Because he's not a random fan venting on a message board.

    For the same reason us fans were considering sports writers from B12 to have key tweets the rest of the country sees his opinion as the voice of the UConn program. Especially since there isn't any other writer willing to take a contrary position

    In the rest of the college football world it's assumed that a writer from the state paper doesn't write this article without UConn administration support.
     
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  30. Butch

    Butch 27 national titles.

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    Jacobs was decent when he covered the Whalers. That was about it.