Let's be honest if your a G5 school your future is at best sketchy.Houston is keeping their options open by not just focusing on the Big12.
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Gotta save face somehow.
That kinda like really choosing to eat at Denny's rather than ending up there because it's the only place open."The two other options mentioned by The Houston Chronicle include sticking with the American Athletic Conference and continuing to be a power player in what could be the top non-power conference"
Wow, that's genius!
I forget where I saw this -- probably this thread, to be honest -- but SEC got better ratings in Houston than the Big 12 did last year, obviously because of A&M. Given that and Baylor's plummeting value, I could see a way Baylor gets kicked out and Houston is invited as their replacement, while 2 or 4 other schools are added in expansion.Houston has 2 options:
1. remain in the AAC / G5;
2. use one of their lobbyist slimeball boosters and Texas politics to strong-arm their way into the B12 as a short-term fix (then OU leaves shortly after to lead to the destruction of the conference, ironically)
That's it.
Houston has 2 options:
1. remain in the AAC / G5;
2. use one of their lobbyist slimeball boosters and Texas politics to strong-arm their way into the B12 as a short-term fix (then OU leaves shortly after to lead to the destruction of the conference, ironically)
That's it.
I forget where I saw this -- probably this thread, to be honest -- but SEC got better ratings in Houston than the Big 12 did last year, obviously because of A&M. Given that and Baylor's plummeting value, I could see a way Baylor gets kicked out and Houston is invited as their replacement, while 2 or 4 other schools are added in expansion.
Things are getting really bad (deservedly so) for Baylor:
What’s next for Baylor? More lawsuits, investigations and penalties, experts say
Houston, meanwhile, is a bigger school in a bigger market that suddenly needs shoring up.
It's not that they would leave, it's that they would/could be forced out.That will never happen. Baylor will only leave the B12 if the entire conference implodes and the members all get picked up by other conferences.
Open invite to AAC!Oklahoma doesn't need a link to Texas to be relevant. OU was never in a conference with any Texas school until the Big 12 formed in 1996.
OU could go to any conference it wants if OU decides to leave the Big 12.
IDK man Tulsa gotta protect their turfOpen invite to AAC!
Oklahoma doesn't need a link to Texas to be relevant. OU was never in a conference with any Texas school until the Big 12 formed in 1996.
OU could go to any conference it wants if OU decides to leave the Big 12.
Houston has 2 options:
1. remain in the AAC / G5;
2. use one of their lobbyist slimeball boosters and Texas politics to strong-arm their way into the B12 as a short-term fix (then OU leaves shortly after to lead to the destruction of the conference, ironically)
That's it.
It certainly fits the current ACC model of taking city-based institutions that have nothing in common with its traditional core schools.Houston would be a good add for the ACC. At least market-wise.
Baylor's real problem is that they're not North Carolina. If it was in Baylor's situation, UNC would face zero sanctions.I forget where I saw this -- probably this thread, to be honest -- but SEC got better ratings in Houston than the Big 12 did last year, obviously because of A&M. Given that and Baylor's plummeting value, I could see a way Baylor gets kicked out and Houston is invited as their replacement, while 2 or 4 other schools are added in expansion.
Things are getting really bad (deservedly so) for Baylor:
What’s next for Baylor? More lawsuits, investigations and penalties, experts say
Houston, meanwhile, is a bigger school in a bigger market that suddenly needs shoring up.
Oklahoma has always had a connection with Texas.
Texas and Oklahoma have met 110 times on the field.
Without the Texas connection, Oklahoma would become another Arkansas or Nebraska.
I'm sorry but I don't buy your argument. OU and UT were in separate conferences for a lifetime before the formation of The Big 12. Over that time period OU not UT was the superior program. Their connection to Texas does not end because they leave The Big 12. Unlike Nebrsaka their connection to the state will remain because of their proximity to it. They don't need to play Baylor or Tech to get kids interested in playing in Norman. Geography dictates that they are in the market.
One can argue that with the loss of UT's two other historical rivals A & M and AK that maintaining a date with the Sooners is as important or even more important to The Horns. If Texas handles things poorly they could end up watching OU play neutral site games against LSU, A&M, or other name programs within Texas every year as opposed to playing the Red River. The idea that OU would become another Arkansas because they were playing in The B1G or SEC is comical at best.
You have it wrong.
Oklahoma initially supported the idea of having Houston in the Big 12. Then OU publicly supported Cincinnati.
Then the OU president said he got ahead of himself after he started all the chit and he makes a statement that OU is committed to the Big 12 (it seems we've heard that before like when OU tried to get into the Pac 12 without Texas, only to be turned away in the end).
And now we have the lunacy coming from Memphis and Houston on why they should be included. Both schools have billionaire supporters. The stupidity, the insufferable arrogance and the sense of entitlement coming from UH fans is beyond belief.
And Colorado State sending brochures to the Big 12: Colorado State's pitch to the Big 12 looks like this 12-page brochure - SBNation.com
The Orlando Sentinel started a video message directed to the Big 12 asking for the conference to consider UCF. Then this happened:
UCF president speaks with Channel 9 about interest in joining Big 12 Conference | WFTV
And before any of this, BYU's Bronco Mendenhall made his public plea for Big 12 membership. Now Bronco coaches at Virginia because he said independence for BYU is not sustainable.
As for Houston, there is absolutely nothing the Texas politicians can do to get the school in the Big 12. Nor should they want to. UH has no clout.
My post was essentially poking fun at the UH fans that I've come across that usually cite to me that I do not understand "Texas politics". I understand one thing: having too many schools in the same state is what has led to the conference problem in the first place. Of course, you Texas supporters don't have to worry about your permanent fixture in a power conference. But the rest of the Texas-based schools do and adding another small fish to feed will only make the problem worse. That's my opinion, anyway.
As for OU, you are right - I do not know the complete history of B12 expansion and who has supported who in the past. I'm just going by what President Boren has said most recently: they want to expand the footprint of the conference so that they can develop a conference network. Adding UH does nothing to move those goals along and, from that standpoint alone, I've got to think that a UH addition will not be to OU's liking (without adding better candidates like UConn, BYU, etc that would add strength to a B12N).
Why is it necessary for me to have to prove you wrong?
Here is the record for the Texas vs Oklahoma games in the 110 times they played each other:
Winsipedia - Texas Longhorns vs. Oklahoma Sooners football series history
Red River Showdown - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
So based on the information provided in the links above, you want to claim Oklahoma was the superior program? Wrong!
Oklahoma couldn't even get into the Pac 12 when it attempted to go there without Texas.
Yes, the SEC gave OU an invitation once just like it gave Texas an invitation once. OU's invitation ended up at Missouri. The SEC has no need for Oklahoma State and that is unfortunate for OU.
If OU decides to leave (without Oklahoma State in toll), what makes you think Texas would remain in the conference? Texas is already on record for saying that if it had to give up the LHN, it would be to change conferences.
Oklahoma in any conference (other than the Big 12) would be just another school. It wouldn't be getting top billing like it enjoys now.
You definitely have more all time wins in the series. I don't recall disputing that. I still think that OU is the overall superior program. Higher win percentage, more titles, bowl wins, All Americans, Heisman Winners etc. I certainly didn't claim that OU was a more attractive program in realignment than UT, or that they would have the same options as Texas on the open market.
Why would I, or OU care what Texas decided to do should The Sooners leave The Big 12? They'll already be in a far more lucrative and stable situation then they currently find themselves in now. As far as being just another school, OU would have a chance to write that narrative on the field. They would be among the favorites in either a B1G or SEC West every year. Win enough of the big games on the schedule and they quickly become more than just another team.