Who said anything about parades? Don't mistake your personal disinterest with irrelevance. If you polled college football fans on the Rose Bowl you and CTMike would be in the VAST minority. That's all I'm saying. I'm not trying to convince you guys to like the game.
I respect you back, paisano mio! I know a lot of people love the Rose Bowl, but it's just not for me. Give me a Big East Champ versus an ACC Champ any day of the week...
That totally cracked me up (I'm Italian too)... let's settle this over Pepe's... no wait Sally's.... no wait Modern... haha.
My hunch... is that this would likely be split along age lines. (No offense, Jimmy... I don't think you are THAT old. haha)
My fingers aren't really comprehending what they are about to type, but... that link makes a lot of sense, Carl.
Remember - there are 12 people that will vote on all of this summer. The public is watching, and they want a playoff that determines a true champion. THe seeding system needs to be valid, and transparent, and reproducible, so that the top 4 teams in the country are the top four teams. Strength of schedule matters. Conference champions matter. The old guard will twist and spew but it means nothing. Sagarin, Wolfe, Massey, Colley, Billingsley, Anderson & Hester. Learn these names. Figure out who they are. THese are the names that will be the most important when it comes to the college football playoff, and they can't doing business as usual. The big east will be among those votes to be counted.
I stopped reading at DeLoss Dodds. Because Carl told us to only read quotes from school presidents and conference commissioners. All kidding aside, I've been advocating for a selection committee similar to what hoops has. I differ from Dodds in that I think the semi-final games should be on campus with the NCG at a neutral site (one of the existing bowls).
stop being a tool. I'm telling you all not to pay attention to any garbage out there about the inner workings of the big east. Holy mackerel, the big east has been victim to the inability to maintain a chain of command and the information networks out there pecking at it for too long. let them feast on the other conferences out there for a while, as we get our squared away, and let the media peck and the ones that have actually caused all this mess of realignment. TIme will tell, and it will only be a few short months to know if I'm right or wrong, but I'm convinced that the BCS and conference leadership involved, has no idea what kind of tactics are coming there way. The big east is the largest conference in the country, and has been, for several years now. I've said all along, that a big east, with proper priorities and leadership, is exactly where I want to be. We'll see. Now stop with the garbage, and pay attention to what's happening.
There is no valid reason for the bowl system to continue. I can only assume that any athletic director supporting the bowl system is receiving some kind of kickback, because the bowls are horrendous money losers for the schools.
Wrong, there's a huge reason for an invitation bowl system to co-exist with a playoff, and it's to ensure that every regular season game DOES maintain value. THese clowns are going to argue til their blue in the face that a playoff will DE-value a regular season, and they'd be right, if the invitation bowl season goes away, because what does a 5-5 team have to look forward to in November with no bowls, and no shot at a conference title or a playoff. What needs to happen is that the corruption around the college football post season needs to get cleaned up, and the invitation bowls will actually have to pick games that will do well for the bowls, rather than sit on the guaranteed ticket sales rape of athletic departments money and take your cut and then redistribute model. My ideal is that in the not too distant future, you still have some 30 or so post season games to reward those teams that have done well, with about half being invitation bowls, adn the other half, being the first round of a playoff for a national championship. Baby steps though, but that first giant step was taken. And if my info is correct, which isn't anything you can't find online, is that Marinatto was in the trenches with Slive during those meetings, in which those commissioners came out with that incredibly monumental decision to go to a college playoff in the post season. Those 12 guys divided up in pairs of two for pow-wows in those meetings, and Marinatto went into the room with Slive, and came out with Slive talking playoff.
I don't agree with that statement, Carl. The bowl system doesn't really maintain value. You have brought up the example of a 5-5 team in November. What about the teams in November that are 3-7? How about if they are 6-4 and already "bowl eligible"? Do they all just put it in the tank? No, of course not. They are playing for pride, they are playing for starting positions for next year, and they most certainly are playing to beat in-conference rivals that they surely hate. What I would love to see is a similar system to FCS, where a true champion is chosen. At every level in every other collegiate sport, a true champion is chosen. The 4-team playoff is only a baby step away from the old-boys network, and in fact, it is still being shaped by the old-boys network...
If Marinatto & Slive went into a room together, the only thing I would expect Slive to come out of that meeting with is Marinatto's lunch.
Dan - they're going to try to do that, but they won't be able to. The wheels are in motion, they won't be able to stop it. The invitation bowl system, most certainly ahs a ton of value. THe way to make Delaney shut up is to propose that the Rose Bowl be designated as the annual site of the national championship game for the duration of whatever playoff system contract for broadcasting is designed. THe key - is those six names I put up before. A ranking system needs to be set up, using the power of computers, such that the top 4 teams are the top 4 teams, and everybody knows how it was determined, and agrees that the way it was determined is valid. Any human interaction in this ranking system is a big problem. I'm not sure it will be able to be kept out, as the human polls sell tons of papers and magazines, but the accuracy and precision of those rankings, is essential. I"m willing to bet that the majority of voters in the room come summertime when ti comes to these discussions, are going to agree with that.
But THAT is the fallacy of the computers, Carl! The idea that they are somehow better than the human interaction. The secret is; THEY ARE the human interaction! They all require human inputs, where humans determine what a "quality win" is, or a "good loss", or a conference strength of schedule factor. If the computers were less fallible than humans, they should all give the same results. They in fact do not. The Sagarin is different than the Harris, which is different than....you get the point. I have seen 3-loss teams in the Sagarin rated more highly than undefeated teams in "lesser conferences". This is the ultimate problem; that the computers mirror the human prejudice...
